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	<title>Comments on: Has Angel Pagan Lost His Wings?</title>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well he was off to a hot start but has since slowed down obviously. I think What Wright needs is a day off. 

There was a chart I read somewhere that showed once he goes in slumps most of the time how he snaps out of them are a day or two off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he was off to a hot start but has since slowed down obviously. I think What Wright needs is a day off. </p>
<p>There was a chart I read somewhere that showed once he goes in slumps most of the time how he snaps out of them are a day or two off.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Clayton! When are you going to write a blog about how badly David Wright is. Again. And how he is again letting his team and fans down?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Clayton! When are you going to write a blog about how badly David Wright is. Again. And how he is again letting his team and fans down?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wright is batting .229 with 8 RBI, Pagan is worse, .167 with 6 RBI. But just what is your point &quot;metsfan&quot;? You honestly think Angel is as important to the Mets as David Wright? Ahhhh, then you&#039;d be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wright is batting .229 with 8 RBI, Pagan is worse, .167 with 6 RBI. But just what is your point &#8220;metsfan&#8221;? You honestly think Angel is as important to the Mets as David Wright? Ahhhh, then you&#8217;d be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/has-angel-pagan-lost-his-wings.html#comment-148906</link>
		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was supposed to say  :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was supposed to say  <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jessep!

And He did drop a bit in averag in the second half but according to his splits he was pretty consistant with his hits, RBIs, SBs and Runs throughout the year. 

On the otherhand, his walks, OBP and SLG numbers plummited in August and September, so you can make an argument either way regarding his consistantcy throught the year.

One thing I can&#039;t stand with a player in general is sloppy play in the field and on the basepaths. Pagan has been above average in the field but has had a few bad plays. As for the basepaths, Pagan looks to have completely reverted to his 2009 campaign. He needs a day or two off with Mookie and Hudgens in order to regain his 2010 form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jessep!</p>
<p>And He did drop a bit in averag in the second half but according to his splits he was pretty consistant with his hits, RBIs, SBs and Runs throughout the year. </p>
<p>On the otherhand, his walks, OBP and SLG numbers plummited in August and September, so you can make an argument either way regarding his consistantcy throught the year.</p>
<p>One thing I can&#8217;t stand with a player in general is sloppy play in the field and on the basepaths. Pagan has been above average in the field but has had a few bad plays. As for the basepaths, Pagan looks to have completely reverted to his 2009 campaign. He needs a day or two off with Mookie and Hudgens in order to regain his 2010 form.</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s blank but I assume it was &quot;oh it was hilarious&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s blank but I assume it was &#8220;oh it was hilarious&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coop did my Pagan comment on your &quot;wall&quot; at least give you a chuckle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coop did my Pagan comment on your &#8220;wall&#8221; at least give you a chuckle</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice job Clayton.

I&#039;ve never been a fan of Pagan&#039;s really. He&#039;s a fringe player who realistically played subpar baseball from August through the end of the season. His entire &quot;success&quot; from last year stemmed from April-July. 

I mean don&#039;t get me wrong, he was great during those months and I appreciate it... but an every day starting CF shouldn&#039;t be a minor leaguer for 2 months out of the year. 

If you look at Pagan objectively, you have a fringe OF who wouldn&#039;t start for most teams yet he&#039;s put on a pedestol because of the uniform he wears]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job Clayton.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been a fan of Pagan&#8217;s really. He&#8217;s a fringe player who realistically played subpar baseball from August through the end of the season. His entire &#8220;success&#8221; from last year stemmed from April-July. </p>
<p>I mean don&#8217;t get me wrong, he was great during those months and I appreciate it&#8230; but an every day starting CF shouldn&#8217;t be a minor leaguer for 2 months out of the year. </p>
<p>If you look at Pagan objectively, you have a fringe OF who wouldn&#8217;t start for most teams yet he&#8217;s put on a pedestol because of the uniform he wears</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, Pagan&#039;s type of play when he actually performs is suited perfectly for Citi Field. So it makes sense Alderson wanted him for 2011. It is possible we could see Beltran, Pagan, Reyes, Pelfrey and K-rod go before July 31st. The way things are going, it looks like cleaning house is the likely course of action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Pagan&#8217;s type of play when he actually performs is suited perfectly for Citi Field. So it makes sense Alderson wanted him for 2011. It is possible we could see Beltran, Pagan, Reyes, Pelfrey and K-rod go before July 31st. The way things are going, it looks like cleaning house is the likely course of action.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at it just defensively, Harris can cover some ground. Beltran isn&#039;t terrible now that he is atrating to catch up to the game. But you are correct, Pagan is the best defensive centerfield option. 

Even though selling high might have been a smart, safe way to go on Pagan, I can see why Alderson did not. 30-40 stolen bases, speed and a 290-300 avg makes sense for Citi Field. Unfortunately, Pagan has yet to show any glimmer of his 2009-2010 form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at it just defensively, Harris can cover some ground. Beltran isn&#8217;t terrible now that he is atrating to catch up to the game. But you are correct, Pagan is the best defensive centerfield option. </p>
<p>Even though selling high might have been a smart, safe way to go on Pagan, I can see why Alderson did not. 30-40 stolen bases, speed and a 290-300 avg makes sense for Citi Field. Unfortunately, Pagan has yet to show any glimmer of his 2009-2010 form.</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Humor goes a long way but it doesn&#039;t mask the ambiguity of a very close, partially obscured play.

I made my comment after you said, &quot;We all know he was safe last night....&quot;

Anywory, it&#039;s on to the next fray and I hope we get some of the close calls. We didn&#039;t on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humor goes a long way but it doesn&#8217;t mask the ambiguity of a very close, partially obscured play.</p>
<p>I made my comment after you said, &#8220;We all know he was safe last night&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anywory, it&#8217;s on to the next fray and I hope we get some of the close calls. We didn&#8217;t on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see that too, so Alderson IMO was stuck between a rock and a hard place.  OTOH, its evident that the Mets who play a majority of their games at CitiField need to have a masher.  Something that has been lacking for quite some time.  Angel Pagan or anyone on the team currently constructed isn&#039;t doing so...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that too, so Alderson IMO was stuck between a rock and a hard place.  OTOH, its evident that the Mets who play a majority of their games at CitiField need to have a masher.  Something that has been lacking for quite some time.  Angel Pagan or anyone on the team currently constructed isn&#8217;t doing so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too believe that Angel Pagan should have been traded in the offseason. Funny how those of us who thought that were all vilified in the offseason! I believe he had a career year and there&#039;s this great saying about &quot;selling high.&quot;  Unfortunately, I can see both sides of the argument for keeping him around, since Sandy Alderson really didn&#039;t have much in the way of value except for maybe David Wright, and he had to play with the hand he was given.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too believe that Angel Pagan should have been traded in the offseason. Funny how those of us who thought that were all vilified in the offseason! I believe he had a career year and there&#8217;s this great saying about &#8220;selling high.&#8221;  Unfortunately, I can see both sides of the argument for keeping him around, since Sandy Alderson really didn&#8217;t have much in the way of value except for maybe David Wright, and he had to play with the hand he was given.</p>
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		<title>By: Metlomaniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metlomaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reality is that Pagan is an average ballplayer.  Last year was a career year, yet what was his OPS, .750?  Not bad, but far from otherworldly.  His career minor league OPS was around .700, so that&#039;s probably his ceiling.  That&#039;s not good enough for an everyday OF, even if he were playing a good CF (where Pagan has been severely overrated).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that Pagan is an average ballplayer.  Last year was a career year, yet what was his OPS, .750?  Not bad, but far from otherworldly.  His career minor league OPS was around .700, so that&#8217;s probably his ceiling.  That&#8217;s not good enough for an everyday OF, even if he were playing a good CF (where Pagan has been severely overrated).</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Zanca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Zanca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean he was clearly out at home, or you think he&#039;s a genius on the basepaths?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean he was clearly out at home, or you think he&#8217;s a genius on the basepaths?</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clayton, way to get off our 2010 everyday MVP and 2009 co-MVP after 1/10th of the season.  Man can&#039;t anyone catch a break around here?

     Sure he&#039;s had a slow start so far but it&#039;s not related to having secured a full time job with his great play last year, getting a one year 3.5 M dollar deal or anything else other than just a bad start.

     He could be feeling the pressure of trying to get a guaranteed deal this coming off season, his last arbitration year, who knows.  He knows the team is in transition and he&#039;s thrived in that situation before.

     Until recently his OB was still .300 so he wasn&#039;t exactly bogging down the offense and clutch?  He&#039;s not really getting any hits now clutch or not why bring up that term?  You know how that goes, clutch one year, not clutch the next anyway.

     A set spot in the order would be nice.  He should be hitting higher against RHP.  I&#039;d like to see him hit 3rd in front of Davis and Beltran against RHP and get him in the thick of it.  No matter where he hits he&#039;ll come around but hitting him 6th is just wasting his ability there.

     the 90% of the time he takes the extra base he&#039;s a hustler, the 10% of the time he doesn&#039;t he&#039;s a bonehead.  I&#039;ll tell you you just can&#039;t win.  Angel has been one of the best base runners in the entire league for a couple of years now.  Trying to score with 2 outs on a wild pitch with our offense and our clutch hitting ability is exactly what he should have been trying to do.  The players playing hard, maybe pressing, but playing to win.  give him a break.

     On the other side of the ball who covers as much ground in the NL as Angel Pagan?  How would you like to see Harris or Hairston in Center?  Think Beltran can play there?  Bay?  Duda?  Murphy?  Has he even had a day off?  All players should enjoy a little competition on the roster, another option to go to here and there.  Who&#039;s Pagan&#039;s?

     While it may have sounded good to trade Angel he does have all the skills needed to be an all around player.  He&#039;s always in great shape, he always plays as hard as possible as just exactly WHO were we going to get to play CF here?

     Angel&#039;s arm, legs, glove and bat have kept us out of the cellar the last two years and they will again this year too, just relax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton, way to get off our 2010 everyday MVP and 2009 co-MVP after 1/10th of the season.  Man can&#8217;t anyone catch a break around here?</p>
<p>     Sure he&#8217;s had a slow start so far but it&#8217;s not related to having secured a full time job with his great play last year, getting a one year 3.5 M dollar deal or anything else other than just a bad start.</p>
<p>     He could be feeling the pressure of trying to get a guaranteed deal this coming off season, his last arbitration year, who knows.  He knows the team is in transition and he&#8217;s thrived in that situation before.</p>
<p>     Until recently his OB was still .300 so he wasn&#8217;t exactly bogging down the offense and clutch?  He&#8217;s not really getting any hits now clutch or not why bring up that term?  You know how that goes, clutch one year, not clutch the next anyway.</p>
<p>     A set spot in the order would be nice.  He should be hitting higher against RHP.  I&#8217;d like to see him hit 3rd in front of Davis and Beltran against RHP and get him in the thick of it.  No matter where he hits he&#8217;ll come around but hitting him 6th is just wasting his ability there.</p>
<p>     the 90% of the time he takes the extra base he&#8217;s a hustler, the 10% of the time he doesn&#8217;t he&#8217;s a bonehead.  I&#8217;ll tell you you just can&#8217;t win.  Angel has been one of the best base runners in the entire league for a couple of years now.  Trying to score with 2 outs on a wild pitch with our offense and our clutch hitting ability is exactly what he should have been trying to do.  The players playing hard, maybe pressing, but playing to win.  give him a break.</p>
<p>     On the other side of the ball who covers as much ground in the NL as Angel Pagan?  How would you like to see Harris or Hairston in Center?  Think Beltran can play there?  Bay?  Duda?  Murphy?  Has he even had a day off?  All players should enjoy a little competition on the roster, another option to go to here and there.  Who&#8217;s Pagan&#8217;s?</p>
<p>     While it may have sounded good to trade Angel he does have all the skills needed to be an all around player.  He&#8217;s always in great shape, he always plays as hard as possible as just exactly WHO were we going to get to play CF here?</p>
<p>     Angel&#8217;s arm, legs, glove and bat have kept us out of the cellar the last two years and they will again this year too, just relax.</p>
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		<title>By: metsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, the simple fact tnhat he has been the worst of the worst skips your words.  Its easier to just beat on Wright even tho he hasn&#039;t been nearly as bad as Angel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, the simple fact tnhat he has been the worst of the worst skips your words.  Its easier to just beat on Wright even tho he hasn&#8217;t been nearly as bad as Angel.</p>
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		<title>By: metsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you had a GM who wasn&#039;t out of touch, a GM that didn&#039;t need an entire year to evaluate his team, a GM that didn&#039;t think he was the only one capable opf making an evaluation, you  . would have had the opportunity to do what smart in touch GMs do and that is sell high and buy low.  Too late... The fluke that was Angel&#039;s 2010 is long gone....    Whatever, I&#039;m sure the assistants will tell the man that there are some more rule 5 guys they drafted a long time ago available to take his place next Winter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had a GM who wasn&#8217;t out of touch, a GM that didn&#8217;t need an entire year to evaluate his team, a GM that didn&#8217;t think he was the only one capable opf making an evaluation, you  . would have had the opportunity to do what smart in touch GMs do and that is sell high and buy low.  Too late&#8230; The fluke that was Angel&#8217;s 2010 is long gone&#8230;.    Whatever, I&#8217;m sure the assistants will tell the man that there are some more rule 5 guys they drafted a long time ago available to take his place next Winter.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Russell.  You must have watched a different game than I did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Russell.  You must have watched a different game than I did.</p>
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