And it is likely we will make SOME move at the deadline with a Veteran if the FO deems it neccesary to start that rebuilding proccess. Doesn’t matter which Veteran goes at this point, we could lose just one and we would still be losing a big part of our lineup that would not easily be replaced.

Beltran makes the most sense but his Bat is very important to guys like Wright, Bay and Davis. A switch hitting power hitter (like Beltran) is a very hard commodity to come by!

In fact all four are very important to the performance of each other.

If you trade Wright well you will probably be losing two big bats as Beltran will walk or not resign after the season. Result=Rebuild.

The reason why Wright isn’t discussed as much in regards to trades is because we are already scheduled to lose two core players at the end of the season.
And if the plan is to let them both go then what you propose should very much be considered.

Do you really build a team around Wright, Bay and Davis?

Davis I can understand but he too will be wasted in his prime as we try and find guys to play around him from the prospects we will get for making those trades. If your going to go that route then it makes a ton of sense to trade them all, be the pirates and wait until enough of those returned prospects pay off and get promoted before we go and look for some more big bats to go with them. And that will take 2-4 years which no Met fan will sit still through!

We should really cool to the idea of trades until we see where we are at the deadline.

If they start playing better the fast track way to go is to resign Reyes, trade Beltran for the prospects (I would look for promising SP in return) you can get and go after starting Pitching in the offseason. Let Davis be the clean up hitter and look for another OF in FA that can protect Bay in the lineup.

If we did that then Kirk, Havens, Mejia and Harvey could be promoted if worthy and we will have a pretty competitive team in a year!

But if we do have a firesale we are talking years of waiting for something good to result and the fans have shown no ability or inclination to wait that long.

They will go back to what they did when Omar took over and start demaning we give huge contracts to players who had a career year in their walk year and we will be right back where we started again.

Another FO change, A final appearance by Wally and a perpetuation of what has always been the story around here when impatience wins out over logic and reason.

Lots of promise, lots of moves but never enough to win anything!

If you hang onto a good player simply because you like him, and he’s your best player, then you’ll be watching him for 10 years play for a losing team.

Also, He is the face of the team… that amounts to so much more pressure than an everyday Joe. And you can not be serious with as many offensive tools around him as anybody? Exactly Who? The reason you see Bud Norris and Wandy Rodrigez mowing down hitters in this line up is because they fear absolutely no one! Guy jumps into an 0 for 20 slump and we automatically forget he hit over .280 with 30hr’s and over 100 rbi’s last season…Again with absolutely no protection. And these numbers are pretty on course with his seasons a few years back…I admit not as good but certainly not the “tailing off” that you are indicating.

And just curious… What type of return does a “good player” that is currently tailing off bring in return? Enough to really speed up an entire rebuilding process?

Thanks for the response!

I don’t see why Jose Reyes at 27, 28 years old would sign a short term deal. This is his big payday. In 2007, he accepted a hometown discount out of arbitration because he was on a team that he came up with and they were a few outs away from the World Series.

Fast forward 5 years, life is different for Reyes both on the field and at home. I am sure he enjoys New York, but there’s no reason for him to give a hometown discount to a team that is likely a non-factor for half the contract when he could sign somewhere else for more $ and more chances to win.

I understand that Wright & Reyes are beloved. However, fans like winning more…. and logically, keeping them both here as the Mets try to find their way in the future is not a smart baseball move. You cannot let the fans dictate how you handle your roster.

Wright & Reyes do not perform at a level that makes it acceptable to have them in the mid to late 30′s making 17-20 million dollars. Having them do-so hurts the future of this franchise.

Do you agree that if the Mets traded Wright they should be able to net some very good prospects?

If the idea is to shed the franchise of all of these contracts and to start over in the eye of Sandy (for better or worse he’s your teams GM) then you have to go all or nothing. You can’t half heartedly rebuild the franchise. And dealing Wright would make rebuilding the franchise in terms of talent, much easier.

The fans will be there when the games start being won.

This July he’ll have a year and a half left, just like Texeira did. While not exactly the same player as Tex he’s not that far away either. Texeira brought back Feliz, Saltamochia and Andrus. That’s a good haul especially when your giving away a guy you’ve already extracted 75% of his ML production from and can then use the money saved to beef up your team elsewhere (maybe in the Latin America or the draft) and add other pieces too.

I agree, we should listen but proceed carefully.

-Most “rebuilding phases” fail.

-Most prospects never reach their potential.

-There is nobody that can step in and give anywhere near that type of production.

-2006 was a long time ago, we only have three players left from that team.

-He has not produced as much as 2008 – but obviously Citi Field is a big reason for that.

-Also, he hasn’t had much protection in the lineup over the past few years, due to injuries, and lack of performance of the hitters below him.

-He may not be a leader, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a roll.

-The future of the franchise financially has little to do with paying David Wright or any other player too much money. Ownership has mismanaged money & investments, and mismanaged this team in general.

-It is hard to find a player like David Wright – he is solid defensively, has some speed, is a good hitter, fan friendly, and plays everyday.

-If this is a question of value, then I believe right now he is being undervalued because of the teams poor performance.

Getting rid of Wright and Reyes further destroys the fabric bonding the Mets to the Big Apple community. Do we want the kinds of fans who don’t distinguish between going to a baseball game and going to a local movie? To these fans, its just a night out. As I implied, comparing David Wright and Scott Rolen is like minimizing the difference between oil and water. Wright (and Reyes) have community value. Rolen was a less popular player who had little or none.

I’m glad you raised the question about Wright. I just want to share my 20,000 feet view.