Comments on: See Ya Ollie, It’s Only A Matter Of Time Now

By: francis

francis — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:19:12 +0000

yeah, and those are warning track outs at citi field ( ok, maybe not ).

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 04:21:12 +0000

Yeah, let the new guy get a look and make the decision rather than once again wind up with zippo. Well it didn’t cost anything to try.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 04:18:29 +0000

I hope so stick.

By: stick

stick — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 03:41:55 +0000

hopefully the era of that type of move is over.

By: stick

stick — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 03:40:04 +0000

I think by the time it all came to a head last year, the team was already dead in the race, and they probably had decided Jerry and Omar were toast.

so given that, it made sense to just ride it out, and let the next GM try to see if they could get some kind of value out of him.’

1 winter season and a ST, and the sad answer is no, but it was worth the try at that point.

By: srt

srt — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:58:19 +0000

Your logic makes no sense.

It would only make sense if they had to spend more money to replace Ollie. Since they don’t and that Perez money is already spent, no reason not to release him.

By: srt

srt — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:56:35 +0000

Yup. This makes sense to me.
Absolutely no reason to keep him on the roster. The money is spent either way. Might as well field the best team possible.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:56:10 +0000

And it really makes you wonder how the Braves for instance could trade a minor league relief pitcher for Omar Infante, get 3 decent years out of him at age 26-28 that cost 6M total, while we have to always go top shelf, big money for a guy who’s best years are behind him. We of course get nothing when he leaves, the Braves get Uggla. The level of incompetence of the Met FO going all the way back to 1998 is just incredible.

The answer to every question on the team is always the owners checkbook, except when it comes to the draft.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:30:24 +0000

This is the thing though. Young added to Reyes, Pagan, Wright and Davis isn’t enough. Thole/Paulino could be decent, Bay could rebound, Beltran could hit like he did in September but at least one of these, if not more are bound to under perform and one of the first four could very easily too, and then Young himself is no guarantee. If all Young cost is money and no prospects, I’m not against it but I don’t think importing yet another former All-Star on his last contract would make a big positive impact.

We’ve tried that a million times around here and that’s a big part of why we have crashed 3 times now since 1993. Sooner or later we have to try a different approach.

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:29:59 +0000

You make it sound so simple…I will snap my fingers and see if it happens.

By: Pat

Pat — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:09:50 +0000

The rangers are willing to pay half of youngs contract. I know it wont happen but wht noy pay most of ollies contract and bring in young for second base? I understand the no trade clause and the contract but young is a huge upgrade

By: happy little mets fans

happy little mets fans — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:45:44 +0000

Don’t forget, the Wilpons are supposed to be rich folk.. The whining about two old rich SOBS having to pay some bad deals demonstrates how absolutely assinine and pathetic this metsie fandom is. you whining little wilpon lovers act like no other team ever ate bad deals. you all deserve your horrible team, horrible owner hotrrible players and morgue like stadium. whah whah whah little metsies crying for the thriving conniving wilpons. you guys are so so embarrassing to human kind. you ain’t even funny anymore.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:12:50 +0000

Last year they went 23 deep (including a DH they traded 2 #1 draft choices for) and had to DFA their entire bench mid season and even brought up two 20 year old’s well before they were ready. All told there were times we only had 18-20 Major League caliber players on the roster

Perez will be gone.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:07:50 +0000

He should have been let go this time last year. Failing that he should have been let go when he refused to go down, help himself and his team.

Don’t worry, he’ll be gone.

By: stick

stick — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:00:37 +0000

they are laying out the same amount of cash, if ollie is on the team or not. So you think they are going to keep a guy that has negative performance value, and will actually incite the fans to riot if they see him, just to avoid the embarrassment of having that much salary on the scrap heap?

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:54:28 +0000

All those guys that their paying, not to play are a direct result of never having anyone in the pipeline.

By: stick

stick — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:40:57 +0000

don’t forget, they are paying Bonilla now too!

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:40:48 +0000

Their replacements might be “almost free,” but they (Castillo/Perez) will still cost the Mets $18 million this year, whether they are here or not. Not to mention, the Mets are also on the hook for $1,193,248.20 per year for the next 25 years to Mr. Bonilla. Plus, what they still owe Omar and Mathews Jr…by cutting Ollie, the Mets will be paying over $20 million to people who are no longer on the team. My prediction…On opening day, Ollie is in the ‘pen.

By: stick

stick — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:40:14 +0000

they are paying ollie 12mill if he sits home, or sits in the pen not being used. or if he goes to AA.

assuming he gets picked up for the minimum by some desperate team (quite likely), and the mets replace him with a minimum wage guy like O’conner, it literally will not cost them a dime to cut Ollie.

if anything, the positive PR buzz might generate a few extra ticket sales, so actually making them money!

By: Sach

Sach — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:36:43 +0000

BTW, the Wilpons this year are also eating 1MM owed to Gary Matthews Jr. and 1.1 MM owed to Omar Minaya.