While the Acosta/Boyer comparison might make sense thats the wrong guy to be comparing him to.

Beato has done well no argument but Sandy’s statement only works if Beato wasn’t being looked at. If past performance is more important thats fine but if Options trump performance then really the performance is still a secondary concern.

Would Beato beat Acosta if he could be sent down?
Would there be any need to compare Acosta to Boyer if that roster spot was open?
Would Beato make the team if he wasn’t a rule 5 pick and foced to be kept on the ML roster?

Now I’m not saying Sandy is making a blunder here by keeping Beato but he really should have worked the issue of who to keep from the Beato side not the Acosta Boyer side.

I don’t see much exalting going on, but plenty of bashing. Why nopt take your own advice and see how the season goes?

I bet it’s a LOT higher than that

“You brought up astro turf which has been eliminated in baseball here in the US”
For the 3rd time, i was ASKING. So your saying artificial turf has been eliminated from all parks? Okay, i’ll check that out.

Here’s something I said
“A groundball may not be what you want if the infield is in..unless u hope it’s hit directly at somebody, there the K would probably be better if u don’t get the DP”

This is your response which had NOTHING to do with what i said in the first place.
“You brought up the fact that GB’s can be a disadvantage when you play the infield in when the very reason you play in is because your hoping to get a ground ball. That’s something every baseball fan on every single level knows and yet your trying to claim it can be a bad thing.
Well of course it can be a bad thing JACKASS. It’s a desperation play. Get a GB at you, turn two. Have no time to react and it gets through, give up two.”
That’s your response to what I said and again..it has NOTHING to do with what I said in the first place.

“You want to play the infield in and bring in a flyball pitcher. Why don’t you just bring your infielders a lawn chair?”
Don’t know where you got that from. Are you drinking?

“You don’t know s*** about shinola when it comes to baseball”
I know you don’t believe that.

“Your too stupid to understand the ramifications of us drafting Eddie Kunz, Nate Vinyard, Brent Rustich and Stephen Clyne in 2007 while the Braves were drafting Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman and Craig Kimbrell.”

??????

Okay i’m gonna leave it at that. Somehow tagee managed to bring the draft and Omar Minaya into my response to Chris.

The guy is nuts.

The groundball guy works in every stadium provided you have a decent fielding team.
If there is any concern is it might expose Emaus’ glove, but you can’t pick your pitchers based on that.

If Acosta passes through waivers then no harm but I doubt he will.

You brought up astro turf which has been eliminated in baseball here in the US.

You brought up the fact that GB’s can be a disadvantage when you play the infield in when the very reason you play in is because your hoping to get a ground ball. That’s something every baseball fan on every single level knows and yet your trying to claim it can be a bad thing.

Well of course it can be a bad thing JACKASS. It’s a desperation play. Get a GB at you, turn two. Have no time to react and it gets through, give up two.

What ‘effin planet do you come from anyway. You can dish it out but you can’t take it.

I don’t give a fiddlers **** if you respond to me in the shoutbox or anywhere else.

You don’t know s*** about shinola when it comes to baseball.

You want to play the infield in and bring in a flyball pitcher. Why don’t you just bring your infielders a lawn chair?

Your too stupid to understand the ramifications of us drafting Eddie Kunz, Nate Vinyard, Brent Rustich and Stephen Clyne in 2007 while the Braves were drafting Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman and Craig Kimbrell.

It’s that same stupidity that causes you to actually write that “Omar put together a good team.” Despite the fact that he inherited the two best players, got another one with the owners check book, another in a salary dump, and filled in behind them with below average players, including a bench that all had to be DFA’d mid season, 2 roster spots for a BP pitcher and a DH, 14 hitters who couldn’t even get OB more often than two of the starting pitchers and actually drafted all those washouts while Atlanta was regrouping to kick our asses for another 14 years straight.

Your right I’m not a nice guy, not when it comes to out and out stupidity.

no chance that is true and fire-able offense if true. it is not about identity, it is about winning with the best players. but again, no chance alderson is stupid enough to care about such a nonsensical dumb fan mentality thing like that.

No kidding you MORON. That wasn’t what you were talking about when i responded to you in the first place. That’s situational..what u said originally wasn’t situational, you were just talking in absolutes. Naturally you side step and you start in with other things that are not mentioned. You always do that, you write entire novels here on a daily basis doing things like that.

I was also ASKING if there are any artificial surfaces anymore, that’s all.

agee, don’t pretend to be a nice guy like u occasionally do, that’s why i really didn’t repond to your ACT in the shoutbox the other night. Your T-ball comment about me was really DUMB. Then again most of the stuff you say is really dumb.

You spew out a lot of information and you’re read up on the minor leagues systems a lot. More than I ever will but it still does not translate into baseball knowledge which you have very little.

Every single response by you is about the history of the Mets drafting and their farm system. Basically, in a nutshell, your answer to every post is well if the Mets would have drafted better starting back in 1962 or 61, whatever….then they would be better today. That’s how you basically answer everything.

I respectfully disagree with this opinion you just shared Maniac. If you can expand on why you feel this is the case that may help but I think it is just who fits best right now with what they are trying to do.

What does “no matter what” even imply if I can ask?

Do you mean Collins said I don’t care if player x is better and my guy is worse i want my guy “no matter what”?

Heck what does the term “My Guy” even imply when you are using it?

No, in my opinion to say the decision was a “I’m picking my guy no matter what” is an opinion that without further explanation just doesn’t really sound reasonable.

I may just not have seen it or maybe my definition of exalt is different then yours but I don’t recall seeing anyone here on MMO “exalting them”. Who ever “them” is.

And Astro turf? Whoa baby, now your really reaching. Name me one artificial turf field in the entire National League.

On second thought, your right. We should build our bullpen based around the once every six years we play in Toronto.

Really Bayonne you just continue to impress me with your “knowledge” of baseball.

Not even close…….

Vibes? Really?

I’m not concerned about pitch counts in this argument. I just look for the better pitcher for my team be it strikeout guy or groundball or flyball guy. It all depends on what type of team i’m building.

And jeez..do any stadiums use artificial turf anymore? If so than groundballs move faster on those surfaces. That could be good or bad.

The ground ball plays well in every stadium.

The ground ball can get you two outs.

The ground ball pitcher has a lower pitch count than the strikeout pitcher so therefore can go deeper as a starter or two innings instead of one.

I’m sure Acosta will be picked up and we’ll be able to compare the two. I would have kept Acosta but I understand it was close and the bullpen really didn’t have any stress on it last year even down a man (Ollie)

To me the real head scratcher is Harris over Evans. Lets face it, this team is not a finished product. For what Harris gives you (2nd back up CFer, 3rd back up 2nd Basemen, good corner D and pinch runner) you could get from the farm (Newenhaus CF, Turner 2B) True you’d have to burn options with both of them and who knows if Newenhaus even could play CF, but this is the thing. If Pagan goes down AND either Bay, Beltran or Hairston do too, then the seasons over anyway. We might as well find out about Nuwenhaus and while we’re at it find out about Fern/Evans in RF or Fern/Duda in LF.

Evans could also have spelled Davis against LHP on occasion and the mere fact that he’s on the bench would prevent other managers from bringing in the lefty against Thole or Davis (or Duda) He would also have 4 years of team control remaining where Harris is one and done and as long as we have Fern and Duda around, could most likely use a RH compliment.

I also don’t think that Harris would have been picked up and therefore we could have had both. Maybe we still can. We’ll see.