29
2011
Mets Trade Eddie Kunz To Padres For Allan Dykstra
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Via MetsBlog,
According to Darren Smith of XX 1090 in San Diego, the Mets have acquired first baseman Allan Dykstra from the Padres in exchange for RHP Eddie Kunz.
The Mets selected Kunz as the 42nd overall pick in the 2007 draft. He made his major league debut with the Mets on August 3, 2008, but pitched to a 13.50 ERA in four appearances before being sent down to the minors just 13 days later. He never appeared in another game at the major league level.
Dykstra was originally drafted by the Red Sox in the 34th round of the 2005 draft at the age of 18, but the Padres the Padres made him the 23rd overall pick in the 2008 draft, and in three seasons at Single-A, he has hit .235 with 28 home runs and 140 RBI in 245 games, although his career on base percentage is .388.
Basically it looks like a swap of first round busts. However Amazin Avenue sees more to it:
Kunz had zero tools and Dykstra appears to have at least one, so this looks like a nothing-for-something trade from the Mets’ perspective.
As Sandy Alderson and Paul DePodesta both arrived in New York via the Padres’ organization, you have to figure one or the other is a Dykstra fan.
Personally, I would prefer to have Nick Evans in the pipeline than Allan Dykstra, but the bottom line is that there’s nothing to see here, move along…
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Hojo, i agree that Eddie Kunz was a first-round bust. I just hope Matt Harvey isn’t the same.
This just in! Misch clears waivers and excepts assignment to AAA.
Link please, because that would mean there would news on Evans as well.
How many years in a row do you have to see Nick Evans have a great spring , get called up, get off to a hot start and then DISAPPEAR. Give me a break. You sound like one of those Met fans that cried when we got rid of Rubin Gotay
Can’t wait for the great FRAUD and HATER agee to use Kunz for one more novella about what a bad gm Omar was. Well agee no matter how bad, he’s still a lot better than you ever will be!!!!
What in the world are you talking about?
Harry’s been sniffing glue again.
No one will ever know, but we do know it’s never about baseball.
T Agee must really just get way under your skin there. I mean your now commenting about things he has yet to even write in a post?
Wow!
Well lucky for you Harry you won’t have to wait very long.
Eddie Kunz was the singularly worst #1 pick in the entire history of the NY Mets and as a group he comprised the worst draft class ever in the entire history of the ML draft.
So, at least he has that going for him.
While the Braves were selecting Jason Heyward and Freddie Freeman we took Kunz the 42nd selection overall, a supplementary round pick for Roberto Hernandez and was as usual a slot selection mound washout who pitched 46 innings, all in relief, at 2.91 ERA for Oregon State in 2007. 2006 it was 42 IP 3.61 ERA.
Now pitchers in general are risky propositions especially when your restricted to the precious slotting guidelines and it is true that his arm was not abused in college but that was more due to the fact that he sucked. in 60 appearances he had 12 saves. In other words he was the Aaron Heilman of his college baseball team.
He was drafted for two and two reasons only. Low signing bonus and potential to be able to do something/anything as quickly as possible.
Among the players left on the board (just in the supplementary and 2nd round) were Cumberland and Culberson, both AA SS/2B combo of the Giants, Tommy Hanson SP Braves, Jordon Zimmerman SP Nationals, Mike Stanton RF Marlins, Freddie Freeman 1B Braves, Austin Romine C AAA NYY and many other fine players working their way up right now.
With our second supplementary round pick for the loss of Bradford we selected Nate Vineyard #47 who cashed the check, pitched 30 innings and quit.
With Cleveland’s 2nd round pick (Hernandez) we selected yet another bust pitcher Scott Moviel a high schooler.
With our own 2nd rounder we selected Brent Rustich another seeming bust college (UCLA) relief pitcher.
With Baltimore’s 3rd rounder (Bradford) we selected Erik Niessen a LHP out of Wake Forest who’s upside is LOOGY.
With our own 3rd rounder we selected Steven Cline RH relief pitcher Clemson. Bust.
Lutz, Duda and Gee came in rounds 5, 7 and 21. All low ceiling, one dimensional as fitting the rounds they were selected but Gee might very well turn out to be a real good pick and Duda useful with a defensive caddy but clearly the talent that was passed over in the early rounds for these freaks we took is really the definition of why we have so many holes at so many positions year after year.
This was also the year we VOLUNTARILY handed our #1 and a supplementary round pick to SF for a 40 year old LFer who played 100 games over two years at 15 M while they selected an OFer and another 2B and Brackman, Borbon, Smoker, Cecil and D’Anaurd were left on the board.
Have you been sniffing paint thinner?
which agee are you talking about?
Me Cuz. Harry doesn’t like that I point out all the bad moves that Omar made through the years. Of course he doesn’t dispute them, try to defend them, or claim they were good moves. He just doesn’t like them being pointed out.
Hey TA – I think that Omar did some good things and some bad things. He definitely turned the team around and made it more attractive to good players.
He put a team out there that should have won the WS.
But he did have a blind spot for veteran players whose used by date had lapse and that was a shame.
He also created the “Los Mets” which fractionalized the team, in my opinion.
There was a definte lack of leadership both on the field and with the managers that could be linked to both Omar and the owners. I’m not sure that has been addressed yet – though, at first glance Collins seems to have the enthusiasm and energy that we need.
I wonder how much the Madoff situation hurt Omar in his final two years.
Just to further the point of how fractionalized the Mets were – look at the effort in recent years that the team put in September play. The team, as a unit, failed to to gel at the most important times. Omar also failed to address the needs of the team during the season when some players got hurt.
I think Omar deserved a lot more out of Church and Schneider. Church got going a couple of times briefly but Schneider was just a waste. Jerry really didn’t like Schneider so naturally he gets rid of Castro. Then Church. He and Omar didn’t seem to be in sync.
I’m sure the Madoff thing did hurt Omar. After all why would he trade Wagner and the two #1′s for Lora and Carter? and voluntarily give up a #1 for Alou?
The Wilpon’s have screwed it up for a long time now and without the checkbook they have no weapons.
amen, brother
So what’s Dykstras one tool, the ability to draw walks at the minor league level?
Evidently that’s what the new front office likes. We know the guy draws a couple walks. We dont’ know if he can develop to be a power hitter, how good his defense is and all those other intangibles that the new Front Office doesn’t put a premium on.
Just walks.
So clearly you didn’t read where it gave his power numbers in the article? Or do you forego all that to take a silly pot shot at the new front office. And if you’re going to have one tool, not making outs is obviously the best one to have.
“not making outs”
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Make sure you don’t make an out now, okay?
Never mind that in the course of a 9 inning game and the certain situation sometimes you have to make outs in order to win.
But let’s just focus on “not making outs” The level of “cleverness” with that statement knows no bounds.
“he level of “cleverness” with that statement knows no bounds.”
I was thinking the same thing regarding this.
“We dont’ know if he can develop to be a power hitter, how good his defense is and all those other intangibles that the new Front Office doesn’t put a premium on. Just walks.”
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What does that have to do with baseball, or anything?
It doesn’t have anything to do with baseball Xtreemicon.
It is just another comment that eventually will lead to a road that ends in a comment waiting moderation.
I am amazed how you continue to think that you have some special privilege here on MMO where you can dictate who is allowed to reply to statements you make but you can reply to whomever you wish when you feel the need to do so.
As usual when called out on a statement you make where you are unable to reply on the topic your only recourse is to take the conversation outside the realm of baseball.
Your act is old dude. You need a new one. Try growing up and just calling me out for why i was wrong to say what i did?
When you resort to these silly tactics you only hurt yourself. You definitely are not hurting me so if that is your intent I can tell you online childish taunts from people using fictitious names to hide behind do little other than to ask for respect when that line is crossed.
Grow up.
That’s just sad.
The fact is, it’s not new and clever. It’s obvious. But you think heart and grit wins games, instead. That’s ridiculous. That being said, there’s is not one, single solitary situation where making an out is better than not making an out, with one exception.
The only exception is runner on third and less than two outs in a tie game in the home half of the ninth or later, then yes, a sac fly would be better than a walk. In that one instance. However, not making an out isn’t only walking. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you. “Not making an out” also consists of hits. You tell me one situation where making an out is better than getting a hit. Name one. I dare you to try and continue this.
A hit is ALWAYS better than an out naturally so let’s not be STUPID. That’s the problem with you saber guys – you think just by pointing out obvious things in baseball and you just think it’s just that simple. Just get on base and don’t make outs. Sure, i mean ANYBODY can now think they know or understand the game just by adhering to those 2 simple, prehistoric aspects of the game.
But there are plenty of instances where i may forego the At Bat and choose to use an out to increase my chances of winning the game depending on any given situation.
For example:
I may want a guy to bunt a runner over from 2B (or 1B) one game if that batter isn’t hitting that specific pitcher, is in a slump or I just may want to bring the infield in to face somebody i have off the bench. It’s a chance i may want to take, moving the runner over in order to win a game, purposely forcing the opposition to bring the infield in or just let the pitcher pitch to somebody in a slump. Judgement call by manager.
If he’s a righty, not hitting or not having success against a certain pitcher I may want my batter w/runner on 2B to sacrifice himself by hitting the ball the opposite way to move the runner over for my next batter, if the ball goes through great if not than at least i move the runner over. If it’s a go ahead run in the 8th than I’ll take it if i have my closer warming up.
A lot of things come into play depending how successful or not a certain batter (YES even one that may walk a lot, lol) is against a certain pitcher. It’s called managing and it’s a judgement call.
Or just simply having the pitcher sacrifice.
So yes – am i foregoing a chance at a hit by taking the bat out of any given players’ hands to try and win the game in a way I think is the best? Depending on the circumstances and who’s hot and who’s not? Yes you can say that.
“We dont’ know if he can develop to be a power hitter, how good his defense is and all those other intangibles that the new Front Office doesn’t put a premium on.”
Wow… When you put your foot in your mouth you go all the way don’t you?
They got a guy with one or two discernable abilities for a guy with no discernable abilities.
The downside being…
The downside is that the front office only cares about walks! Nothing else! Only walks! That’s obviously evident by…… Well, clearly…….. I mean…….. So wait, Willie Harris, a speedy, defensive player with a less than average career OBP clearly demonstrates the front office’s……. WHat I meant to say was……..
Etc, etc, etc.
Actually, Harris does walk a lot – I believe his walk rate last year was higher than every player on the mets last year. So yes I do think that one of the reasons Willie Harris was signed was because of his walks.
You make no sense. You bash Alderson for holding OBP in such high regard, then use that a the reason he signed a guy who had a .291 OBP last season?
No, you make no sense. I don’t bash Alderson because he likes OBP, I never said that – go find where I said that. And yes i’m sure one of the reasons why Harris was signed was because he walks a lot.
I don’t mind the Harris signing at all. We needed a backup OF and he’s a good defensive OF, and I’m sure he’s going to hit for a higher average than he did last year. I expect him to bounce back. He didn’t cost much either, so it’s not a bad move at all.
Never said it was a bad move. I’d sign Willie Harris’s grandmother to a minor league deal. I don’t think he’s any good, but the eventual bust won’t cost the Mets anything.
Hairston is probably a better example than Harris, just saying. I do see your point though.
Like Hojo said, it’s just a swap of first round busts. Dyksrta is a career .235 hitter in the minors, and last year, he struck out 122 times in 113 games…..
Agreed
46 doubles 27 HR’s and 130 RBI in 2 minor league seasons is hardly terrible. If he shows a good eye down there it even bodes better for him.
At 24 this year, presumably in AA we have a chance to get something out of him. What? who knows but it will certainly be more than anyone will get out of Kunz.
There are things you can find to complain about with every GM but this transaction has no downside.
I doubt he’ll be in AA. I’d say High A.
What difference does this make? Its a trade that effects nothing on the big club, high minors. All this does is give us depth at 1st in the low minors. Kunz was never going to make it to the big club, neither will Dykstra.
walks mean you can judge balls and strikes, which is really important
Can everyone stop with this please? All this does is give the Mets another low minors bat. Its just a trade of our fodder for their fodder. Neither will see the lights of Citi Field.
Maybe the FO thought they were getting Lenny’s kid =)
Kunz wouldn’t have been protected in next years rule 5, not that anyone would have taken him but Dykstra doesn’t even have to be put on the 40 to be safe from rule 5 poachers. Gives him time to develop and who knows? Better than Kunz that for sure.