The actual game and how it unfolded is entirely different story

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Hold on, let me check the numbers…..

Nope, the Phillies still win the division. They had a better numbers in two insignificant and little know stats: wins and losses.

I mean Ollie impressed them for about a day and a half too! LOL

I would love for Capuano and Young to come back strong and make the rotation but my concern about them has much less to do with their performance and everything to do with their durability.

Sometimes when your busy trying to impress your new boss you tend to overdo it and then wind up blowing out your arm.

luis ayala was our closer and the middle relief was awful. not to mention maine couldn’t get past the fourth inning.

we blew like 5 big leads in innings 3-6.

wagner going down was a killer, just as in 2007. you can ask last year’s braves about wagner, and they’ll tell you something similar.

You spend more time trying to have a conversation with someone who will never respond to you, than with the other readers who are willing and able to actually engage you in a bilateral conversation.

and not only are those just only numbers and have not much to do with what actually happened during the course of that race but your commenting on something that had nothing to do with what KMaxx and I were talking about.

Just because I mentioned 08 doesn’t mean we now take the debate into different territories. So i’m done here. We’ll talk 08 another time.

The actual game and how it unfolded is entirely different story

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more important are what pelf,dickey and niese do. then add what you hope to get from davis thole bay beltran and pagan to name a few and u start to see how many bigger things the mets have to worry about. i respect your opinion but imo i do not agree.

Easley .241
Castillo .111

We’re just trying to be positive here. I am rooting for Chris Young and the author just notes that it would be doubly good if it works out – because it looks good for Alderson and obviously it helps our team.

Hitman, you hit the nail on the head. It’s not the talent, it’s his fragile body. If he can make it through 200 IP, which he has never done…Absolute and utter steal.

Beltran .344
Delgado .340
Wright .337
Murphy .290
Schneider .260
Reyes .243
Church .209
Alou .000

Alou was remarkably consistent in the 2007 pennant race, he also hit .000 for us down the stretch.

They treat us like we’re monkeys and will run down to the box office as soon as they sign another big name regardless of how much they have left in the tank.

Every team has their share of heartbreak, even the Yankees. They could point to Sandy Alomar Jr.’s HR, Gonzalez’s bloop or Beckett’s dominant game 6. It happens. That’s what sports is about but they also have 5 World Championships and have been to the post season 15 out of 16 years.

No one should try to emulate the way the Yankees do things because they live in a different universe but there has to be a process that we could employ that would lead to better results than the one we have been working under.

One HR didn’t keep us out of the playoffs those eleven times we we’re under .500 in the last two decades. Our thought process did. The way we went about our business failed.

A different process that has been successful elsewhere needs to be integrated into our philosophy. Less paying of guys for what they did elsewhere and more paying of guys for what they do here.

More prospects, more IFA’s, more scouts. A real plan for prospect development that goes beyond “lets try him there.” and most of all less future options flushed down the toilet in favor of guys on their last contract.

Lets face it the team with the highest payroll in the NL over the last 2 decades shouldn’t have only 1 less losing season than Montreal/Washington without there being something seriously wrong. Long term wrong, not just a big HR at an inopportune moment.

Now the Mets situation is different they only had 5 million to spend and a lot of question marks, 2.6 of that was for Cap & Young, 2 reclamation projects. It’s a gamble. Can it pay off? Maybe. But it’s a roll of the dice that can pay off and if it doesn’t if has a chance of affecting the Mets season big time.

That’s the difference. You could equate the “Lee hypothetical” to the Mets signing of Santana. Great pitcher, sure thing. Unfortunately we had some other players who decided to not show up in September when we needed them the most in Santana’s first year with us.

And to add to it, not only would Lee NOT be a risk but he instantly improves our chances and makes the team better. That’s not a low risk, high reward signing lol. It’s no risk – he makes you better, period.

end of hypothetical.

Think it wasn’t high risk bringing up a 20 year old with one pitch who had only 40 IP above A ball?

Every move is risky when you have no depth and no high ceiling IFA’s or draftees banging on the door.

You simply cannot get guarantees from free agency (obviously) or anywhere else, what you can do is not lock yourself into long term deals with ageing players and provide as many options as possible through your farm system but to do that you have to look beyond just this year.

If we signed Cliff Lee, he’s not a risk.

I would agree with you if it not for the fact that the Mets have had a history of heart breaking defeats on the field that have set back their chances of playoff contention for a number of years going back to the 80s that have forever changed their destiny

Yeah, after all that then NOWWW i can go back and say well if the Wilpons did this and that. I don’t like the Wilpons either but a lot has done down on the field over the years. I’m not gonna go back and revisit our scouting and drafting processes with each post just because Yadier Molina had a big HR, or Beltran struck out, or 2 September collapses that are the players’s fault.

Or even a big HR by Terry Pendleton.

If all of these things went the other way i dont think you’d be here revisiting our scouting and drafting methods with every post.