Comments on: Blaine Boyer Can Opt Out If Not On Mets Opening Day Roster

By: darth minaya

darth minaya — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:42:54 +0000

They should outright Misch now…nobody is going to free up a 40 man roster spot for him right now.

Boyer has a good fastball (averaged 94+ last year), but his offspeed stuff is below average. I’d rather see them stick with a Beato or somebody who might have a touch of upside rather than him.

By: Berbalerbs

Berbalerbs — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:15:52 +0000

I, for one disagree that every offseason needs to be all or nothing. I think that’s what the plan has been the past few years, and hasn’t served us that well.

Remember, it’s not like Sandy was hired mid-season last year, got a chance to see what he was working with, then started the offseason after the last game of the World Series. He was hired in (mid) November to turn around a team that had MULTIPLE glaring problems and very little capital to work with.

And not only the players; he had to pick a manager and build his FO, all while learning the Mets organization top to bottom. (And I reject the argument that “Sandy should’ve been preparing before he was hired” which I’ve actually seen on some comment boards…I mean come on …not saying you’re making that argument)

And I do get your point about the Vernon Wells thing, but that’s generally viewed as a monumentally terrible move by the Angels, so it’s more the “exception” and not the “rule.” But just for sake of argument, here’s (IMO) the guys not in the five rule plan that might have net something:

Johan (season ending surgery, hopefully back by ASG)
K-Rod (season ending surgery, ridiculous vesting option, grandpa puncher)
Bay (HUGE contract, Castillo-esque ’10 offensive output)
Beltran (HUGE contract, oft injured, we did try and shop him to no avail)

I just don’t think any of those guys would have been traded for anything that would’ve made the move worthwhile.

By: Sean Kenny

Sean Kenny — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:19:57 +0000

Misch has been exposed before and passed through waivers, so there is a chance he passes through. As a loogy, he doesn’t profile well.

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:10 +0000

Beato should beat-o ut the rest. He is a rule 5 and they can hold him as long as they want. He has pitched well and we have seen Acosta and Misch. No lights out for either one of them.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:24:26 +0000

I don’t really know what more he could have done. I read he was engaged with Boston right before they signed Crawford. Maybe that was a smoke screen by Theo. I also read that he was spending a lot of time with Sabean. I have to believe there was something there because of our matching needs but other than remaking the pen, adding some starters and depth, the team was already picked out for him.

He got us Dickey for two additional years (our choice for the 2nd one) a platoon mate for Thole, a couple of good bench players that won’t have to be DFA’d mid season and he did it all for about 1/10th of what Omar had to spend his first off season and 1/2 of what Phillips had. He signed a couple of IFA’s from the DR and even got us an extra 1st round pick in the draft. I’m sure the free agent loving monkey’s out there will snicker about that but if we had been adding draft picks through the years we might have filled some of these never ending problem areas not only effectively, but also inexpensively which would help us to support a big time ace.

The only area left unaddressed was 2B. Only so much you can do with 20M to spend but hell even with the funds we haven’t properly addressed that position since Fonzie left. Let’s not put all the blame on Alderson.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:19:59 +0000

I’ve been commenting here for at least 4+ years and only now just started noticing your comments. Let me just say that you are a welcome addition because lately there’s only a few objective readers left here that aren’t falling all over themselves praising Alderson for shopping at Dollar Tree and bringing back essentially the same team that finished 4th place two years in a row.

He said this year is not a throw-away but he certainly treated it like one. If you’re going to compete, then compete. If you’re going to re-build, then rebuild. Choose a side – do something!

By: Dennis Ribant

Dennis Ribant — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:12:44 +0000

Wow! No antagonizing. Thanks I won’t give you specific names because it just leads to arguments. And nobody knows who was or wasn’t really avaialable on the trade marlet. But in general, I find it ridiculous to not spend a Winter doping one of two things; buiding a team for your next season to win now, or tearing up your team to start a rebuilding process. I will accept the line that he didn’t have the dough to buy buy buy, but he states if everything is perfect the Mets can win, why couldn’t this very birhgt man make a deal or three without increasing payroll to improve the team? Then people say, nobody wants our guys. Well, don’t think so since guys with horrid contracts like Vernon Wells got moved. IK, so if he was goiung to rebuild I don’t buy the line that he has to wait a year to start doing it. He could have spent an entire Winter beginning the process, trading anyone not in the plans 5 years down the road for kids. But he didn’t do anything. I find his first Winter to be a failure.

By: Berbalerbs

Berbalerbs — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:04:04 +0000

Just out of curiosity, what “inaction” were you unhappy about this offseason? What free agents/trades weren’t made that you thought we should have made? I’m not antagonizing, just genuinely curious.

By: oldtimer

oldtimer — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:00:33 +0000

So much talent, what’s a team to do? Izzy, Beato, Acosta, Boyer, how many will be pitching in the majors in July? Let’s hope one of the two that the Mets choose will be that one.

By: scottydoesn'tknow

scottydoesn'tknow — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:40:15 +0000

I mean, what are we so overly concerned about. We are talking about losing a Blaine Boyer, or Manny Acosta here people, not a Reese Havens or other top prospect. Mid-low level relievers are a dime a dozen, just like one of the other posters above mentioned. If Boyer is good enough to beat out the other competition so be it, but a good number of these guys including Boyer were brought in to enduce competition, so lets let it play out, best man wins the job.

With…

K-Rod Closing the 9th
Parnel or Isringhausen (definitely mispelled) handling the 7th and 8th
Misch as the long man
Beato, Carrasco, Bucholtz, and Acosta to pitch the 6th or used for situational lefty/righty

I’m not really concerned with losing a Boyer to the open market. Plus we still have Mejia in the Minors as well as other options if relievers get injured or ineffective

By: Dennis Ribant

Dennis Ribant — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:17:50 +0000

Actually, every team has guys without options and every team wants to see if the guys can make the team in Spring training. And if you are wondering why there were no bites on such “stars” as Misch and Acosta, it is because mediocre players are everywhere. Nobody will take a no option guy with little upside in December or January. Now in March, when injuries and prospect disapointments develop a team might trade based on need for need basis. I’m critical of Alderson for a lot of his inaction and slowness to move but this isn’t one of those areas.

By: chris

chris — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:08:04 +0000

Why did they put themselves in such a precarious situation? Why didn’t they try and trade Acosta or Misch this offseason rather than now watching two/three players walk away without compensation? Bad move and lack of foresight by the all seeing Santino.