Feb
10
2011

Where Are Jason Bay and Carlos Beltran?

In a post to MetsBlog, Matt Cerrone shared a concern from one of his Twitter followers that lead to a post entitled: Where are Ollie and Castillo?

He replied on his blog,

I’ve been thinking the same thing. I mean, I hate to judge, because who knows, maybe they have something important going on in their personal lives, etc., that preclude them from attending these voluntary workouts? Then again, it’s not news that these two are VERY close to being cut from the roster, so you’d think they’d make whatever arrangements they could to get down there early.

I understand where all this angst is coming from and he is simply saying what almost every Mets fan I know is thinking.

However, I would ask all Mets fans to be fair because the fact of the matter is that Jason Bay and Carlos Beltran are not in camp either and both of them have a lot to prove this Spring as well.

Both of them have to show they are healthy, and in the case of Jason Bay, he has to show that he wasn’t a bust and his Luis Castillo-esque power numbers before his concussion was just an aberration.

It’s easy to point to Castillo and Perez, and maybe they deserve the harsher criticism everyone seems to have for them, but as long as they wear the Mets uniform the least we can do is treat them fairly and not single them out for doing the same things other Mets players are doing.

There’s a lot of Mets who are not in camp yet. In fact MetsBlog reported that 32 of them have reported which means that about 25 of them have not.

At least Ollie and Castillo have the excuse that they are in a foreign country and need to get their visas and paperwork in order, but what’s Jason Bay’s excuse?

You see what I’m saying?

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  • Here is my take on Ollie & Castillo. If them not coming into camp early puts them that much closer to being gone. then I say take your time.

    • ^ Super-like ^

      • I’ll co-sign that.

    • Once again the negative Met talk. Does anyone write anything on this sight positive. How do you know what Beltran and Bay are doing. We absolutely no what that piece of garbage Perez is doing. And as for Castillo to be honest he had his shot and it’s time for him to go

  • I agree.

  • No I do not see what you are saying, I see it as yet another day and another “Mets Fan” behind the keyboard trying to stir up unnecessary crap yet again.

    I realize the winter is long and boring.

    They are not required to be there until next week. I’m sure every player, including BAY, are working out on their own time.

    Now we are going to get after players that don’t show up EARLY?

    STOP THE MADNESS – REALLY COME ON

    • Read the post again. I’m not stirring anything up, I am asking all Mets fans to STOP stirring things up and STOP picking on players unfairly. This was a reply to a post on MetsBlog that I thought was unfair. Nice nick by the way.

      • Mea culpa

  • Jason Bay is Canadian… Maybe he needs a visa too?

  • As far as Bay & Beltran go I am more disappointed with Bay mostly because he has a commitment to this team for the next few years and considering the season he had last year you would have hoped he would be eager to come to camp. Yet if he hits this season I won’t really care that he didn’t come to camp early.

    • Just because he’s not at camp early does NOT mean he’s not committed.

      For the love of God STOP the maddness already people………

      • where did you see me write Bay was not committed?

        Instead of repeating words in caps try reading instead.

        I said I was disappointed not mad or frustrated.

        I know he is committed he had better be. I just would of liked to see a little more from him. If that’s too hard to understand then I guess there is not much more to say.

        • What’s your problem Jersey…Marla properly called you out. You are a joke.

          • ???? What are you talking about???

            Again, please by all means call me out all you wish but for something I said please.

        • “I am more disappointed with Bay mostly because he has a commitment to this team for the next few years and considering the season he had last year you would have hoped he would be eager to come to camp.”

          This is where the confusion came. Just the fact that you stated you are disapointed is what bothers me. Why? Do you think he’s sitting home eating bon bons? I can’t kill a guy for not showing up early, call me when someone shows up late.

          • Exactly you can’t kill a guy for not showing up early. I can though be disappointed something way more different than killing him.

  • voluntary means voluntary

  • Too much talk about when a player comes to camp. Everyone agrees Spring Training is far too long and the veteran’s don’t need 6 weeks. They know their bodies. One can burn out in Spring Training, leave it in Floriday, always a mistake.

    The young guys fighting for a job can come early to butter up the manager, but Bay and Beltran are on the team. Anyone who actually played at a high level knows this.

    Ollie and Castillo know they are gone and haven’t cared for a couple of years. The pretense that they could make the team is political and CYA v. the Union

  • Ollie and Castillo aren’t likely to be doing anything to help stay with the mets. More likely they are hoping to get released as soon as possible so they can try to hook up with another team.

    that,and they know they will be bombarded with media attention when they arrive, so better to show up when everyone else is there too (more distractions).

    Bay and Beltran? Well, Carlos probably doesn’t need to ramp up his activity any sooner than required. And Bay lives in Seattle, right? So maybe he wants to spend more time with his family, since for the next 7 months he isn’t going to be seeing much of them.

    these guys all work out year round. So it is not like they are avoiding getting into shape. They don’t seem to be doing much in PSL anyway. Little BP, some catch, hanging around scoping out the local “talent”. Sounds good to me, but not exactly going to make or break the season!

  • Where’s Beltran?

    IDK….maybe here?

    http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110207&content_id=16590680&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym

    This story was printed earlier this week so maybe he’s still involved with tryouts down there in P.R.

  • Me thinks that Beltran, in the news, is doing something with the opening of his Baseball Academy, I guess that means he is doing something meaningful for community.

  • Who gives a shlt if players come to camp early or not? What matters is what they do once the season starts.

    • fans are stupid. they had sabremetrics but love to care about nonsense like this.

  • Also where is Ike Davis the rookie. He did not play winter ball.Maybe what we heard about him last year was right.He has a silver spoon because of his dad.Ike seemed to do only what helped Ike davis succeed and not his team. I hope I am wrong but a first time major player should almost want to play early.Where is he.

    • What you say is true. Ike came up with a chip on his shoulder and reminded me alot of Gregg Jeffries. I dont remember the exact quote, but in september a couple of the veterans were pissed off because he said something about some players giving up. Maybe someone remembers the exact circumstances? Still, I’m a big Ike Davis fan and expect him to build on last season. Very nice site.

      • OMG you have got to be kidding me, I’ve never ever heard anyone describe Ike Davis like that. A chip on his shoulder? Stop, really…..

      • Where’s your proof that Ike Davis was the one who accused the team of not trying hard enough. I remember that and I guessed it was Thole that said it.

        • Guesses, assumptions, think I remember………….no one knows what was said behind closed doors, and all fans need to move on and stop thinking they know what goes on every minute of every second in the club house.

    • I’m fairly certain that whatever helps Davis succeed is good for the team.

      • But thats not the attitude for a player to have. The team comes before him.

        • Unless he’s a mental case like Manny Ramirez, the success of Ike Davis and the Mets are tied together. The Mets’ best chance of being a winning team includes Ike Davis being the best player he can be.

        • You’re just jealous of Ike Davis because you want Daniel Murphy in the lineup. Who the hell are you kidding? How can anyone complain about Ike Davis?

          • To Bayonne. And you dont want him in the lineup (Murphy that is)

            • I do, but as a bench player. Murphy will be a huge asset to the Mets that way. There’s no where for him to start. If he was a good fielder somewhere i wouldn’t mind him in the lineup but he can’t field. He should have worked on his outfield skills in winter ball instead.

    • You are wrong.

  • I think it would be nice to see a lot of the guys show up early, because it seems like they’re hungrier for it… but of course we have no idea what the mindset of the other guys is like. Beltran is doing his baseball academy thing, Reyes was at something with Bloomberg today about getting kids to keep up their good attendance in school… commitments they’ve probably had for ages. As long as the guys mentioned in the article come to camp hungry and ready to work I have no problem with them not arriving early.

  • Wait a minute!! Jason Bay, isn’t he in Canada? Isn’t that a foreign country?

    • Actually, he lives in Seattle now.

  • I personally don’t care where they are or what they do right now…I only care about where they are and what they do when the season has started!

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