The Wilpons Must Step Aside

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• Mr North Jersey February 16, 2011 at 11:36 am

  Your telling people to “Turn to the Times Sports Page today, not the Front Page and find out what is really happening with the Mets team.” suggesting that people should focus more on the players on the field than the Madoff situation that has been grabbing the front page.

  Yet I find it hypocritical of you to continue fueling the focus on the front page of the Times with every post you make about the Madoff and Wilpons issue and not what is happening on the field.

  If you wish to focus on the Madoff issue you should talk about it all you want but then don’t try to tell people to not focus on it and focus on the players on the field when you just finished writing 5 paragraphs asking people to read exactly what your telling them not to in the end.
  • Alex in CT February 16, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Is she writing about Madoff or about having the WIlpons step aside to keep from fueling this fire?

    Didn’t she expend a few paragraphs commending the players, the fans, Sandy Alderson and Terry Collins and Tom Seaver?

    You make it sound like she posted about the mess when all she did was make an impassioned plea for the Wilpons to spare us all the drama and step aside until this dark cloud passes.

    Actually, I think you should apologize because you obviously saw her post but didn’t read it.
    • Mr North Jersey February 16, 2011 at 11:50 am

      Really?

      Paragraph 1
      This Madoff inspired financial debacle that hovers over the Mets like impending doom, just keeps getting more and more frustrating. How can Fred and Saul et. al. keep pretending that all is okay, and that this ongoing and ever-changing soap opera is nothing more than just another bump in the road?

      Paragraph 2
      It’s a big mistake that Bud Selig has chosen to let them swim in this mess rather than have them step aside until the storm has passed.

      Paragraph 3
      Don’t they care enough about the current team; players and fans? Believe it or not, there are many of us out in the real world who care very much about this team, and we also understand that to play ball well, you must be focused entirely on the field and not be constantly thinking about what the courts will decide regarding the Mets Organization.

      Paragraph 4
      Sandy Alderson must be wondering just how he will deal with all of this – so far, like the Marine Officer he is, he has managed very well to keep his mind open and just do the job at hand.

      Please the focus of the post is about the Mets Madoff issue. Again if Annie wishes to make that her focus that is her right to do so but dont then write for people to not focus on it when she just finished making it the focus.
      • Alex in CT February 16, 2011 at 11:54 am

        Yes, you’re right I apololgize. She totally filled her post with plenty of detail on the Madoff situation, my mistake. Who apponted you to be Judge Joe Brown anyway?
        • Mr North Jersey February 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm

          She made a post and I commented on how I viewed it. You apparently felt i misinterpreted her post and i attempted to show you why i think your wrong.

          If you or anyone else have anything further to add to the conversation that doesn’t lower itself to silliness I’m here.
    • Harry C February 16, 2011 at 4:40 pm

      I agree with Alex. My North Jersey blasts virtually everyone here, and then cries foul when he is called out on it. The hypocrite seems to be from Jersey not from Ct.
      • Mr North Jersey February 16, 2011 at 5:30 pm

        Everyone?

        Harry with all due respect I gave my opinion on how I felt of Annie’s post. If you or anyone feels my reasoning behind what I said is wrong feel free to expand on why.

        If you think I am a hypocrite I look forward to you pointing out those times that you feel i was and I will try to address them as best I can.
• chris February 16, 2011 at 11:47 am

  The worst thing the Wilpons could do is go to St. Lucie where now hundreds of media hounds will gather and only make spring training about madoff instead of the players. TERRIBLE MOVE WILPONS!!!!!
  • Donal February 16, 2011 at 11:50 am

    If they don’t, they will be accused of hiding.

    Besides, if the media vultures want to talk about Madoff, they will. This way, they can chase the Wilpons around the complex rather than the players and coaches.
    • t agee February 16, 2011 at 2:25 pm

      Exactly Donal. Get out there, get it out of the way, get on with it.

      Games will start, players will play and the Wilpon’s will deal with whatever comes their way.

      No one’s going to be thinking of Maddof when theirs a runner on 3rd one out.

      It could become a problem with free agents to be and that’s a real concern but between the first and 54th out won’t enter anyone’s mind.
• Gina February 16, 2011 at 11:52 am

  Why are they going to Florida? I already heard they have press conferences for Jeff today and Fred tomorrow. Why aren’t they just laying low? I’m sure the players and coaches cant be happy about this.
  • Mr North Jersey February 16, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Jeff Wilpon spoke to the media today already.

    realdirtymets.com/2011/02/16/video-jeff-wilpon-makes-an-appearance-at-port-st-lucie/
• martin February 16, 2011 at 3:35 pm

  the game is on the field, this has nothing to do with it. you are letting the media dictate the agenda to you. baseball is abouut the game.
• alwaysnextyear February 16, 2011 at 3:59 pm

  once there are real baseball stories they will take precedence. Even the press must be tired of rehasing the same tired stuff, since really nothing new ever comes up. The players probably tune it all out anyway.

  besides, theses guys are used to having a swarm of annoying press types hanging around, and probably just pay little attention. Why should the current stuff be any more of a distraction than what they normally deal with?

  as to Annie’s post, you really think that the commissioner should somehow suspend the owners of a team, when they have not been proven to have done anything wrong? They are paying the bills, and MLB has not had to get involved with the team for that reason (not like Texas last year).

  and if Selig does do it, who exactly will step in to run in? and will they be spending the wilpons money, or MLBs?

  Sleig did get involved anyway, by brokering the deal to get Sandy in charge to clean up the organizational mess. The financial mess will sort itself out over time, but as long as they can cover the monthly nut, Selig has not right to get any more involved.
  • t agee February 16, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    If Selig did have to have MLB step in and run the Mets I hope he wouldn’t appoint the same GM that he did the last time that happened.
    • Harry C February 16, 2011 at 4:44 pm

      Of course you wouldn’t agee. How much do you enjoy hating on Minaya? Do you just hate him for your sick pleasures. Maybe you don’t like his accent? Maybe his heritage? I think not. Its just amental fixation. Kinda some sort of Stalking via the web. Your fixation on hating this man is very abnormal. You have serious problems. You need professional assistance. Very sad. Very sick.
      • tlagee February 16, 2011 at 6:23 pm

        Why bring Omar into this discussion? He’s gone. That’s yesterday’s news – time to move on.

        What we are dealing with today is the Perfect Storm. We have some real bad fincancial contracts and an ownership that is in financial trouble. The worst of both worlds. It may cost us Reyes which would be a shame.
    • t agee February 16, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      I don’t hate Omar at all. When Omar was hired and for a couple of years afterwards I said a million times that we finally hired the right guy.

      I believed him when he said “we’re gonna get younger and more athletic.”

      That didn’t happen.

      After a while every answer became throw money at old guys or closers and hope.

      He knew better but just fell into the old Wilpon idea of never planning ahead for anything. Never looking at the most realistic outcome, just the most optomistic one.

      Getting guys who are untradeable, trying to squeeze another year out of guys who are nearing or on their last legs. Only trying to fix THIS YEAR when he knew damn well there was nothing in the farm for him to work with when he got here.

      If you could ask him I guarantee you he would say he would do it differently if he had to do it all over again.

      I don’t hate his accent. I love going to the DR. I have a bunch of friends there. Been to many Weddings, funerals, Baptisims. I like the music, The DWL is a GREAT time. Watching the games in person down there is better than Christmas morning. Hanging out next to a colmado with a handful of Presidente’s is a blast. I even play ball when I go down there. Bring a dozen gloves, cleats, baseballs school supplies and give ‘em to the kids. Play Batia with ‘em. Beautiful People in the DR. Beaches, baseball, babes, beer and brugal. You cannot beat it. Brownouts, who cares the sun shines all the time.

      I do feel let down by Omar because I really believed in him. Maybe that is why I’m so angry about having to start all over again but mostly I am so sick of us replacing guys who are on their last contracts with other guys on their last contracts.

      A GM’s job is to build a team to compete for many years, not just hope to get one and crash.

      Omar knew how bad things were here when he arrived and could have recycled these unexpected good (and great) performances he got for younger guys who would be here for 5 years to buy time for the farm. He could have let some guys go, collect the picks, trade some of the guys he got unexpected great results from for younger hold the fort guys and not given away so many picks for guys who weren’t going to be part of the big picture. He also should have insisted we go over slot, take the issue out of the shadows and demand that we be able to draft the best talent, not the cheapest talent. He was the expert, he had the expertise. He was our best chance.

      But he caved in to the Wilpon business plan that is guaranteed to fail just like everyone else.
• Metsie February 17, 2011 at 10:56 am

  I don’t know annie, I have to say that it is not the fact the Wilpons are in a court case that keeps distracting people from the baseball part of it. It is blog posts like this that perpetuate the controversy not the fact that the Guys who own the mets have a court case that has nothing to do with the mets!

  It is not the Wilpons themselves that are forcing the Met players to talk about the lawsuit it is the bloggers and the Media that keep bringing it up.

  So you can’t complain about the wilpons causing a distraction that a post like is REALLY the cause of.

  You know why this story has legs at all?
  Because you (and not just you lots of people) keep talking about it!
  If you just let it play out and stick to conversations about the team and the players even the press would ignore it because they don’t write stories about things people don’t care about!

  If you owned a store and someone sued you should you have to sell the thing you make a living off of just to stop your employees from being distracted by your problems?

  I challenge anyone to put themselves in the place of the Wilpons and then think about how fair it would be if you were the one being sued!

  And don’t say well I’m a better person I wouldn’t get sued or put myself into position to get sued because anyone can sue you guilty or not. Thats why we have a court system to decide if the case has merit or not!

  And if the court decides this case has no merit then a lot of people who have posted on the subject will have maligned and castigated an innocent person. Which would make THEM way more unethical, unfair and evil as anything the Wilpons were accused of doing!

  If you don’t want Madoff to be a distraction then stop bringing and diverting everyone’s attention to it!