Comments on: The Battle For the Back End of the Rotation http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html Sun, 19 May 2013 23:13:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134944 METS62FAN Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:38:09 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134944 DONAL, I BELIEVE IN AN INTERVIEW ON “HOT STOVE” SHOW LAST NIGHT WALLY MENTIONED HE’D HAVE HAVENS IN AA THIS YR.

Hey, I thought this thread was about pitching competition, & as piching is what wins seasons it’s certainly more important than 2b circus whereby TC just unburied Tejada’s name from the AAA SS position & threw his uni in the ring @ 2B

Back to pitching, as I see it despite the health stamina concerns surrouding Young & Capuano; both would appear to be upgrades over their ROTATION PREDECESSORS,Maine & Perez, is the similarity in polarity mere couincidink? Maine, Young both RH, Perez,Capuano both LH? maintaining L/R balance in rotation, 2 RH, 2 LH 1 near ambidextrious with knuckler! Regardless who makes the “Fab 5″, I predict Dickey is leader in all major categories: ERA,Ks,Ws,WHIP,GS! and should have been named openner!

]]> By: Mr North Jersey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134660 Mr North Jersey Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:35:09 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134660 Here you go hattip to Hitman.

“furtherHey, hey! Collins praised Ruben Tejada this afternoon. He has an outside shot to be the Opening Day 2B, Collins said.”
http://twitter.com/Ledger_NYMets/statuses/40839475047170048

]]> By: alwaysnextyear http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134651 alwaysnextyear Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:13:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134651 there was a tweet that want by a little bit ago to that affect (something about collins being impressed by how Tejada looks stronger than last year).

but yeah, those early comments were part of a “big picture” overview of where things stood at the moment, and what assumptions they were working under at the time. All subject to change (well, Mejia probably not, but other than that).

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134641 Donal Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:01:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134641 I’m sure if he stays healthy and stays on course, we’ll see him by September 1

]]> By: Mr North Jersey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134637 Mr North Jersey Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:49:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134637 If Collins did indeed say that “Tejada not out of picture” (not that i am saying he didnt just that i havent seen him quoted yet) that goes to show that nothing said early is set in stone so ppl should relax more.

]]> By: Bayonne Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134634 Bayonne Mets Fan Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:34:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134634 Cerrone has said Emaus been looking a lot more comfortable on field than Murphy. I’ve said it 2, 615 times – Murphy will NOT be starting at 2B.

But he’s a class act and will be valuable to Mets off bench. I can imagine Murph pinchitting in big spot and getting clutch hits.

Next thing for me is to actually see Emaus play in game situations. I know most people disagree w/me but I still believe Tejada has shot, especially if he hits better..Collins said Tejada not out of picture and impressed with how much he’s worked out.
The games will tell.

]]> By: Metsr1 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134633 Metsr1 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:34:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134633 I would hope triple A, but my guess is double A. He is our best prospect at 2B, just hope he stays healthy all year and maybe get a September call up.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134630 Donal Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:29:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134630 Where is Havens starting the year?

]]> By: Metsr1 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134629 Metsr1 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:28:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134629 Touche. I will agree with the 2/24, but for the record, I can’t stand Castillo either. I never want to see him out there again. Just don’t want to see Murphy either. I will say this Donel and hope you would agree…the future Met starting second baseman isn’t on this years 40 man roster. I extend an olive branch!

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134613 Donal Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:59:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134613 “Hard work and hustle doesn’t field a ball up the middle.”

Neither does Castillo, in case you haven’t been watching the last few years.

“Strong defense up the middle is what every GM in baseball strives for. Ever wonder why?”

Because that is where the most balls go and is the most ground to cover.

“NO! I am afraid of what Johan will do when scrubby Murphy cost him another win ala the butcher job in LF.”

Which is why there is an ongoing competition. Although, I’m sure Johan will appreciate the extra run support Murphy would bring over Castillo.

“Emaus will win out”

He may. How about we wait a little longer than February 24th to make judgements?

]]> By: Metsr1 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134609 Metsr1 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:51:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134609 Hard work and hustle doesn’t field a ball up the middle. Strong defense up the middle is what every GM in baseball strives for. Ever wonder why? “Are you affraid the judges will take runs away from the Mets for style” NO! I am afraid of what Johan will do when scrubby Murphy cost him another win ala the butcher job in LF. Emaus will win out

]]> By: Metsr1 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134603 Metsr1 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:43:26 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134603 You are 100% correct my friend. I tried to make a point last week that Murphy is and always will be a hitter without a position. He has cement hands and zero athletic ability. He will be an absulute butcher if he played second base, yet people here love him over better players simply because he hustles, or works hard. Can’t wait to say I told you so!

]]> By: alwaysnextyear http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134590 alwaysnextyear Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:13:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134590 a very dark horse.

anyone that is signed to a MiL deal and can thus be stashed in Buffalo as emergency depth is going to really have to blow away the ML contract competition to win a spot.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134584 Metsie Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:01:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134584 I think you just made the case why Murphy’s fielding is going to be key to his making it as the starter.

Niese wasn’t inconsistent, He tired out late and most of his really bad implosions came on extended innings due to sloppy fielding and errors.

Pelfrey also sufferred from those as did every pitcher we had. Dickey’s worst game started with an error and snowballed on him.

That doesn’t mean Niese can’t regress and lose his spot in the rotation.
But he is not one of those you can say would be a failure if he did. Just means he needs more coaching as all guys who don’t have 5 years of ML experience do.

]]> By: Fooshnik http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134581 Fooshnik Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:53:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134581 The darker horse is Boof Bonser

]]> By: Mr North Jersey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134575 Mr North Jersey Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:45:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134575 The great thing is that the bloggers don’t have any say in who pitches where. The Mets decide that. When camp breaks we’ll see who they have slotted where to start the season.

I think most fans just feel the 3 most likely to make the team are Pelfrey, Dickey and Niese and of course when you look at those 3 names Niese ranks 3rd best among them but I don’t expect Niese to be the #3 starter if the Mets see that Young fits that slot better and frankly I don’t really care. I am just looking to see the best 5 make the rotation.

]]> By: Matt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134570 Matt Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:36:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134570 Based off of this article, it seems as though Niese has been anointed the Mets #3 starter by bloggers and fans alike, and the other 3 pitchers mentioned are battling for spots #4 and #5. Looking at Niese’s numbers, he is more of a #5 starter at best and by giving him a free pass to the #3 spot is more wishful thinking than anything else and it will probably hurt this team in the long run, unless Niese can find consistency, because up to now…he has not had much success as major league pitcher.

]]> By: Mr North Jersey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134566 Mr North Jersey Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:31:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134566 I think it’s fair to guess Niese does not consider himself a safe and established major leaguer. So as far as him feeling pressure goes I think it is fair to say he knows he can be sent down and replaced if he doesn’t perform up to snuff.

]]> By: Matt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134559 Matt Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:24:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134559 I couldn’t help but notice that the name “Jonathon Niese” did not appear at all in this article. Is that because he is homegrown talent and we, as Mets fans, generally, value our homegrown talent to be far better than they actually are? Jonathon Niese was very inconsistent last season. He had 8 starts where he gave up 5 or more ER and 4 other starts where he gave up 5 runs in a game…sure, in those 4 starts some of the runs were unearned, but had he been able to end an inning, those unearned runs may not have scored…therefore, he had 12 starts where his opponent scored 5 or more runs against him. His last 7 starts of the season were atrocious…38.2 IP, 41 runs (30 ER), 19 walks, 6 HR’s allowed. Plus, in 30 starts last season, he averaged only 5.7 IP. I like Niese, and I am rooting for him to do well, but I think we should not give him a free pass because we like him…he should feel a lot of pressure this season due to guys in AAA (Gee, Mejia, Harvey) knocking on the door to the majors, and when Johan comes back, if Capuano, Young, and Dickey are pitching well, Niese may find himself pitching in Buffalo.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/02/the-battle-for-the-back-end-of-the-rotation.html#comment-134555 Donal Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:17:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=45048#comment-134555 Aldreson is trading him for a 5’2″ 300lb short stop to replace Reyes.

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