Memo To Sandy: End Our Misery And Cut Him Already

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• K Maxx February 27, 2011 at 5:55 pm

  Dont blame Ollie, he is what he is. Blame Omar for giving him that contract and Alderson for letting his presence persist and undermine the team chemistry. But as you know saber people dont believe in chemistry.
  • tlagee February 27, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Yes, Omar did screw the pooch with his signing of Perez – worse yet, he compeated against himself on the salary. but I reckon some of the blame goes to Scott Borass who has the incredible ability of selling crap.

    Let’s face it, there was a time that Perez looked like he might get his act together – he didn’t – he was a terrible investment and its time to move on.
    • theonlymaskman February 28, 2011 at 9:51 am

      Don’t use the excuse of blaming Boras. A player’s agent has the mission of getting the best possible deal cut for his client. Blame the clown who fell for it and took the bait and competed only against himself in the process.
  • Pete February 27, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    I am not blaming Ollie. But I’ll tell you what, I spend at least a thousand dollars at Citifield every season. If Ollie is on the opening day Mets roster, I will not be spending one cent at Citifield this season. It’s your call Sandy. Smell the coffee. Are you any better than what came before you?
• Hitman February 27, 2011 at 6:12 pm

  “According to Andy Martino of the Daily News, Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen admitted today that Oliver Perez has until March 10th to prove he can compete for a spot in the starting rotation, otherwise the bullpen will be his best case scenario.”

  How bout they just stop beating around the bush and just cut his ass? I knew all this talk about his pitching & attitude changing was a load of manure. It’s obvious he cannot contribute at all in the rotation, the pen…hell, at the major league level! Just release him on March 10 when things get worse.
  • any February 27, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    best case in this case meant the best that HE can hope for. No way him being on the team can be best case for us!

    if anything right now there might be more competition for the pen. Too many guys to carry already, and if a few of the dark horses have good springs (Iggy, Izzy) even less room for Ollie. basically they would have to only have 6 guys that deserve it, and 1 dead spot.
  • theonlymaskman February 28, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Having a $13M mop-up man will be just a total embarrassment.
• DaveUpstateNY February 27, 2011 at 7:35 pm

  What will the “best case scenario” do? It will give him a bullpen spot for what purpose? They can pay him $12 million to suck wind and NOT help the team or pay him $12 million to sit home and fill his spot with someone who CAN help. Decisions decisions….
• Lou February 27, 2011 at 7:49 pm

  The reality is with Santana out and some questions with the other starters they are going to stay with Ollie until the fans riot at Citi Field a la the Wisconsin State House.
• baby al February 28, 2011 at 12:12 am

  the earth ollie perez stands on is a waste of earth.he should have been banished to the great abyss last year when he refused to go to the minors.if he were to be cut tomorrow it would be tooooo late.by his lack of action geniusalderson has proven he will cut perez when freddye wilponzie tells him to and not before!just as minaya before him geniusalderson does nothing without the wilpozie marching orders.perez is soooo terrible he still might be cut but before that happens freddye will drain every drop of blood from perez while he shreads every inch of honour from geniusalderson at the same time.as i have stated many times if FREDDYE WILPON PAYS YA HE PLAYS YA.
  • theonlymaskman February 28, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Only thing you said that I disagree with is “if FW pays ya he plays ya”. No he doesn’t necessarily play ya, instead all he does is carry ya on the roster. It’s up to the field manager to play ya and Collins won’t be doing that.
• jay'smets February 28, 2011 at 9:47 am

  Perez is the Live version of the Ponzi Scheme and Omar is Madoff in disguise.
• theonlymaskman February 28, 2011 at 10:01 am

  I view this Ollie situation as a test of the veracity of Alderson. Sandy is good at talkin’ the talk, but let’s see how he does at walkin’ the walk. If he is in control and his own man as he claims, then Ollie is gone. Will that actually happen? I say no. Sandy will bow to FW and carry him on the roster. Collins won’t play him except in games that are already completely shot to take on inning or two off some other arm that can actually pitch. We’re stuck with his load clogging up a roster spot. We will be going into the season with an effective roster of 24. This will reveal the lie of Sandy Alderson.
  • t agee February 28, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Manuel should have pitched Ollie last year. No hiding him in the bull pen. He was already down a roster spot with Carter taking up one. He should have pitched Ollie up here until he begged to go to Buffalo.
    • The Coop February 28, 2011 at 1:50 pm

      I liked that idea, but I’m not sure Ollie would have taken the bait and willingly took a trip to the minors…the funny thing is, Manuel alluded to a start against Halladay late in the season (august maybe?) shortly after that dude quit jetBlue and flew down the air slide? One of the best lines I saw on that was, I admire Manuel for it – this is what you give me? I give you Perez vs Halladay. Enjoy the game! It’s almost like taking two beers and jumping down the plane chute
• Hammer February 28, 2011 at 10:39 am

  Ollie said it was too sunny and he was a bit tired from the two weeks of spring training. Show him the door. Today!
  • The Coop February 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    I called him his own Monsieur Meursault. “The sun made me do it.” Whatever!
• 86mets February 28, 2011 at 10:47 am

  Here’s the problem as I see it: okay, Alderson has stated that Perez’ $12 million commitment will not prevent him being released if they need to. HOWEVER, given that the Mets had to borrow $25 million from MLB can they afford to cut Perez and his contract? What if they decide to cut both Perez AND Castillo? Can they afford to dump $18 million in the wake of their loan from MLB? Someone should ask Alderson AGAIN about this and see what he says. They had to have the money from MLB to make ends meet, so can they handle paying two players that much money who are not on the roster, or even just Perez? Just sayin’.
• Matt74 February 28, 2011 at 10:56 am

  I think it’s a little early to be getting on Alderson about Perez. I would want to at least see what he had a few times out before flushing that $12mil. Even the Mighty Buccos released Matt Morris a couple years back and had to pay him almost half of their payroll for the year (OK that’s a slight exaggeration).
  Although, the sad thing is, deep down inside, I truly beleive this loaf is going to be on the opening day roster.
• Satish Ram February 28, 2011 at 11:07 am

  Honestly, the Mets need to man up and cut him.
  I know the ideals of Alderson is probably to look to squeeze every bit of value of Perez (and his contract) that they can, but come on, just man up and cut the guy.

  He is a waste of a roster spot and his comments yesterday were borderline pathetic. The sun? Come on, Perez.
  • Satish Ram February 28, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I take back my previous statement about squeezing the value out of the contract.

    I read into his comments about cutting Edmonds at 6 million. Intriguing.
• alwaysnextyear February 28, 2011 at 11:20 am

  honest question here, since I don’t know how it works.

  When they cut a player and owe their salary, do they have to pay them in a lump sum (though that should be reduced to account for time value) right away, or do they continue to make the normal payments through the year?

  if they can keep paying him along the way, then there is absolutly no impact to the budget or cash flow (assuming he gets picked up for the minimum, and replaced by another minimum wage guy).
  • metsaddict77 February 28, 2011 at 11:43 am

    they’ll keep him on the team in the bullpen.the mets always make the wrong decision.the wilpons would rather lose with him, rather than just excepting the mistake and eat his contract.WILPONS DON’T CARE ABOUT WINNING.money is their only motivating factor.
    • any February 28, 2011 at 2:58 pm

      This makes no sense. Is there any possible way that they could make more money by keeping Ollie vs. letting him go? If anything, cutting him now might sell more tickets.

      And I think the fact that they are paying Omar to sit at home indicates that they recognized, and ate, mistakes already.
      • The Coop February 28, 2011 at 3:15 pm

        I’m not sure how it’s decided either, AlwaysNext, but we all know how they paid Bonilla. They also owed Kris Benson money, still do, although I have no idea why since they traded him (unless they assumed some of his salary on a deferred basis…still thought they didn’t owe him)…Point is, viewed in a vacuum, doing those deferred payments benefits everyone – the player is guaranteed money later, and the ownership can invest. Of course, given they have invested a load of that $$ with the Madoff funds according to reports, if they invested it wisely and with anyone else, it may have been a good deal…
  • t agee February 28, 2011 at 11:48 am

    They would continue to pay him the same way they had been, which happens to be spelled out in the contract between player and team.
    • any February 28, 2011 at 2:56 pm

      thanks. In that case, the cash flow crunch is not even relevant (you could see them not being able to pay the entire 12 up front, so being forced to keep him in that case).