[...]so? what does it mattter how many innings he pitched? If he shows he’s ready, and shows he’s the best guy for the job, should come up. Mejia has pitched in more minor league games than Zack Greinkie before he was called up – he turned out … ST…

if you simply read the thread fully rather than trying to be funny with your memory joke you would have seen you was misreading my comment.

Perhaps recycling using the same bricks with improved mortar i.e. scraping out the old mortar of Maine,Tatis,Cora,Dessens & the bucket od overused spare replacenment parts known as GMJ,Shefield,Jacobs.
Mixing up a fresh batch of mortar out of Young,Capuano,Hairston & a fresh bucket comprised of Isruinghausen,Bonser,Igarashi,Stoner,Tankersley,Hasrris.

No, this is different than the past 3 yrs when we automatically expanded the orig construction withy additions of Beltran,Delgado,Pedro,Wagner,Santana,K-Rod,Bay instead were surrounding them differently

Vinnie, in a year when even our own experts don’t envision contention; but competitivness, the sinmple question is
WHY TAKE THE RISK? What do u stand to gain? lose? & is it worth it?

Personally, though I consider your srguement viable,I still disagree with your conclusion.

I get that as a rule 5 he had to spend all of 2000 here, but after not pitching that well why 2001 as well?

Despite pitching well in 2002 he remained a spot starter/LOOGY in 2003 and didn’t become a full time starter until 2004 at 25 years of age.

Reading between the numbers it looks like Kelly and his pitching coach Dick Such were tutoring Santana and JC Romero while alternating their starts and bull pen work load. When Kelly and Such retired Santana went back down. Considering the way Kelly rode Brad Radke it’s lucky for Santana that he was spot started or he could have been finished at the same age as Radke was.

It would be interesting to hear what Santana had to say about his unusual development path but since Mejia is not a rule 5, doesn’t have to stay up here and would hopefully become a quality full time starting pitcher before the age at which Santana did (25) I don’t see why a full year of pitching in AAA wouldn’t work out the best for him and ultimately us after all Johan spent two ineffective years up here before finding his first success back in the minors and carrying it back here in the 2nd half of his 6th pro season.

If Mejia were to mirror that development that would put his eta as a good pitcher to the 2nd half of next year. I’d prefer to see him have a very good season in AAA, 4 good starts in September and compete next year for a starting spot knowing how to pitch.

So everyone shouldn’t be so worried about this “ruining his Mejia’s career” because pitchers have done this before and turned out fine.

It may look like rebuilding mode because of his lousy off season though. Some better starting pitching would put this team right into contention for WC.

A lineup of Reyes, Pagan, Wright, Bay, Beltran, Davis, & Thole is rebuilding mode?

Better pitching is all it needs.

I believe this team can contend this year, so we should bring up the the guys who give us the best chance of winning – we can’t worry about contracts and stuff now.

How do you know Mejia is a year behind? Did you sit down and talk with him? I heard someone say a little while ago on here that Mejia said he learned a lot the major league experience last season…..maybe he’s a year ahead? The whole experience last year could have been a GOOD thing for him.

Santana pitched in 54 minor league games before he was called up, Mejia has pitched in 56 as of right now, and that’s not counting the major league games he pitched in last year. My point is with Santana is that he pitched in the majors with less experience than Mejia has, and it didn’t ruin him……like you said bringing up Joba ruined him – Santana went on to win 2 CY Young awards.

I’m not saying Mejia SHOULD win the job, what I’m saying is he should be given a CHANCE to win it.

Once more, I realize mu masilbox will be deluged with those I’ve shocked & offended; to ALL of u I say bring it on. Bring your stats, leave your poor run support excuses in your pocket since significant run support is a requirement for journeymen likr Trachsel,Maine,Perez to succeed, not ACES!
i SUGGEST U COME READY TO DEFEND THE INNUMERABLE LEADS HE’S SURRENDERED! In my book, True ACES like Halladay & Sabbathia & in their Met heyday Seaver & “THE” Doc.
protect leads, no matter how small, like mothers protect their babies.
BTW ny absolutely no means do I wish to portend the talent levels of Santana & Pelfrey are in any way comparable; yet if we ALL agree Santana’s is the greater talent than how can anyone explain Pelfrey’s superior record against our most heated/hated rivals? Thus is the true definition in baseball terms of my initial Disappointment label for Johan’d forehead!

He was already on team last year so that’s a start. What if he’s a LOT better this year? What if he’s the same? We dont’ that yet do we? You don’t and I don’t.

Let them compete before deciding. You and I don’t know what he’s been working on this winter and who he’s been working with. Do you?

It’s not going to matter what he does in ST this year. The Mets only have 2 options left. They’re not going to bring him up until they’re pretty sure he’s ready, and that means watching him for a lot longer and against game-ready competition, not players whose primary goal is to work back into shape mentally and physically. Jerry and Omar blew his chance to come up this year when they traded his development for a chance to keep their jobs. Now, he’s basically a year behind. Plus, they can’t afford to roll the dice with him any more and take a chance on blowing another option year. ST isn’t about winning primarily, it’s about getting your baseball reflexes back after the off-season and prepping for a long season. Jennry’s going to school this year, working on his secondary pitches and learning more about the art of pitching. His secondary pitches needed work at the end of last season, and they still do. This is a good year for him to learn, because we’re basically in rebuilding mode.

And again as of this moment the Mets simply disagree.

___________________________________________________________________________________North if that’s from some imposter, u shoyuld know someone, for whatever reason is stealing your MMO identity…lol…’62

Let’s just how he performs in ST first before deciding whether he’s ready to come north or not.

Why is that so hard to understand? He may be ready & the coaches may feel “you know? He may be ready now” and bring him up.

If they feel he’s not ready then they’ll send him down, if they feel he’s improved from last year and is now ready to give the bigs another shot now..then they bring him up

Why is that so hard to grasp? Nobody is saying rush him.

Santana was 21 when he came to the majors, he had never pitched above A ball and pitched in LESS minor league games than Mejia. Zack greinke was 20, and also pitched in LESS minor league games than Mejia. Are they runied?

So, two pitchers around the same age as Mejia, and had less minor league experience both pitched in in the majors, and went on to be CY young award winners.

I don’t want him to be like Joba, i want him to be like Santan or Greinke lol.