Francesa: Mets Fans Should Be Cringing Right Now

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• Bayonne Mets Fan February 1, 2011 at 3:24 pm

  ….and truth.

  This Alderson guy may just be so consumed with his own intelligence and his very colorful use of words we may be celebrating his Harvard Education right through another dark period reminiscent of the early 90s/80s.

  Why should I think hope is on the horizon. A HORRIBLE offseason, NO incentive for the ticket buying fan to go buy plans WHATSOEVER. Just a cold, deliberate, & slow takeover of a team that had to make noise NOW! We have a competitor across town in case he doesn’t know it.

  You could build a farm system, make some BETTER moves to respect a good lineup he inherited, AND do something to excite fans to buy tickets. Alderson appears to have NO INTENTION of using any marketing skills whatsoever. Why should he? He’s a Harvard graduate and that means he’s smart in ALL aspects of life.

  BS.
  • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    You sound so defeated. You are basically giving up before the 1st pitch has even been thrown.

    I’m surprised cause you was one of those fans that said this team is better than people think and now you have no hope?

    Sad.
  • METS62FAN February 2, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Horrible offseason, Bayonne? Really? After Lee who was that talent u coveted & couldn’t get if u were GM? We needed pitching as did Cashman’s Yanks, once Lee opted to return to PHL, exactly what was the quality that was left? Let’s recount Yanks added Freddi Garcia & Bartolo Colon we added Chris Young & Chris Capuano, granted ALL 4 are questionmarks. Gone are Cora & Tatis replaced by Harris & Hairston. Personally for the $$$ allocated those are all more pronmising moves than we should have anticipated. I see improvements per se, is a rotation including Oliver Perez & John Maine as 4,5 superior or lesser to one featuring Chris Young & Chris Capuano as 4,5?
    Someone certainly needs to rebut the butt, Francesa, with his AL East-centric, myopic foresight with the 10 year average anual payroll for the Atlanta Braves being $98M with a high in’03 of 106,243,667 & a low in 1999 of $75,065,000.
    While I certainly do not anticipate the Royals,Pirates or Fish being models, I certainly believe an attempt at replicating the Atlanta model is doable & a payroll level between 110 & 120M would certainly be maintainable at a level consistantly higher than Atlanta’s as homasge to our market size & increased player’s tax burden. Once they establish more respectable onfield returns to produce more humming from those important turnstyles than a periodic foray into significant F/A acquisitions can be successfully accomplished much in the same vein as Atlanta’s addition of Lowe.

    I sincerely doubt extremely longterm high priced acquisitions like Beltran & Santana are to be considered by Alderson; but considering these payroll reductions a threat to retaining Reyes is ludicrous as Reyes & Beltran today command nearly 30M of the 140-150 payroll & it’s doubtful Beltran will return especially commanding top tier payroll level salary meaning assuming Beltran is allowed to depart that $30M investment can be nearly halved & still potentuially retain Reyes esp if backloaded as they’ve a propensity to do.

    I count myself fortunate in avoiding Francesa’s selfserving platitudinal concerns over Flushing’s fate since I’ve always contended his sole purpose is the agrandizement of his Yanks through the scullery detrimental comparisons to his imagined Met foibles. Living far outside the Metro area does have some perks; but very few, missing Francesa’s polluted opines, is only a significant one.
  • martin February 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    its too bad alderson hasnt played the game like bayonne. bayonna knows who the cuttoff man is on certain plays.
    • Chris February 2, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      lol. and somehow he also knows that Murphy can’t do it, never even having actually seen him play 2B.
      • francis February 2, 2011 at 7:51 pm

        lol, but murphy will probably be a below average fielder. watching a guy who hasn’t played second base since high school play first base gives you some idea. most of the league’s second basemen have been playing it forever, and it’s not like murphy is blessed with catlike reflexes. i hope he can be comparable to uggla in the field, but not counting on it.
      • METS62FAN February 3, 2011 at 8:58 am

        Chris, I’m suprised that no one, other than myself recognizes the inconsistancies surrounding Murphy in as much as he claims to have no LF experience prior to his ‘sink or swim’ MLB exposure. yet somehow I can’t help but recall an early MiLB report that cited a relatively unique rotating platoon system involving Murphy,Evans & Carp manning 1B,3B,LF on a rotational basis in Binghamton.
        The other complete incongruity that despite Murph’s claoims of early 2B exposure, the NYM Farm system while it’s servicing Parent Club desperately plugged 2B with a series of transients, never once attempted to make use of Murphy’s socalled experience suffering through his reportedly mediocre defensive abilities @ 3B despite not envisioning a need @ 3B in Flushibng for Murphy’s useful life as a player choosing to waste him entirely rather than potentially try him as a potential 2B solution.
        Someone correct me if I’m mistaken, I certainly don’t study Minor Leaguers as they so rerely matter in the NY MLB scheme of things; but didn’t Murphy experience to aborted 2B trials in Winterball & then while rehabbing in Minors last season? didn’t both trials end badly due to injuries endured while fielding? Are we actually considering otensibly playing a “tackle dummy” incapable of avoiding oncoming sliding runners?
        • XtreemIcon February 3, 2011 at 9:40 am

          62, to address your entire post, Murphy played exactly four games in left field in his minor league career, so I’m guessing the reported “unique rotating platoon” was mis-information.

          Secondly, his 2B trials in winter ball went well, according to the scouts there that saw him play, including scouts that aren’t affiliated with the Mets, so there can’t be a claim of bias. While playing second in the minors, however, he suffered a serious injury from what was reported as a “dirty slide.” This happens to major leaguers, too, and there were no reports of Murphy being unable to handle the runners attempting to take second, as opposed to his legs.
          • METS62FAN February 3, 2011 at 11:41 am

            X, thank you for information from a poster who’s opinion I’ve grown to respect & trust. I’ll sleep a tad easier for him @ 2B & with him @ 2B. Again , mt thanks for the timely explainations…’62
            • XtreemIcon February 3, 2011 at 11:47 am

              You’re welcome. I’m a fountain of knowledge. Drink from me.
              • METS62FAN February 3, 2011 at 11:51 am

                X, don’t get me wrong; but I believe u may have the wrong plumbing to quench my thirst…lol
              • XtreemIcon February 3, 2011 at 11:55 am

                So……..I’m guessing that comment wasn’t about baseball anymore?
• cdub February 1, 2011 at 3:28 pm

  Francesa can suck a fat one.
  • Rachel February 2, 2011 at 7:36 am

    I agree.
  • METS62FAN February 2, 2011 at 11:28 am

    BTW he is a FAT ONE!
• Pedro February 1, 2011 at 3:33 pm

  As I stated yesterday. Payroll on an annual basis is relative. Right now the Mets are paying Perez, Castillo , Matthews Jr. and Igorashi $21 mm for nothing. NOTHING! I’d dare say the payroll is significantly higher then anyone would like it to be considering only $120 mm is going to be productive. This is not to diminish the disaster the Wilpons have created for themsleves.

  Cringing is a strong word Fatso. The Middle East, the economy, the Obama administration. Now those are things to cringe about.
• gregga February 1, 2011 at 3:40 pm

  I have no idea why anyone would pay any mind to anything Francesa says.The guys is a loud mouthed blowhard who says provocative things so people will listen to his radio show.
  We all know the Wilpons have not done a great job as owners of this team, its old material. As a Met fan, I’m thrilled Sandy Alderson is here. I’m not cringing about anything.
  • Metstheory22 February 1, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    I agree on everything you said. Lets go Mets
    • sarge February 2, 2011 at 12:36 am

      Amen Gregga, Francessa has shown his distaste for anything not Yankee tinted so we should of not expected anything else.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan February 2, 2011 at 1:12 am

        But sarge WFAN’s hosts are mostly Mets fans. How many Yankee voices are on WFAN? It just so happens the star is a Yankee fan. Yes he does tweak our noses sometimes lol but when he’s serious he gives us his honest assessment of Mets situation and his honest opinions of what he would do to fix them

        His Mets relationship is entirely different than his Jets relationship. He gets along with Mets brass.
• Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 3:42 pm

  Thanks for the excerpts HoJo. I agree as a fan of his show I always admired how Francesa knows how to push fans buttons. It is one of the reasons some people love hating him.

  Of course you can expect the usual group to call in and eat this up just as Francesa wanted.

  What has Alderson said that is so blatant pie in the sky?

  That he thinks this team will be competetive?

  That he thinks Beltran and Reyes have an added incentive to play well in 2011 cause it is a free agent year?

  That he thinks Jason Bay will have a bounce back and healthy year?

  That he thinks Pagan has shown that he is an everyday player?

  That he expects Wright to continue to be the consistent player he has been?

  That he hopes to find a 2b among the candidates he has?

  That he is impressed with Ike Davis’s rookie year and looks forward to seeing him play in 2011?

  That he thinks Josh Thole is a everyday starting catcher?

  That he hopes to have Santana back in the rotation sometime in the 2nd half of season?

  That he think Pelfrey Dickey and Niese with a addition of Young and Capuano can be better than people think?

  That a bullpen that has KRod as it’s closer but lost Feliciano and Takahashi can still be competitive?

  What percentage of the above comments are so pie in the sky?

  Are not many Met fans in agreement that this team is a lot better than expected and they wish that Alderson had invested just a little more in adding better quality player?

  Look over the last 11 years the Mets have not once been lower than 6th in payroll and they have been 6th only twice in that span. In those 11 years they have 1 W.S. appearance which happens to be 1 of the 2 years they were 6th in payroll among MLB teams.

  The year the Phillies won the W.S. they werent even in the top 10 they were 12th. The Cubs for all their spending what do they have to show for it?

  I enjoy Francesa’s show and have been a fan from “DAY 1″ but Francesa is very good at pushing buttons don’t let him push yours.
  • Metstheory22 February 1, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    That is because Cashman has been able to cover his mistakes with more money, and he has made plenty. Johnson, Farnsworth to name a few.
    • Bayonne Mets Fan February 1, 2011 at 3:50 pm

      Every GMs moves are not perfect. How about rattling off his successes?

      Sounds like sour grapes to me.
      • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 3:56 pm

        I agree with you there Bayonne. To use money as a reason for Cashmen’s success is wrong. Just looking at the Mets will tell you it’s not about the money.
        • francis February 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm

          MNJ, i disagree. The Mets spent alot of money, but still only 60% of what the yankees spent.

          Imagine the Mets with an extra 90MM to spend per year. that 3 guys at 25MM per and a fourth guy at 15 MM per.

          you don’t think you could win one world series in 10 years spending 3 times the league average ?
          • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 5:09 pm

            I respect your right to disagree but the idea you can buy a W.S. is one I do not share.
            • francis February 1, 2011 at 5:29 pm

              mnj, i agree it doesn’t guarantee anything.

              i think if you start with the team he inherited and spend a lot more than everyone every year, the odds are in your favor.
              • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm

                it doesn’t guarantee anything, but if Sandy had been handed a blank check and signed Lee, Soriano and Crawford, the Met’s odds would probably be a tick higher.
      • Donal February 1, 2011 at 4:13 pm

        OK, what moves did Cashman make that you would consider successful?

        And I specifically said “Cashman” and not “the Yankees”. The Steibrenner family throwing a dump truck full of money at a guy is not a success for Cashman.
        • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 4:18 pm

          Any move he did the season they won the W.S. that helped them win is a successful move.
          • Donal February 1, 2011 at 4:20 pm

            But which moves were his? And which ones helped them?

            Was he responsible for trading for Rodriguez? Did he sign Povano? Giambi?

            Is a WS victory the only way to measure if a specific move was successful?
            • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 4:27 pm

              I dont really care to waste my time trying to explain what decisions Cashmen did that helped the Yankees win.

              If you feel he should get no credit then fine to each his own.
              • Donal February 1, 2011 at 4:35 pm

                What? I just want to get a metric here so we can agree on how to measure success.
              • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 4:38 pm

                You decide how you measure it and then go see if anything Cashmen did fits your criteria for success.
            • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:32 pm

              for cashman, picking up whats his name (the RF) for scraps was a great move. I wanted the mets to get him.

              and while I know this will freak out some here, a big reason was saber stuff (low BA but strong other numbers).
      • Metstheory22 February 1, 2011 at 5:14 pm

        Not trying to make it sourgrapes. Just the fact that he does and Mike Francesca making sound like he does not make mistakes. I agree, not every GM makes 100% moves. Not even when you win a World Series.
  • letsgomets February 1, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Maybe thats Aldersons problem his head is full with a bunch of crappy questions and no real answers?
• mets2012 February 1, 2011 at 3:54 pm

  “I don’t expect any financial situation will inhibit negotiations with Jose.”
  Way to go, Alderson. That is No 1 priority.
  The next one is trading away Wright.
  • Donal February 1, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Ya, because who needs a perennial All Star at a premium position?
    • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      unless you got someone like Longoria destroying AAA and demanding the job, you don’t trade your best player.
• tlagee February 1, 2011 at 4:45 pm

  Firstly, let me say that I don’t like or respect Francesa. He is a Yankee shill and has never been fond of the Mets.

  But,he has hit on some legitimate points. I too thought it strnage when Alserson mentioned the $140 million budget as being too high. Last year at this time the Mets trimmed 10 million off the budget and said they would use the money for flexability during the season – that never happened.

  Yes,some of Omar’s moves cost too much money and in some cases, like Castillo and Perez, he was bidding against himself. But he did get Dickey and a couple of others last year for good money that worked out.

  Spending money on ballplayers is always a crap shoot. Look at Bay. But in financial terms, it takes money to make money and the Mets have made it clear that they are heading in the opposite direction which is a cuase of concern for Mets fans.
• francis February 1, 2011 at 4:48 pm

  francesa is right about the significantly higher criticism. if the phillies are at 140MM, the mets ought to be at least at 120MM.

  given that the NY cost of living is 30% higher than the metro average, a 100MM budget is really like a 75MM dollar budget, which puts us in the bottom half of the league.

  ********

  on the other hand, that crap about cashman is pure suck up and not at all true. he may worry, but he wins because he spends 50% more than anyone and 3 times the league average.

  cashman’s only win as a GM came off of a $400MM spending spree on 3 guys.

  cashman’s record of series wins per dollar spent as GM must be the lowest of anyone who has ever won a series. the lowest. not even close.
  • Donal February 1, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Why do the Mets have to compete with the Phillies’ payroll? What if the Phillies are spending $140 million on $90 million worth of production?

    I’d be happy if they beat the Phillies on the baseball field.

    Should top dollar be avaiable if they need to spend it? Sure, I can agree to that.

    Does that mean they have to spend it? No, not at all. If there is a guy out there who will fulfill some major needs of the team ,by all means, get him. But don’t just write big checks to show off for the media.
    • francis February 1, 2011 at 5:15 pm

      they only have to compete with the philly payroll if they want players as good as theirs in the next 2 years.

      if they want to build the farm and roll the dice with the youngsters, they can do that too. but on balance, they’ll do worse spending 40% less.
      • Donal February 1, 2011 at 5:26 pm

        But what if Philly really isn’t that good? Why do people keep forgetting that Cliff Lee was pretty damn mediocre for the first 8 years of his career?

        they are short at least one outfielder, their short stop has been declining for years, their first baseman is over paid, and the bullpen has questions.

        Philly is really good, but not $140 million good. And remember who won the WS in 2010.

        Why roll the dice on a $15 million/year contract?
        • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:36 pm

          considering there payroll for 2011 is at least 165mill, they should be at least 140good!
      • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 5:28 pm

        The point is you don’t win a W.S. just because of payroll.

        In the last 11 years the team that won the W.S. was in the top 5 in payroll 4 times.

        In that same span teams not in the top 10 in payroll won the W.S. 5 times.

        Finally in that same time a team won the W.S. that were 7th and 9th in payroll.
        • francis February 1, 2011 at 5:31 pm

          over time, having the highest payroll gives you better odds than having the lowest payroll. I’m positive of that.
          • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 5:36 pm

            In the last 10 yrs the Mets have had a team payroll below 5th highest once. What better odds did they gain by it?
            • francis February 1, 2011 at 5:52 pm

              mnj, i’m not talking top 5. i’m talking top 1 and by a lot.

              being second best in bidding for cc, a-rod, tex, burnett, damon, matsui is as good as being last.
              • francis February 1, 2011 at 5:59 pm

                this might be heresy, but i actually would just like to see certain great players on the mets.

                there’s no guarantee that the red sox will do better than the mets with a lineup of ellsbury, crawford, youkilis, pedroia, a-gon, ortiz, and drew, and a staff of lester, beckett, buchholz, lackey, and dice-k, but uniforms aside, it would be alot more fun to see those guys in our uniforms than the other way around.
      • Chris February 1, 2011 at 7:19 pm

        I’m sorry I just cannot understand how people can equate payroll and winning while the two teams that were just in the world series COMBINED had the Mets payroll.

        It’s not payroll people, it’s farm system. Sandy is smart enough to realize this and that is why we are in fine shape for the future.
• srt February 1, 2011 at 4:58 pm

  I heard that Francesa rant this afternoon. I’m not even going to comment about the pot he tried to stir there with Met fans.

  Hard to take anything he says seriously when he followed that up with his take on all things Yankees. This I assumed he had to do b/c the phones were down at the time and no one could actually get through to piss and moan about all things Mets.

  He told Yankee fans to calm down about the Garcia signing – and the like. Said the Yankees right now are basically shopping at KMart. They’ll pick these guys up to try and get 5 wins out of them in the first part of the season then just release them. They’re only a bargain basement pickup until ‘Andy’ makes his decision or the kids are ready on the farm. If ‘Andy’ decides not to come back, the Yankees will just make some big blockbuster trade mid season for a top of the rotation pitcher. Said they’ve got plenty of great prospects – pitching/catchers – to make any trade needed. He then said they’ll be a lefty crosstown who might be ready – Johan. Said that trade would be a match made in heaven for both sides.

  Just repeating what runs through his mind and finds it’s way on the airwaves.
  • francis February 1, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    what did he say about losing cliff lee, carl crawford, and adrian gonzalez to the phils and red sox.

    cashman had the worst offseason ever.

    of course, they can still win with the 240MM budget, but the “on-paper” gap between them and the rest of the league was closed this year.
    • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm

      not that it matters, but they really don’t have a particularly impressive team for that much payroll.
• oldtimer February 1, 2011 at 5:00 pm

  Murphy 280/15/75 and Thole 290/60 rbi batting 7th and 8th. It’s going to be a good year!
  • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    yup. that Murphy production could probably just be labeled combined 2B with some sort of platoon, and it will be fine.
    • Des February 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm

      There’s no question that Murphy will hit but Reese Havens and other youngsters can too. Only Hu and Tejada need noticeable improvement offensively. That may come, but maybe not this year!!
• Donal February 1, 2011 at 5:08 pm

  So, who is the worst Yankee shill?

  Francessa?
  Heyman?
  Kay? I can actually forgive Kay. He is officially on the Yankee payroll. He’s a TV play by play guy (at least, what passes for one in that booth). He really doesn’t have to portray himself as a journalist with any sort of ethics.
  • happy little mets fans February 1, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    poor little doanl… he sits in his couch trmbling with fear because he really thinks the whole world is conspiring against his metsies and the poor little crook freddy wilpon. maybe if you wirte a nice letter to freddy he will let you in on his next ponzi scheme because you are so worrried the world is caving in on the poor little metsies. actually little mind problem donal, the world is just laughing at you and all the metsies. yous see they love you… you are the laughingstock of baseball…still and it looks like forever.
    SAVE THE WILPONS….. KEEP THE METS AMERICA’s JOKE!!!!!!!!
    • srt February 1, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      What? LOL…..
      • Donal February 1, 2011 at 5:28 pm

        I’d say something back, but it’s wrong to pick on the handicapped.
  • Des February 1, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Michael Kay is an inexcusable homer in my opinion. So too is Suzyn Waldman. On the national scene, Bob Carpenter is also a loose cannon homer. Each is occasionally entertaining, but they ruin it with their hack views.
    • Donal February 2, 2011 at 12:09 pm

      Waldman is just train wreck. How can she carry on as a “sports journalist” after that Roger Clemens fiasco? She can’t even call the game. At least Kay can do that in between fellating Yankee personell.
      • XtreemIcon February 2, 2011 at 12:28 pm

        RAWGAH IS IN GAWGES BAWX!!
        • Donal February 2, 2011 at 12:56 pm

          OH MOY GOODNESS GRASHUSH!LOOK AT ALL THE ESCITEMENT IN THE YANKEE DUBOUT! ANDY PETITE KNEW AND JORGE POSADA IS SMILING!
• jay'smets February 1, 2011 at 6:17 pm

  how does this looney even get to be on radio or tv.
• Rich O'Reilly February 1, 2011 at 7:04 pm

  I didn’t need Mike Francesa to have me thinking negatively about the Mets. Sandy Alderson was brought in for one reason… to run the Mets like a medium market franchise with a payroll in the 80 to 100 million dollar range. The clueless ownership of the Mets has been running this franchise like Camp Run Amuk since the Wilpons took over sole ownership in ’02. It hasn’t bottomed out yet, folks. Perhaps bankruptcy is now in the cards. What a mess. The Wilpons should gracefully sell the franchise. God, why wasn’t I born a Phillies fan…..
  • Bayonne Mets Fan February 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Yep,

    But if you read what people like Chris say – the franchise is in great shape! Already! The future looks GREAT!! Cheers!!

    fans like “Chris-types’ are the prototypical shills. Reading the things Chris says – he fits the profile of a follower that falls under the spells of charismatic cult leaders like Jim Jones or David Koresh. The only difference here is Sandy Alderson is wearing the long white robe. I don’t think a good disciple/follower/servant like Chris would DARE share his own beliefs for fear of punishment by the All-Mighty Omnipotent leader of the Cult – Sandy.
    • Chris February 1, 2011 at 7:47 pm

      if concentrating more on the draft and farm system than the payroll makes me a Sandy follower, then yes, I am a Sandy follower. Big time. how bout all the Jon Daniels and Brian Sabean followers Bayonne, got anything to say about them?
    • Mr North Jersey February 1, 2011 at 7:52 pm

      You know the only way to describe anyone comparing a fan following a baseball team and its new administration as the same as people that eventually died cause of Jim Jones or David Koresh can only be described with 1 word.

      IDIOT.
      • srt February 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm

        +1
    • Brian February 1, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      So giving a new GM wo has been on the job for about 90 days the benefit of the doubt, makes you part of a cult? You sound like a raving lunatic.
  • stick February 1, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    it’s not genetic. You can feel free to change your rooting interests at any time.

    Talk to the happy guy up above, he can give you the details on being just like him.
• Bob L February 1, 2011 at 7:44 pm

  Think about it: IF Alderson can develop the talent that Billy Beane has BUT on a ‘pro rate’ basis vis-a-vis a $140mm payroll with his sabermetrics voodoo applications…go for it Sandy…’cause we’ll be in the WS every year!
  • Chris February 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    but Bob, that is too logical for people to understand.
  • Donal February 2, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    I wouldn’t say every year. I’d be pretty happy if the Mets turned out like the Epstein led Red Sox. 2 WS wins in under a decade and perennial playoff contenders.
• stick February 1, 2011 at 7:50 pm

  why are some fans so obsessed with the owners and GM? Who cares. People pay money and tune in on TV to watch players play games, not to have some kind of owners Olympiad.

  the team on the field this year is improved. The prospects on the farm are getting a year to mature and develop. The organization is being rebuilt from the bottom up to better develop the talent. all these things are positives, and bode well for the future success of the team.

  yet some people only care about their obsessive campaign to degrade the GM, someone with decades of MLB experience and highly regarded in BB, even by the press (when hired).
  • Brian February 1, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Some fans, especially Bayonne are just insane. The Texas Rangers nearly won a world series all while going through a bankruptcy, scandal, borrowing money to pay the players from MLB, and eventually new owners this past season. Everyone should just relax.
• martin February 1, 2011 at 9:24 pm

  dont let francesa dictate to you what is news.that guy is an idiot. he makes money by riling up idiots.
• mets2012 February 2, 2011 at 2:18 am

  Look at this.
  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/02/sports/baseball/02mets.html?ref=sports

  Wilpons are Madoff. Wake up ,Idiots.
• Mike Silva's New York Baseball Digest » Blog Archive » Francesa’s Latest Agenda is Alderson February 2, 2011 at 7:23 am

  [...] Mets Merized Online has posted a transcript of a dialogue Francesa had during yesterday’s show. His main premise about Alderson is that Monday’s comments about payroll should make the fans cringe. He called Alderson “naive” because of his assessment of the team this offseason. Essentially, he called Alderson’s plan “pie in the sky.” Remember, this is the same talk show host that said you need “10 million dollars invested to have a quality bench” just a few years ago. How can the Mets bullpen be good without bringing in a $10 million dollar a year setup man? The Padres had one of the best bullpens in baseball last year and I am sure you remember all the big names they imported. [...]
• darth minaya February 2, 2011 at 8:27 am

  Everybody knew that when the Mets hired Alderson/DePo/Ricciardi, that the intention was they they were going to try and make “more” out of “less”. These dudes had some past success in building up competitive teams with reasonable payroll levels.

  Let’s at least give them a chance before complaining too much.

  Obviously, the Wilpons have serious, potentially catastrophic money issues, and if they are going to remain the principal ownership, these issues will be linked to the Mets…there’s no getting around that.
  • Metsie February 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    OK this is for all of those who think you need to spend 200 Million to win a WS.

    Name the two teams that appeared in the WS in 2010!

    Now how much did they pay to get there?

    ANSWER:

    Giants 97.5 Mil
    Texas 55.2 Mil

    Hmmm…Two teams who made the WS didn’t spend more than 153 Mil COMBINED!

    Yanks spent 206 Mil and didn’t get there!
    Boston spent 162 Mil and didn’t make it!
    Cubs spent 146 Mil and didn’t even get a sniff!
    Phillies spent 141 Mil and didn’t get there!
    We had the 5th highest payroll and didn’t even get within 5 games of the division!

    SO much for the spending big wins big theory eh?

    If Alderson gets out annual payroll down to 100 Mil with a team that shows as much competitive mojo as the Giants showed this year then because we are in a very large market we could afford to go buy 4 starting pitchers or another big bat to put that competitive team over the top!

    The Yankees and Phillies did just that! Yet it has yet to result in getting over that top for the Phils. and the Yanks are on the last dying legs now that the core that was saving them the big buck they could spend on free agents now cost more than what they could get to replace them in free agency. They overpaid jeter simply because of his homegrown and marketing value, not because he is helping them to win WS titles anymore.

    When you compare us to the giants we are not only overpaying by about 43 Mil we aren’t even getting as much as they get for the first 100 Mil.

    The Payroll needs to be cleared of waste, the Roster needs to be filled with a homegrown core that will not cost more than 80-90 Mil that can compete and then when that is done the Free Agent’s can be courted and signed to put that core over the top.

    This should be the plan, it was supposed to be the plan when Omar took over but as is the case whenever someone tries to stick to a plan in NYC, the Press and fans always complain and force them to change thier plan to please fans who obviously have no clue especially if they think spending 200 Mil leads to a WS when the Giants just won it!
    • Metstheory22 February 3, 2011 at 8:42 am

      Exactly, you do not need to Overspend to have a good team. That is what Alderson seems to want to do in future years. Spend correctly and have money when you need to get someone.
  • Metsie February 2, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Sorry Darth that was meant to be a post on it’s own not a reply to what you said…
• Ron Davis February 3, 2011 at 9:33 pm

  what i find two face on him besides his triple chin is when yankee fans call he tells them not to pick on the Mets worry about your own team why does he not take his own advise.