Comments on: Alderson Can Put His Stamp On The Mets By Trading For Francisco Liriano

By: sarge

sarge — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:33:12 +0000

Be very careful with pitchers coming off arm trouble, the Mets already have a Twins pitcher with arm troubles.
It would be nice but again, what is the status of our farm system, do we have to give up any of the “prospects” that would be called up if someone got hurt?
Things to think about.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:17:02 +0000

Yankees have 6 of BA’s top 100 prospects. After losing out on Lee and at the very least costing themselves a World Series appearance, your probably right.

By: Davidthemetsfan

Davidthemetsfan — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:54:18 +0000

Uhh.. the yankees farm system is ranked 9th with potential 4 superstars. Banuelos betances montero who is the number 3 prospect in ALL of baseball according to baseball america (I value their rankings a lot) and a stud catcher in gary sanchez. They can afford to give up a lot, Considering their payroll restrictions. Liriano will be a yankee.

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:40:20 +0000

Oberkfell is the bench coach.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:15:00 +0000

I guess but right now all this was just fun speculation to pass the time by.

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:11:21 +0000

Hey, they won a World Series with some of the guys in the Viola deal.

But the current FO is going to be very slow to answer Sandy’s call. Even if the Mets had enough pieces to make the trade happen, which I don’t think is the case.

By: Henry Rowengartner

Henry Rowengartner — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:08:37 +0000

You are free to write an article if you like instead of just being so critical of other writers. I mean if they let Pomes have some space, why no you?

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:06:47 +0000

Let’s see there was Viola then Santana and next on the list is Liriano?

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:04:48 +0000

He’s going to St. Louis or Cincinati.

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:03:56 +0000

The Yankees don’t have a deep enough farm system to do it. And Cashman doesn’t want to mortgage the future for one guy again. The Steinbrenners might over rule him, but that would only hurt the Yankees.

And I’m not sure that even if the Mets do have enough to get the trade done, Minnesota would be willing to deal another stud lefty to us. They got burned the last time.

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:00:35 +0000

I’ve told you this before about that argument. Its 6 of one half dozen of the other.

You want the Ks, BBs, and IPs? No problem. I can work out the rates from there.

If I give you the K/9 and BB/9 and the IP, you can do the same.

Nobody ever said Ks and BBs were outdated.

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:30:24 +0000

I don’t think their going to be as concerned with keeping him out of the AL this time around either. I wouldn’t even consider Mejia unless it was even up and even at that I’d rather bet on Mejia reaching his ceiling over six years than Liriano remaining at his for two.

By: alwaysnextyear

alwaysnextyear — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:17:04 +0000

not that much risk unless you sign him immediately to a LT extension. Otherwise, it is a 2 year commitment (possible 3 with arbitration).

By: alwaysnextyear

alwaysnextyear — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:15:09 +0000

IP is certainly important, so you know if he was durable.

But the total K and BB is not really needed, since you have the K and BB rates, saving the math. The raw numbers are really only important in relation to IP.

By: alwaysnextyear

alwaysnextyear — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:13:28 +0000

probably a good time to look under the hood (and I assume that he forgot to add the JUST before the because!)

if you are looking just at wins and ERA, then he is really just Mike Pelfrey (15 wins, 3.66 ERA)

By: alwaysnextyear

alwaysnextyear — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:11:16 +0000

factoring in his contract status (2 years of control), he is going to be expensive.

FIgure Mejia to start. Then F Mart and someone on the younger end. That might get the conversation to continue.

there is a huge difference here vs. santana. They don’t need to trade him now, since he can’t walk at the end of the year. If they don’t get an over the top offer, keep him, and try again next off season.

By: MetsMan86

MetsMan86 — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:17:39 +0000

High risk because of the injuries. High rewardbecause of the talent. He’ll probably be a Yankee though since they’re going to pull out all the stops to get a starter. But if the Yankees pass, would love to see this guy in a Mets uni

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:01:26 +0000

I know bayonne. Maybe Newenhaus, Carson, Niessen or Cohoon. Definitely not Flores, Tejada, Havens or Mejia, Familla, Urbina, Rodriguez, Harvey or Matz on the pitching end.

Keeping our high end prospects and adding to them is very important for our future with a choke hold being put on the cash and ultimately will serve us better than many of our higher priced acquisitions did.

But your right, I wouldn’t like to add that extra guy.

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:44:46 +0000

2009 was the only year he gave up a lot of HR’s even pitching in the Homerdome. He is primarily a GB strike out pitcher and gets his pop outs off the change up.

He neutralizes LHP very well, is dependent to some extent on his infield D but could even allow you to take a chance on playing Duda in RF once in a while.

Besides the additional recovery time from surgery one thing I noticed was he had lost a lot of weight last year. I’d like to know if he kept it off this off season.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:34:58 +0000

Gee & F-Mart for Liriano? I WISH..don’t think so though…try adding one more guy you don’t want to add, lol.