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		<title>By: Des</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-124085</link>
		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole forward looking positive emphasis is unwarranted.  He&#039;s got a long road to hoe, I think. Why the conditional releases if not to hype Santana&#039;s possibilities and influence Mets fans hopes and ticket sales? It&#039;s really a matter of emphasis, not legalistic sentences, and to me Johan the Warrior&#039;s possibilities are found only in a public relations release.

Godspeed, Johan!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole forward looking positive emphasis is unwarranted.  He&#8217;s got a long road to hoe, I think. Why the conditional releases if not to hype Santana&#8217;s possibilities and influence Mets fans hopes and ticket sales? It&#8217;s really a matter of emphasis, not legalistic sentences, and to me Johan the Warrior&#8217;s possibilities are found only in a public relations release.</p>
<p>Godspeed, Johan!!!</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-124054</link>
		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, did T&#039;agee take that picture during one of his Citi visits where he claims to see tumbleweeds. I can&#039;t help wondering if T is color blind or not perhaps going to Citi when the team is on the road,lol.

Sorry, T, couldn&#039;t bypass tweaking u a tad as I&#039;ve yet to watch a game where there&#039;s as much vacancy as some of the heads we encounter here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, did T&#8217;agee take that picture during one of his Citi visits where he claims to see tumbleweeds. I can&#8217;t help wondering if T is color blind or not perhaps going to Citi when the team is on the road,lol.</p>
<p>Sorry, T, couldn&#8217;t bypass tweaking u a tad as I&#8217;ve yet to watch a game where there&#8217;s as much vacancy as some of the heads we encounter here.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123694</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve seen this all before with Pedro Martinez and John Maine. Nothing to see here, move along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve seen this all before with Pedro Martinez and John Maine. Nothing to see here, move along.</p>
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		<title>By: SFloridaMetsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFloridaMetsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because he hasn&#039;t thrown yet, theres a setback? Really? He still has 5-6 months till June/July. He might want to finish rehabbing before he starts throwing. If he hasnt thrown by the middle to end of Feb, then people should worry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because he hasn&#8217;t thrown yet, theres a setback? Really? He still has 5-6 months till June/July. He might want to finish rehabbing before he starts throwing. If he hasnt thrown by the middle to end of Feb, then people should worry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123679</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol  my bad i see i already pasted that above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol  my bad i see i already pasted that above.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123678</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you read the rest of the article it also says that if Hu makes the team Hu will become the first player born in Taiwan to represent the Mets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read the rest of the article it also says that if Hu makes the team Hu will become the first player born in Taiwan to represent the Mets.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123677</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought you read the Adam Rubin artice link you posted in the shoutbox? It outlines why he got a press conference. let me add it here for you and in case anyone else is wondering why he got a press conference.

&quot;News conferences to introduce backup middle infielders are not the norm, but the Mets held such an event Wednesday at Citi Field. Of course, there was cultural significance, too.

Chin-lung Hu, who was acquired from the Los Angeles Dodgers on Dec. 27 for minor league left-hander Mike Antonini, is one of only six Taiwan-born players to have played in the major leagues. The others: Chin-Feng Chen, Hong-Chih Kuo, Fu-Te Ni, Chin-hui Tsao and Chien-Ming Wang.

Assuming he beats out Luis Hernandez for the backup middle infield role, which is the expectation, Hu will become the first player born in Taiwan to represent the Mets.&quot;

sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6061802&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=MLBHeadlines]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you read the Adam Rubin artice link you posted in the shoutbox? It outlines why he got a press conference. let me add it here for you and in case anyone else is wondering why he got a press conference.</p>
<p>&#8220;News conferences to introduce backup middle infielders are not the norm, but the Mets held such an event Wednesday at Citi Field. Of course, there was cultural significance, too.</p>
<p>Chin-lung Hu, who was acquired from the Los Angeles Dodgers on Dec. 27 for minor league left-hander Mike Antonini, is one of only six Taiwan-born players to have played in the major leagues. The others: Chin-Feng Chen, Hong-Chih Kuo, Fu-Te Ni, Chin-hui Tsao and Chien-Ming Wang.</p>
<p>Assuming he beats out Luis Hernandez for the backup middle infield role, which is the expectation, Hu will become the first player born in Taiwan to represent the Mets.&#8221;</p>
<p>sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6061802&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=MLBHeadlines</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell me about it.  The old regime would have him day to day on throwing full bullpen sessions.

     Anyone counting on getting anything substantial from Johan this year is just courting disappointment.

     Don&#039;t expect anything because not pitching for 9 months is going to take a a month or so to get back in it and by that time it&#039;s mid August at best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me about it.  The old regime would have him day to day on throwing full bullpen sessions.</p>
<p>     Anyone counting on getting anything substantial from Johan this year is just courting disappointment.</p>
<p>     Don&#8217;t expect anything because not pitching for 9 months is going to take a a month or so to get back in it and by that time it&#8217;s mid August at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123675</link>
		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is on SNY in the middle of January? Besides crappy writers yelling at each other?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is on SNY in the middle of January? Besides crappy writers yelling at each other?</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123674</link>
		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the introduction of Hu. Alderson was there and someone asked him directly. 

And don&#039;t forget that this in no way contradicts what we&#039;ve already been told.

Pitchers and catchers report Feb 14. Spring Training starts two weeks later. Plenty of time for Santana to start throwing.

Don&#039;t try and call someone dumb when it is your own reading comprehension that is failing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the introduction of Hu. Alderson was there and someone asked him directly. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget that this in no way contradicts what we&#8217;ve already been told.</p>
<p>Pitchers and catchers report Feb 14. Spring Training starts two weeks later. Plenty of time for Santana to start throwing.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try and call someone dumb when it is your own reading comprehension that is failing.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryG15</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/santana-still-not-throwing-setback.html#comment-123671</link>
		<dc:creator>JerryG15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My apologizes - I&#039;m out of the sand now, but I still don&#039;t believe it&#039;s time for wide spread panic.

&quot;To my knowledge, he&#039;s not throwing at this point,&quot; Alderson said. &quot;But again, that&#039;s his own decision and based on how he feels. I think the [physical therapists] recommended that he continue to do certain exercises, and when he feels like he&#039;s ready to toss, he will. He&#039;s medically cleared, but to my knowledge, he hasn&#039;t actually started throwing yet.&quot; 

So he hasn&#039;t ACTUALLY thrown a ball...........

&quot;With the hole that Santana&#039;s absence leaves in the club&#039;s 2011 rotation, it&#039;s likely the Mets will be keeping a close eye on his return date, but Alderson wasn&#039;t willing to speculate other than the club&#039;s previous rough target of June to July. 

&quot;I wouldn&#039;t try to kid you that any of us can accurately predict,&quot; Alderson said. &quot;And certainly adding or subtracting days from what is otherwise a pretty loose projection I think would be probably misleading on my part.&quot; 

In another shocking development - new regim not trying to give false hope and promises they can&#039;t keep.......not sure I can get used to that, I&#039;m so used to lies and fabrications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologizes &#8211; I&#8217;m out of the sand now, but I still don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s time for wide spread panic.</p>
<p>&#8220;To my knowledge, he&#8217;s not throwing at this point,&#8221; Alderson said. &#8220;But again, that&#8217;s his own decision and based on how he feels. I think the [physical therapists] recommended that he continue to do certain exercises, and when he feels like he&#8217;s ready to toss, he will. He&#8217;s medically cleared, but to my knowledge, he hasn&#8217;t actually started throwing yet.&#8221; </p>
<p>So he hasn&#8217;t ACTUALLY thrown a ball&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;With the hole that Santana&#8217;s absence leaves in the club&#8217;s 2011 rotation, it&#8217;s likely the Mets will be keeping a close eye on his return date, but Alderson wasn&#8217;t willing to speculate other than the club&#8217;s previous rough target of June to July. </p>
<p>&#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t try to kid you that any of us can accurately predict,&#8221; Alderson said. &#8220;And certainly adding or subtracting days from what is otherwise a pretty loose projection I think would be probably misleading on my part.&#8221; </p>
<p>In another shocking development &#8211; new regim not trying to give false hope and promises they can&#8217;t keep&#8230;&#8230;.not sure I can get used to that, I&#8217;m so used to lies and fabrications.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anybody know if SNY interrupted regularly scheduled programming to broadcast this event?

a career .191 hitter w/2 HRs, 17 RBIs gets a press conference]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know if SNY interrupted regularly scheduled programming to broadcast this event?</p>
<p>a career .191 hitter w/2 HRs, 17 RBIs gets a press conference</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you brain dead? Sandy Alderson announced this today in a press conference at Citi Field. You want back up? Get your head out of the sand first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you brain dead? Sandy Alderson announced this today in a press conference at Citi Field. You want back up? Get your head out of the sand first.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryG15</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryG15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another article, with no true back up to just cause panic during a long cold winter.   The arm chair doctors and GMs will come crawling out to jump on their soap box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another article, with no true back up to just cause panic during a long cold winter.   The arm chair doctors and GMs will come crawling out to jump on their soap box.</p>
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		<title>By: sarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG! Santana has not started throwing, the season is lost!
Calm down fellow Metsies, he will throw when it time and when physically able according to drs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! Santana has not started throwing, the season is lost!<br />
Calm down fellow Metsies, he will throw when it time and when physically able according to drs.</p>
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		<title>By: Squidoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squidoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh I thought it was an actual date. Would have been good news. Well saying your pitcher would begin throwing in january for almost two mmonths and then it doesnt happen, is by all accounts a setback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I thought it was an actual date. Would have been good news. Well saying your pitcher would begin throwing in january for almost two mmonths and then it doesnt happen, is by all accounts a setback.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, the Feb 5th was not a quote by a source it was me saying if it turns out that Santana pitches by that date which would be beyond the projected timframe of the end of January would anyone really have an issue with that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the Feb 5th was not a quote by a source it was me saying if it turns out that Santana pitches by that date which would be beyond the projected timframe of the end of January would anyone really have an issue with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Squidoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squidoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you read that Feb 5th date somehwere? If they said he starts throwing on Feb 5th than this is not a setback. As long as there&#039;s a date set it would suggest that santana feels comfortable throwing as do the Mets doctors, so no worries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read that Feb 5th date somehwere? If they said he starts throwing on Feb 5th than this is not a setback. As long as there&#8217;s a date set it would suggest that santana feels comfortable throwing as do the Mets doctors, so no worries.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand how announcing the start of Santana&#039;s rehab could possibly sell tickets?

People need to re-read the official Mets release.

&quot;NEW YORK -- Johan Santana visited Mets medical staff in New York this week and has been cleared to begin a rehab program &quot;which will have him throwing before the start of Spring Training,&quot; according to a team spokesman.&quot;

He was cleared to begin a rehab program &quot;which will have him throwing before the start of Spring Training,&quot;.


Today Rubin who does an excellent job following the Mets followed up by re-stating the following.

&quot;When the New York Mets announced Jan. 14 that Johan Santana was cleared to begin throwing, they left open a big range for when that activity would actually begin, only saying it was expected before spring training.&quot;

He then posted this quote from Alderson on his understanding of the situation.

&quot;To my knowledge, he&#039;s not throwing at this point,&quot; Alderson said. &quot;But, again, that&#039;s his own decision and based on how he feels. I think the [physical therapist] recommended that he continue to do certain exercises, and when he feels like he&#039;s ready to toss, he will. He&#039;s medically cleared, but to my knowledge he hasn&#039;t actually started throwing yet.&quot;

Santana still remains &quot;medically cleared&quot; to throw when he is ready. It was expected he would begin throwing by the end of January but if he instead starts throwing Feb 5th are people really going to have an issue with that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how announcing the start of Santana&#8217;s rehab could possibly sell tickets?</p>
<p>People need to re-read the official Mets release.</p>
<p>&#8220;NEW YORK &#8212; Johan Santana visited Mets medical staff in New York this week and has been cleared to begin a rehab program &#8220;which will have him throwing before the start of Spring Training,&#8221; according to a team spokesman.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was cleared to begin a rehab program &#8220;which will have him throwing before the start of Spring Training,&#8221;.</p>
<p>Today Rubin who does an excellent job following the Mets followed up by re-stating the following.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the New York Mets announced Jan. 14 that Johan Santana was cleared to begin throwing, they left open a big range for when that activity would actually begin, only saying it was expected before spring training.&#8221;</p>
<p>He then posted this quote from Alderson on his understanding of the situation.</p>
<p>&#8220;To my knowledge, he&#8217;s not throwing at this point,&#8221; Alderson said. &#8220;But, again, that&#8217;s his own decision and based on how he feels. I think the [physical therapist] recommended that he continue to do certain exercises, and when he feels like he&#8217;s ready to toss, he will. He&#8217;s medically cleared, but to my knowledge he hasn&#8217;t actually started throwing yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Santana still remains &#8220;medically cleared&#8221; to throw when he is ready. It was expected he would begin throwing by the end of January but if he instead starts throwing Feb 5th are people really going to have an issue with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Johan is a true warrior.  When I heard he was going to be throwing a few weeks ago, I wondered if it was another public relations release. Beyond a possible attempt to sell tickets, I don&#039;t know why the Mets do this.  It&#039;s insane.  Johan has a very serious injury and he needs time, not shortsighted marketing.

Originally I thought Johan would be back in full form for the 2012 season.  If he&#039;s used in 2011, it will be for testing and baseball conditioning.  I hope I&#039;m wrong, but I haven&#039;t seen anything yet that says so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Johan is a true warrior.  When I heard he was going to be throwing a few weeks ago, I wondered if it was another public relations release. Beyond a possible attempt to sell tickets, I don&#8217;t know why the Mets do this.  It&#8217;s insane.  Johan has a very serious injury and he needs time, not shortsighted marketing.</p>
<p>Originally I thought Johan would be back in full form for the 2012 season.  If he&#8217;s used in 2011, it will be for testing and baseball conditioning.  I hope I&#8217;m wrong, but I haven&#8217;t seen anything yet that says so.</p>
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