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2011
Santana Still Not Throwing, Setback?
An article by Craig Lerner
According to Andy McCullough of The Ledger via twitter, Joan Santana has yet to begin throwing.
To Sandy Alderson’s knowledge, Johan Santana has not begun throwing in his rehab program.
Only last month during an interview on WFAN and then again during a conference call with Mets bloggers, Alderson said he expected Johan Santana to begin a throwing program in January and expected him back around the All Star break.
With just a few days left to the month and Santana still not throwing, I wonder if he is going through some sort of a minor setback?
Two weeks ago, the Mets announced that Johan Santana had been cleared for throwing by doctors.
Johan Santana has been cleared by Mets doctors to begin a throwing program leading into spring training.
Santana underwent surgery in September to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder. He is not expected to be available to the Mets until June or July.
I don’t understand why he hasn’t begun any kind of throwing program or even soft tossing if he was cleared to do so on January 14th.
Santana went 11-9 with a 2.98 ERA in 29 starts last season. He was pulled from his final outing on Sept. 2 at Atlanta as a precaution after five innings because he was experiencing tightness. The team originally diagnosed it as a pectoral strain, but an MRI taken a week later, after the Mets returned to New York, revealed the anterior capsule strain.
While you think about that, here’s a shot of snowy Citi Field taken by Adam Rubin.
About the Author: Craig Lerner
I'm a data analyst and researcher for a leading news agency who loves life and is hooked on the Mets. I love following the Amateur Draft and have a particular fondness for the Mets Minor Leagues who I follow each day. Give me a cold beer, a summer day, and a Mets game, and I'm good to go.
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Does anyone care if “Joan” has thrown or not?? Is Joan on the US softball team or something? Just funning you Craig.
Is Joan Johan’s feminine alter ego?
…i’m done. I guess he is taking it slow, because a week of rehab this early may or may not help/hurt him. I’d love to hear stories of him throwing or doing some kind of routine by early-mid feb. This doesn’t concern me in terms of a setback.
I’d rather see Johan at 90% by July then Johan at 70% by June. Especially with his left arm being worth so much.
I think Johan is a true warrior. When I heard he was going to be throwing a few weeks ago, I wondered if it was another public relations release. Beyond a possible attempt to sell tickets, I don’t know why the Mets do this. It’s insane. Johan has a very serious injury and he needs time, not shortsighted marketing.
Originally I thought Johan would be back in full form for the 2012 season. If he’s used in 2011, it will be for testing and baseball conditioning. I hope I’m wrong, but I haven’t seen anything yet that says so.
I don’t understand how announcing the start of Santana’s rehab could possibly sell tickets?
People need to re-read the official Mets release.
“NEW YORK — Johan Santana visited Mets medical staff in New York this week and has been cleared to begin a rehab program “which will have him throwing before the start of Spring Training,” according to a team spokesman.”
He was cleared to begin a rehab program “which will have him throwing before the start of Spring Training,”.
Today Rubin who does an excellent job following the Mets followed up by re-stating the following.
“When the New York Mets announced Jan. 14 that Johan Santana was cleared to begin throwing, they left open a big range for when that activity would actually begin, only saying it was expected before spring training.”
He then posted this quote from Alderson on his understanding of the situation.
“To my knowledge, he’s not throwing at this point,” Alderson said. “But, again, that’s his own decision and based on how he feels. I think the [physical therapist] recommended that he continue to do certain exercises, and when he feels like he’s ready to toss, he will. He’s medically cleared, but to my knowledge he hasn’t actually started throwing yet.”
Santana still remains “medically cleared” to throw when he is ready. It was expected he would begin throwing by the end of January but if he instead starts throwing Feb 5th are people really going to have an issue with that?
Did you read that Feb 5th date somehwere? If they said he starts throwing on Feb 5th than this is not a setback. As long as there’s a date set it would suggest that santana feels comfortable throwing as do the Mets doctors, so no worries.
No, the Feb 5th was not a quote by a source it was me saying if it turns out that Santana pitches by that date which would be beyond the projected timframe of the end of January would anyone really have an issue with that?
Oh I thought it was an actual date. Would have been good news. Well saying your pitcher would begin throwing in january for almost two mmonths and then it doesnt happen, is by all accounts a setback.
The whole forward looking positive emphasis is unwarranted. He’s got a long road to hoe, I think. Why the conditional releases if not to hype Santana’s possibilities and influence Mets fans hopes and ticket sales? It’s really a matter of emphasis, not legalistic sentences, and to me Johan the Warrior’s possibilities are found only in a public relations release.
Godspeed, Johan!!!
OMG! Santana has not started throwing, the season is lost!
Calm down fellow Metsies, he will throw when it time and when physically able according to drs.
Yet another article, with no true back up to just cause panic during a long cold winter. The arm chair doctors and GMs will come crawling out to jump on their soap box.
Are you brain dead? Sandy Alderson announced this today in a press conference at Citi Field. You want back up? Get your head out of the sand first.
Does anybody know if SNY interrupted regularly scheduled programming to broadcast this event?
a career .191 hitter w/2 HRs, 17 RBIs gets a press conference
What is on SNY in the middle of January? Besides crappy writers yelling at each other?
I thought you read the Adam Rubin artice link you posted in the shoutbox? It outlines why he got a press conference. let me add it here for you and in case anyone else is wondering why he got a press conference.
“News conferences to introduce backup middle infielders are not the norm, but the Mets held such an event Wednesday at Citi Field. Of course, there was cultural significance, too.
Chin-lung Hu, who was acquired from the Los Angeles Dodgers on Dec. 27 for minor league left-hander Mike Antonini, is one of only six Taiwan-born players to have played in the major leagues. The others: Chin-Feng Chen, Hong-Chih Kuo, Fu-Te Ni, Chin-hui Tsao and Chien-Ming Wang.
Assuming he beats out Luis Hernandez for the backup middle infield role, which is the expectation, Hu will become the first player born in Taiwan to represent the Mets.”
sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6061802&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
If you read the rest of the article it also says that if Hu makes the team Hu will become the first player born in Taiwan to represent the Mets.
lol my bad i see i already pasted that above.
My apologizes – I’m out of the sand now, but I still don’t believe it’s time for wide spread panic.
“To my knowledge, he’s not throwing at this point,” Alderson said. “But again, that’s his own decision and based on how he feels. I think the [physical therapists] recommended that he continue to do certain exercises, and when he feels like he’s ready to toss, he will. He’s medically cleared, but to my knowledge, he hasn’t actually started throwing yet.”
So he hasn’t ACTUALLY thrown a ball………..
“With the hole that Santana’s absence leaves in the club’s 2011 rotation, it’s likely the Mets will be keeping a close eye on his return date, but Alderson wasn’t willing to speculate other than the club’s previous rough target of June to July.
“I wouldn’t try to kid you that any of us can accurately predict,” Alderson said. “And certainly adding or subtracting days from what is otherwise a pretty loose projection I think would be probably misleading on my part.”
In another shocking development – new regim not trying to give false hope and promises they can’t keep…….not sure I can get used to that, I’m so used to lies and fabrications.
Tell me about it. The old regime would have him day to day on throwing full bullpen sessions.
Anyone counting on getting anything substantial from Johan this year is just courting disappointment.
Don’t expect anything because not pitching for 9 months is going to take a a month or so to get back in it and by that time it’s mid August at best.
It was the introduction of Hu. Alderson was there and someone asked him directly.
And don’t forget that this in no way contradicts what we’ve already been told.
Pitchers and catchers report Feb 14. Spring Training starts two weeks later. Plenty of time for Santana to start throwing.
Don’t try and call someone dumb when it is your own reading comprehension that is failing.
Just because he hasn’t thrown yet, theres a setback? Really? He still has 5-6 months till June/July. He might want to finish rehabbing before he starts throwing. If he hasnt thrown by the middle to end of Feb, then people should worry.
We’ve seen this all before with Pedro Martinez and John Maine. Nothing to see here, move along.
Hey, did T’agee take that picture during one of his Citi visits where he claims to see tumbleweeds. I can’t help wondering if T is color blind or not perhaps going to Citi when the team is on the road,lol.
Sorry, T, couldn’t bypass tweaking u a tad as I’ve yet to watch a game where there’s as much vacancy as some of the heads we encounter here.