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2011
Nationals Not In Running For Chris Young
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Updated January 15th, 8:55AM EST
Sources tell MLB.com’s William Ladson that the report saying the Nationals are interested in Chris Young are “not true”. Earlier this week, it was reported that the Nationals were the other team, besides the Mets, who are interested in Chris Youngs services. This means the Mets are the lone wolf in the running for Chris Young. Or is there a yet unknown team in the mix that is keeping this marriage from going through?
Original Post at 9:38PM EST
According to ESPN’s Buster Olney via Twitter, Chris Young is nearing a decision on where he will pitch next season. The Mets, and now the Nationals, are the teams that are interested in Chris Young’s services.
The Mets have had interest in Chris Young since the Winter Meetings began. The main interest factor is the relationship Chris Young has with both Paul DePodesta and Sandy Alderson.
The Mets to me are the perfect fit. I’m not saying that only because the Mets need more starting pitching, but because Citi Field would be the perfect ballpark for Chris Young to succeed because he is mainly a fly-ball pitcher. It seems like a perfect match.
About the Author: Brandon Butler
Brandon is currently a MMO Minor League Staff Writer. He is also the co-host of the Mets Madness Podcast on Talkshoe Radio. Brandon lives in Hornell, NY.
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Yes Young please decide already.
Here’s a thought. If Young signs with the Mets, who gets DFA’d?
it is starting to get to be an interesting question now. Possibly Hernandez.
unless they want to do a favor for all the blogs and generate hits by doing castillo or ollie.
Why wouldn’t they do Ollie and Castillo? If someone takes them, great, if not they can send them to Minors. Last year, Ollie refused to accept an assignment, but if he clears waivers, he’d have no choice, right?
THey are veterans, and have no options, so they can’t be sent to the minors. If they are waived, and no one claims them (and that is about the only guarantee we have in life, no one will!), they will then become free agents. Any team can sign them for the minimum, and the mets will be on the hook for the rest of their salaries.
that is why they are hanging onto them, on the off chance they can get some value back (possibly on the field, more likely hoping to trade for a couple of bodies or minimal salary relief).
Why would they have to DFA anyone? Can’t they just put Santana on the 60 day DL for now? Not like he’s going to be back anywhere near the first half.
After 60 days, you reevaluate the rotation at that point. There’s bound to be at least one injury and/or one guy slated for the rotation or BP that didn’t work out.
There is no 60 day dl in the offseason.
That’s a pretty good question. There is no way Young would take a minor league deal, no way.
This is definitely interesting. I don’t really believe the Mets will DFA someone. If they do, that will surprise me abit.
Brandon, they have to. They already have 40 men on the roster. That’s why they DFA’d Igarashi with 39 guys on the roster when they signed Capuano and T-Buch.
Problem is, no one else on the team has a contract quite like Igarashi (owed $1.75 mil) and didn’t really earn it last year. Igarashi, at least, probably won’t be claimed due to the money and can still come to Spring Training with the Mets. I can’t see that possibility with anyone else on the roster.
But as far as I know, the Mets haven’t put Igarashi through waivers yet, so maybe some team will claim him and the Mets will pay $1.3 mil for him to pitch elsewhere.
That was news to me. I guess you are right. They will have to do something.
get young hes perfect for citifield and would really make our staff solid while we wait for johan to return pelfrey young dickey niese and capuano or gee is more than fine with me until johan comes back.
I wouldn’t say Young is “perfect” but I’m hoping that he can at least go 20-25 starts should he sign with the Mets. After reading up that his medical records doesn’t look great and he’s willing to accept less than $2 million, I’m a bit hesistant.
going with the rehab rotation to me means to expect to use more guys. So if it takes 3 of them at 20 GS each to get your required 60 GS from the 2 rotation spots, no problem.
sign young. johan needs company on the dl.
I think Young is more talented then Francis. I am more afraid of Young’s health though. It seems like he can’t pitch for a whole season.
If the Nats are out why havent the Mets signed him yet? Francis and Webb are already gone, are we gonna low ball Young and lose him too like we did the others? Also, what is this nonsense that the Mets like Young because he’s smart and from Princeton? I read this yesterday from Ricciardi and for the life of me why would his schooling have anything to do with the decision to sign any player? Very weird.
maybe they just want someone to counteract Ollie’s compete lack of pitching smarts?
but you are right. being “book smart” or whatever a princeton guy brings to the table is not really required to be a good pitcher.
Nice to see that the current regime isn’t going to bid against themselves for free agents… For those asking “Why haven’t the Mets just signed him yet?”, I can only think it’s because we’re learning from previous mistakes (i.e. Oliver Perez) and not negotiating against ourselves.
Are you kidding? This is the worst start I can remember for any Mets GM since Al Harazin but with Harazin nobody would know his first season signings would turn bad at the time anyway. You conveniently chose one of Omar’s worst decisions even though in his first off season as Mets GM he signed Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltran!
You can dissect those signings any way you want but at least it was an attempt to improve a team that was already starting to contend.
Alderson may have less money to work with than Minaya but I think he also could have spent a little more, not a LOT, but a little more to help improve the contending nucleus he already inherited. According to Adam Rubin, who I believe, Alderson is choosing not to spend more. Terrible job so far! He’s LOST ticket sales not increased them and that’s no way for GM to start.
And if these guys are so smart like they’re good soldiers kept saying they are then why are thier moves so far so bad or so marginal for the most part? Also it’s mid-January and still no trades????
Bayonne,
Care to be proven wrong… again?
“Are you kidding? This is the worst start I can remember for any Mets GM since Al Harazin”
Aren’t you the guy who loves Steve Phillips? Care to tell me what Phillips did to make you foam at the mouth for the 1998 season?
Phillips took over in July of 1997.
He didn’t make a noticeable free agent signing or trade until February of 1998 with Leiter (which he traded AJ Burnett away by the way) and then May of 98 was his 1 big moment when he acquired Piazza.
So from August 97 – Feb 98… what did Phillips do BETTER than Sandy Alderson has done since October 29th, 2010?
Can’t wait to hear this
And Phillips ALSO had the luxury of being a hire from within so he had spent an entire season + PRIOR to being promoted watching the very team he would later take over.
Unlike Alderson who is coming in totally foreign to the Mets farm system and roster makeup and won’t see a single game played for his first 7 months as GM… Phillips saw a game played the day before, and the day after and then for 3 months after.
Like we all knew what Jason Bay was capable back then. What a load of bull. Steve Phillips also acquired Robin Ventura and traded only after he hit around .230. You’re knocking Steve Phillips for entertaining the idea of trading Wright? That’s nice – well it never happened did it.
You, as usual, conveniently left out Phillips acquiring of Leiter, Zeile, Turk Wendell, John Olerud, Dennis Cook, Heath Bell, Melvin Mora, Roger Cedeno (first time around) Armando Benitez (very effective his first year), Mike Hampton, Steve Trachsel (did a good job here for the most part), Cliff Floyd. Yes he re-acquired Bobby Bonilla but traded Mel Rojas to get him.
I originally put this post in the wrong section – thus the double post, sorry folks.
Steve Phillips and Frank Cashen are the 2 best GMs in Mets history. Fact.
Bayonne,
Prove me wrong
Show me Steve Phillips’ moves from August 1, 1997 to January 15, 1998
and then show me Sandy Alderson’s from October 30, 2010 to January 15, 2011.
Show me how you can say “This is the worst start I can remember for any Mets GM since Al Harazin”
Show me. Please provide stats for the 2011 Mets season as well. Specifically for guys like Capuano, Emaus, Hu, Paulino, Tankersley, Bucholtz, Carrasco, and Bonser.
You do that, and I’ll show you Rich Becker, Hector Mercado, Dennis Cook, John Hudek, Yuri Sanchez, Masato Yoshii all acquired from August 97 to Feb 98 by Steve Phillips.
4 months of work coming in with no previous knowledge of the franchise’s roster compared to 7 months of work from a guy who was promoted from within.
Show me Bayonne. Please. I can’t wait to see this.
Oh and as I stated earlier. Many of those players you listed were acquired via free agency much later into Phillips’ tenure.
Can you please tell me who Alderson will sign in 2014?
Phillips also didn’t trade for Olerud.
I’m not denying Phillips did some good things over his 5+ years as GM. But you’re evaluating him much later after you’ve seen all of his work progress. You’re evaluating Alderson in 4 months.
And Alderson has attempted to do more for the Mets in his first 4 months, than Phillips did in 7. Fact.
Why are you knocking Steve Phillips? It was the only time we had back to back division titles and we went to the World Series. You can knock Omar or Harazin, but why would you knock Phillips, personal issues aside?
You’re just saying Sandy needs more time, I’m saying Phillips would have made an impact already.
This is all about all the broohaha and the raving and the excuses and the allmighty bowing the saber crowd is giving their leader – I’m saying hold on people because Sandy has some big shoes to fill here.
That’s what this is about.
“I’m saying Phillips would have made an impact already.”
Sure he would have but you don’t know if his impact would be good or bad so again what’s the point?
You might as well add Cashen’s name to the mix or M. Donald Grant it would get the same result. One big what if scenario that will in the end never prove nothing more than thast you have a low opinion of Alderson.
Heck Duquette’s name could be thrown in as well. Why not? Maybe he will have done better also cause in the end who knows right?
Pls….
phillips would have resigned for getting caught trying to nail the first snook-alike he saw in the administrative office.
francis,
So you brought up Johan Santana’s legal issues before for no reason and now you bring up Steve Phillip’s past troubles for which he sought help and is now marketable again.
If this is an attempt at humor, it’s not funny.
I meant to ask you why you brought Santana’s past problems in post which was about the news of him throwing again? Why did you feel you needed to bring that up?
I think that was a sucky thing to do to be honest.
i brought up the case because a) if the case is still being pursued, it could actually interfere with his ability to play baseball ( trial, jail time ); and b) if he did it, i’m not rooting for him.
and i asked it as a question, because i was unsure of the status of the case. if it’s dropped for good, then it’s no big deal to me, but that’s why i asked.
as for phillips, he’s a mess and lost his last job over it, so that’s also relevant.
why don’t you go back to your day job, heckling the muppets ?
Wow Francis you showed your age with that Muppets comment.
The hecklers were called “Statler and Waldorf”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I
i should actually apologize to them. they were crabby, but at least they were funny.
He is completely ignoring the fact that at the time, getting Letier was akin to getting Cliff Lee today. Leiter became the heart and sould of the 99 and 00 teams and you could say the ace of the team. With that one move he put his stamp on the team prior to his first spring training as a GM.
Right Squiddo,
I forgot about that = good call. Not only is it about the talent that Steve Phillips acquired it’s also about the TYPE OF COMPETITORS he acquired as well.
Saying Phillips was one of 2 of the best GMs ever for the Mets is like saying Mark Sanchez is 1 of the 2 best Jets QBs ever. If you don’t have a lot of choices its not difficult to make the claim.
I really don’t care about Phillips’ tenure, because its 2011. Bayonne, you said we need a GM who makes trades like Phillips did. I can prove to you that he made just as many poor trades as he made good ones and you also are declaring a need for a GM like Phillips after 4 months of Alderson.
The fact you say Phillips would’ve done more in 4 months than Alderson has is simply NOT true.
The proof? Phillips did LESS from October – Feb in his time as GM than Alderson has. That’s a fact. You can’t say otherwise because you don’t know how any of Alderson’s moves will work out and the best thing Phillips did in the same time period was acquire Dennis Cook.
Phillips also worked within the Mets front office and had knowledge of every single player within their entire system. Alderson has not.
You credit Phillips because you look BACK on his moves and you appreciate them yet you criticize Alderson for 4 months of work
Read this again,
You’re just saying Sandy needs more time, I’m saying Phillips would have made an impact already.
This is all about all the broohaha and the raving and the excuses and the allmighty bowing the saber crowd is giving their leader – I’m saying hold on people because Sandy has some big shoes to fill here.
That’s what this is about.
jessep it’s all about human nature – something you know nothing about because you’re too busy just reading the words.
“I’m saying hold on people because Sandy has some big shoes to fill here.”
But Bay your not holding on your slamming the Gm undeservedly imo based on 4 months worth of moves when clearly you nor anyone has any idea what the end result is based on these moves?
Don’t you find that a bit hypocritical?
Bayonne, What are your thoughts on what Omar would have been doing this off season if he was still here?
I’ll venture a guess. Melky would have been high on his list. Probably mid November, well before the non tenders, rule 5′s came out.
Carlos Lee would have been 2nd because of his power, slugging and proven RBI production.
Skip Schumacher at 2m with a vesting option for another 2 at back up middle infielder.
Starting pitching? Well we discovered a technique flaw in Ollie and we think he’ll be alright.
Bayonne,
“I’m saying Phillips would have made an impact already.”
Rich Becker 49G, .190 AVG, .331OBP, 3HR, 10RBI
Hector Mercado DNP
Dennis Cook, 73G, 2.38 ERA, 68IP, 8-4
John Hudek, 28G, 4.00 ERA, 27IP, 1-4
Yuri Sanchez DNP
Masato Yoshii, 29GS, 12-8, 4.40ERA
That is what Phillips did in a longer period of time running the team than you’ve given Alderson
Just for your knowledge
Chris Capuano 0GS
Brad Emaus 0G
Hu 0G
Paulino 0G
Tankersley 0G
Bucholtz 0G
Carrasco 0G
Bonser 0G
agee,
I’m betting that he would have brought on Bobby Valentine as manager. In my opinion we needed a change in the way we played the game more than a GM change. I don’t know what moves he would have made but I’m pretty sure he would not be making Sandy’s move w/one exception – I can imagine Omar signing Capuano but that’s just a pure guess on my part.
Bayonne,
I don’t thin Bobby would have worked for Omar. Bobby wants some control over the makeup of the roster, a lot like Bellichek in the NFL. He wants guys who can do things he want to have at his disposal.
The roster’s kind of disjointed and top heavy in salary. I don’t know that Bobby would have thought he could work within the framework.
I do think that Bobby could have helped immeasurably in assembling a more coherent roster and helped out in avoiding some of the mistakes we made.
Omar AND Bobby from the beginning might have been a pretty good combination.
Whoever it was Murphy, Devine Whitey or whoever signed all those talented young players before there was a draft and then after it was instituted was our best GM ever.
Collective effort, one guy who knows but Seaver Koosman, Ryan, McGraw, Jones, McAnndrew, Harrelson. Smart trades for Grote, Agee, Clendennon, Cardwell, Taylor. Smart platoons with Weiss, Boswell, Kranepool. Then retooling with Matlack, Millan, Milner, Staub, Garrett.
To be a Met Fan in those days was to be in very capable hands.
You’ll be waiting a loooooonnnnnggggggg time before you get a response to that one.
Brace yourself for accusations of twisting, spinning, going off topic, not sticking to the point, lying, jumping around, not knowing the language or being called names.
When you have to use arguments like this is the worst 1st 4 months in Mets history you are as some say “throwing in everything “AND” the kitchen sink” to make sometime of case.
What that case is? That 1 person who hates the GM just because he is associated with a book is in “HIS OPINION” the Mets all time worst 1st 4 month gm ever.
I am just fine with that cause last I looked it’s about how you finish that will be important so time will tell.
should say “make some type of case.”
Yesterday it was about how great Minaya was today its about Phillips can’t wait to see who the GM Flavor of the day will be tomorrow.
Yesterday: Minaya Mocha Cherry
Today: Phillips Berry Heaven
Tomorrow: Cashen Nutty Buddy???
How many flavors will they come up with?
fire cherry is my flavor. i asked for it for the last 2 years.