I’m tired of this whole steroid issue.

I can’t say one is equal to the other so therefore the media are making themselves look foolish now in how they view those that took roids.

They may be the same technically but the impact greenies as opposed to Roids had on the game are vastly different in my opinion. I had this discussion with Jessep I believe once and I think he may disagree with me on this but still in my opinion I just see the 2 as being vastly different.

I don’t know anyone that would even consider putting part of a total stranger in a syringe, injecting them self in the ass then lying to Congress and risking prosecution and loss of freedom. Not even close to the same thing.

They are about as similar as Mario Mendoza is to Barry Bonds.

The “greenie” culture in baseball was a reaction to the drinking culture and the expanded travel schedule. A pick me up, like 5 hour energy or red bull. To equate that with injecting substances purchased in gyms, bars and shipped over from Mexico and the DR is ridiculous. Human growth hormone (part of another human being) something Joseph Mengele would be interested in experimenting with. Steroids for use on animals. Letting (asking) your personal trainer to inject your wife. Sick s**t X.

The players reactions themselves highlight the difference between the two things. On one hand they freely talked about it, on the other hand they risked prosecution and their very freedom in order to lie about it.

Not the same thing, not even close.

Nobody in this whole mess is without fault but it’s MLB and Bud Selig’s responsibility to settle this and he’s been punting the ball for years and it doesn’t look like it’s going to change anytime soon.

The only morality issue the writers are putting into question is their own, not the game’s. What does that say about writer X who voted for Nolan Ryan and won’t vote for Roger Clemens? Clemens is undoubtedly a hall of famer based on numbes alone, but if the writer doesn’t vote for Clemens because someone said he took steroids (remember, he never failed a test), how is that different from when he voted for Ryan, another guy who played in a PED era who also has no evidence of taking anything, just the era in which he played.

When the writers flip-flop sides of the story and arguments, they’re just as culpable as MLB, who didn’t care one iota those years ago and all of a sudden in 2004 decided steroids were a disgrace and started testing more strictly and punishing further those who tested positive.

I agree with t agee that there was enough blame to go around and the crux of it lay in Bud Seligs hands. Money was and is the bottom line and like Sandy Alderson says “Chicks dig the longball” and they generate revenue.

The fact is MLB chose to have one of their own in Selig run the show instead of looking to a neutral person who isn’t financially tied or sympathetic to any of the teams.

The idea that Selig as Comissioner is looking to “protect” the sanctity and honor of the game is hilarious. It’s all about money.

They knew back in 1995 and did NOTHING.

I remember reading about “greenies” back in the 1970′s. That wasn’t even close to being a secret. The only similarity those two things have in common is that you have to first have the talent for them to make any difference at all. It’s like comparing apples to apes.

And again, they weren’t a secret. I read about them many times in books written about baseball and by baseball players as a twelve year old.

No one risked incarceration by lying under oath about “greenies.” They were a well known part of the game. No comparison.

It wasn’t a beat writer who exposed McGwire’s casually strewn about little helper. It was a national columnist for the AP. The focus the shifted to Sosa’s cute little bottle of Flinstone vitamins, everyone had a good laugh and life when on unchanged, unexamined. Why? access. The beat writers then ganged up on THEIR collegue. How’s that for “journalism”?

I can understand X’s claim of hypocracy to some degree but when every group within the Industry is striking out looking then how can you only complain about the one’s who’s job is TO report on the Industry who happen to be the only one’s whose livelihood would be threatend by the disclosure it becomes a little unfair.

Basses juiced no one out, Bud and the owners whiff, the union whiffs and the press whiff’s and it’s only the press’ fault. Their the only hypocrites?

Pardon me if you’ve heard this before but the Commissioner’s job is to preserve the integrity of the game. Epic catastrophic failure Bud Selig.

T Agee said it right there.

What we think of the journalists is besides the point.

You cannot tell me that people who were in baseball for 50 years didn’t see things that didn’t look right to them. Please, give me a break.

No it shouldn’t have been left to the “journalists” when the hierarchy of the industry stood by and looked the other way while counting the cash, but they could have. One of them could have stepped up, actually done a little “journalism” rather than hanging on every word a demi god chose to utter in their direction. But no, We heard about the baseballs were being made in Haiti now and maple bats are much harder and Camden Yards is a HR hitters delight.

The whole era was a fraud and because of looking the other way we now have these other issues because of it.

To blame only the “journalists” who would have lost their access and therefore their ability to do their job, would be wrong when the players, union, owners, medical staffs, “personal trainers” and everyone else involved in MLB including the Commissioner all looked the other way would be wrong but then again they are, or were holding themselves out to be journalists.