Mets Officially Announce Chris Young Deal

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• Mr North Jersey January 19, 2011 at 9:07 pm

  I shouldn’t hold my breath for Castillo being cut huh?
• t agee January 19, 2011 at 9:18 pm

  At least he was GIVEN a physical unlike Putz who was well known to have an elbow problem and in fact was on injury rehab the year before.

  If Omar hadn’t have been in such a hurry to “win the off season” we might not have given away Jason Vargas a 28 year old, under team control for 3 more years, LHP who pitched to a 3.78 ERA last year in 31 starts.
  • Mr North Jersey January 19, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Amazin how that went down with Putz.
  • XtreemIcon January 19, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Omar is the career leader in “offseason” wins.
  • ReyesAdvocate January 20, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    t agee, what Vargas did last year was a complete fluke. He was garbage for us. I was sooo happy to see him traded. And yes the Putz thing was a disaster
    • t agee January 20, 2011 at 1:07 pm

      Fluke? Product of pitching in a big park with a great D behind him? Possibly but why COULDN’T he have done the same thing for us?

      The fact is Omar gave Seattle anything they wanted and the primary piece they wanted wasn’t even coming from us, it was coming from Cleveland. (Guttirez) We handed over two players and five prospects. Green was a downgrade from Smith and Reed was a CLEAR downgrade for Endy. Carp was depth at 1B which as it turns out we could have used, Cleto didn’t pan out but Vargas did at least for one year and I would have preferred not to trade the young pitcher and as it turns out we certainly could have used that young pitcher. He at the very least would have prevented us from losing Darren O’Day in order to start Figgy and if we had Smith, who had options we could have gone that route too.

      If we didn’t have to pay Putz’s 5.5 Mil for 29 IP w/5.22 ERA and buyout maybe we wouldn’t have dumped Wagner and the two high draft choices we gave to Boston and maybe we would finally have drafted someone capable of filling RF or 2B for us for a change.

      Vargas may never be Tommy John, or maybe he will. We won’t know for a while but he certainly turned out to be a better keep than another young LHP we gave 36 million to and there was no reason to include him along with everyone else we shipped out for a pitcher everyone knew was hurt and then not even bother to give him a physical and then ask him to pitch through it and not say anything to the media about the injury and to let him pitch in the WBC before the season even started.

      Trading young pitchers for relief pitchers is not a wise move on it’s own. Trading 7 players including a young starter for an injured relief pitcher is the very definition of inept.
• 86mets January 19, 2011 at 10:11 pm

  So what Young passed a physical with the Mets. This is the same medical staff that mis-diagnosed Jose Reyes’ “calf” injury, were at the center of Carlos Beltran’s “Knee-gate” controversy, and allowed Jason Bay to board an airplane after suffering a concussion. With a resume like that, there is NO way that THIS medical staff could POSSIBLY miss something on a simple physical, right? LOL
  • JerryG15 January 20, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Are you a doctor?
    • 86mets January 20, 2011 at 10:13 am

      No, but how many other ML teams were willing to guarantee Young a Major League contract outside of the Mets? And how can anyone completely trust this medical staff after all the mistakes and misdiagnosis they’ve made over the past 3 years? Chris Young may have passed his “physical”, but so did Kelvim Escobar last winter who was coming off an injury marred 2009 season. I doubt Young will contribute very much, if anything to the Mets in 2011. 3 straight years of various shoulder maladies have to be a red flag. Although I do not consider the contract itself to be a serious risk for the Mets financially, I think in the end that it won’t yield much reward either.
      • METS62FAN January 20, 2011 at 11:47 am

        86, do u know what the Gnats’ offer was? I don’t & haven’t seen it published anywhere else; but if we’ve any luck at all he’ll add the ‘y’ behind his first initial’C’ & earn his max 4.5M

        Realisticly, 86, he’s the John Maine replacement not the Cliff Lee alternative. In the rotation that’s underperformed these past 3 yrs as I see it stalwarts Maine & Perez are being replaced/upgraded by Young/Capuano, I certaINLY TRUST WE’LL BE THE BETTER FOR IT.
        • 86mets January 20, 2011 at 11:55 am

          I certainly HOPE Young is healthy. But given that he’s never pitched more than 180 innings in any HEALTHY year + 3 years of various injuries, including the shoulder, makes me pessimistic about his likely contributions in 2011. I do not disagree with the terms of the contract, but am thinking more along the lines of low risk, low reward for the Mets here. It would be a shock to me if Young gives the Mets 125 or more innings in 2011.
          • Mr North Jersey January 20, 2011 at 12:03 pm

            I can understand what your saying but on the other hand wouldn’t you agree it’s more about the quality of the innings than the amount?
            • Metsie January 20, 2011 at 12:19 pm

              I would agree with that statement MNJ!

              In our current condition that is the way to be thinking.

              If the guy can give us 5 or 6 quality innings per start that should carry us early in the season, enough to get us to the trading deadline and possible return of Santana where option will open up to improve that pitching slot.

              It costs us little so even if Young is a bust there is little downside to the signing.

              And if it happens to be that he can not give us enough innings (and quality Innings) as a starter we always have the option of sending him to the pen where one or two innings is all you really need from him.
            • 86mets January 20, 2011 at 3:28 pm

              Point well taken. I just hope he is healthy so we can find out.
              • Mr North Jersey January 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm

                Agreed
          • ReyesAdvocate January 20, 2011 at 12:51 pm

            A healthy Young, hell, a somewhat healthy Young and Capuano pose a much bigger threat to the League than Maine and Perez.
• Bayonne Mets Fan January 20, 2011 at 1:56 pm

  The Nats signed Ching Ming Wang for 1 million, similar contract to Young. I think that’s a better gamble would have preferred that.
  • alwaysnextyear January 20, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    except he did not pitch at all last year, after a much more significant injury. I would be shocked if Wang could pass a physical with the expectation that he can join the rotation anywhere near opening day.

    If anything, Wang signing was exactly like signing Escobar last year.
  • Seligman January 20, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    How is that a better gamble? Yang has yet to come back since his procedure? Young came back and was lights out in September. Plus Young had TJ surgery which is now easire to come back from, Wang had capsular surgery which is not. Just ask mark Prior. Young was barely a gamble at all. It’s a great signing.
    • francis January 20, 2011 at 4:47 pm

      hey seligman, what kind of surgery did johan have ?
      • alwaysnextyear January 20, 2011 at 4:57 pm

        Johan had “full” (not arthroscopic) surgery, actually similar to what Wang had.

        And Seligman, Young had arthroscopic shoulder surgery, not TJ. Capuano had TJ surgery (actually twice, he must be running out of spare tendons at this point).
        • Mr North Jersey January 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm

          Some of you might know of this site already but I find it usefull at times when looking at player injuries.

          Chris Young
          baseballinjurytool.com/playerresult.php?eliasID=432934

          Chris Capuano
          baseballinjurytool.com/playerresult.php?eliasID=425626
        • Des January 20, 2011 at 6:06 pm

          I don’t think Johan will be returning to his old form anytime soon. But lets hope for his eventual return.
• Des January 20, 2011 at 6:04 pm

  Along with Cots Contracts, Baseball Injury Tool should be on every fan’s list of sites. Thanks.