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Will you pay him 8 Mil a season?

If yes then congratulations you just got a .900 OPS guy with one at bat to his name!

Good Luck with that singular narrow minded way to judge players!

The numbers aren’t as important if you do not know WHY and HOW he got those numbers.

Cause if the idea is to evaluate talent you have to know what different traits to look for when the player has NO stats because he is coming out of college and or the Minors.

Those stats are virtually meaningless since they can’t be weighted to what they will face in the ML.

Scouting and mental makeup of a players is most important. The numbers are only useful to determine if the player is using those qualities to best advantage and to show areas where the talent could be used to improve those numbers.

It is YOU who can’t read the chart correctly…

What percentage of hits is represented by the Red?

What percentage is left?

Which is the higher number?

Get a clue dude!

Of course FAT pitches are usually hit so pitches in that area are going to be hit EVEN by BAD HITTERS!

The good hitters don’t need a pitch down broadway to get a hit!

So they do their BEST work on pitches that are on the edges of the strikezone. And if you bothered to look at Pujols’ graph you would see he is dangerous if you throw him on the outer half of the plate!

But thats enough Sunday School for idiots for one day!

a team of Mannys and Zambranos with K-Rods in the pen beats a team of model citizens with great leaderships qualities who can’t hit or pitch. That is not debatable.

this is a game of numbers. always has been. always will be. If they’re good people and good leaders, even better.

For example, I value stats, but for Dickey, I’m just so impressed by the person that the “he’s only had one good year” arguments just don’t hold any ground for me.

And Cliff Floyd. He wasn’t a world beater, but the effect his presence had on this team was undeniable.

Leadership IS important, it’s just not “pay Alex Cora $2 million” important.

just sayin.

My take on WHIP, SLG, OBP and things like that – they’re better to use in conversation but when actually talking about a ballplayer, when you REALLY want to know who you’re talking about, when you really want to KNOW – the breakdown is better.

It’s been better for 150+ years. We just have toys in the 21st century and we gotta use ‘em.

But the Abbreviation Age has some merits, yes. It’s for people who feel they need to say things quicker, that’s all.

My problem is I’m still VERY interested in the actual human being and what the player specifically does. Just a “general idea” doesn’t cut it for me.

Otherwise: damn near useless.

But what do I expect from a guy who needs 18 walks and an error to score 10 runs because OBP is the be all and end all of RS!

LOL Sorry sonny but you need to go back to the little childrens dinner table, your not ready to asrgue with the grownups!

Your basically as bad as some say Bayonne is only extremist on the other side!

Just like no one vehicle is perfect for every situation (except perhaps the old “any car”) Personally I look at both. I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t, but if they don’t want to it doesn’t bother me in the least.

Walks and hits given up per inning is a useful stat but inherent in anything is context.

Whip looks good, you whip over to IP. No different than BA looks good you whip over to AB’s. Without context neither stat has any value.

The funniest thing to me is how non stat related discussions break down along the same lines as stat related ones do.

Democrats never acknowledge a good Republican idea and Republicans never acknowledge a good Democratic idea, even when it’s not about politics.

A large percentage of this stat argument reminds me of the old CNN show, Pointless – Counter pointless.

In life there are ballplayers and there are statisticians. If your bringing statistics into every single discussion, regardless of which side you favor, you are a statistician.

LOLOLOL.

Especially when the argument is about what is virtually the SAME stat only one shows the math and the other doesn’t!

On topic, I am so happy we made this signing. Not a lot of money (somewhere near what Takahashi wanted) but for a guy who was a much better starter.

I hope the guy makes all his incentives because in only a year he impressed me not only with his play but his attitude!

The guy has SMARTS and thats always a good thing to have in a pitcher!