31
2011
Mets Announce 2-Year Deal With R.A. Dickey
An article by Craig Lerner
Post Updated 1/31 4:20 PM
The New York Mets today announced that they have signed righthanded pitcher R.A. Dickey to a two-year contract with a club option for 2013.
Dickey compiled a 11-9 record in 2010 and finished seventh in the National League with a 2.84 ERA. He became the first pitcher in team history to go 6-0 in his first seven starts and tossed the 35th one-hitter in franchise history on August 13 at Citi Field to beat the Philadelphia Phillies, 1-0. The only hit he allowed was a sixth-inning single by pitcher Cole Hamels.
“R.A. had a breakthrough season for our organization last year, meriting this new contract,” said Mets General Manager Sandy Alderson. “We expect R.A. to be a major part of our success going forward.”
Dickey, 36, had his contract selected from Buffalo (AAA) of the International League on May 19. The Nashville, TN native set career highs in wins, starts (26), innings (174.1) strikeouts (104) and complete games (two).
The Mets have now reached agreements with two of the three players who were eligible for salary arbitration. The team signed Mike Pelfrey to a one-year contract on January 18, while outfielder Angel Pagan has yet to reach an agreement.
From Mets Press Release
Original Post 1/28 11:00 PM
The Mets and R.A. Dickey have avoided arbitration and agreed to a two-year deal according to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News via Twitter. The deal also includes a club option for a third season.
Andy Martino just added via Twitter that the deal is worth $7.5 million dollars over two years and also includes incentives and a team option for a third year.
The contract is pending a physical which has been scheduled for Monday.
This will cover Dickey’s final arbitration season and at least his first year of free agency.
When when arbitration figures were exchanged last Tuesday, Dickey requested $4.7 million and the Mets countered with $3.35 million. On Monday, Alderson said he was not ruling out a multi-year deal for Dickey, and it’s nice to see the two sides come to an agreement.
Dickey, 35, had a phenomenal season in 2010 for the Mets and emerged as on of the leaders in the clubhouse. He went 11-9 and posted a 2.84 ERA with a 1.19 WHIP over 174 1/3 innings last season, over 26 games started. He struck out 104 batters while walking 42.
This is certainly some good news on what has been a pretty drab day for the Mets and their fans.
About the Author: Craig Lerner
I'm a data analyst and researcher for a leading news agency who loves life and is hooked on the Mets. I love following the Amateur Draft and have a particular fondness for the Mets Minor Leagues who I follow each day. Give me a cold beer, a summer day, and a Mets game, and I'm good to go.
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More specifically Dickey struck out 104 in that 174 1/3 innings and walked only 42. Not bad control for a knuckleballer.
That’s for the people who prefer the traditional stats, which tell the better story. I had no idea his control was that good..and for a knuckleballer?
Oh, and by the way his record was 11-9
putting up a whip of less than 1.2 is pretty good for any SP, never mind a knuckleballer.
Your aware that Bayonne doesn’t really care to know that bit of intel right?
well stick,
42 walks in 174 innings is especially good for a knuckleballer. Most people know that and I KNOW you know it too.
Let me see,
A.) 42 walks in 174 innings
or
B.} 1.19 WHIP
In scenario (A) I need two pieces of data to understand how good his control was.
In scenario (B) I need one piece of data to understand how good his control was.
Which to pick?
plus you have to do math.
whats better, 42 in 172, or 63 in 248?
see, you need a calculator to tell.
I actually prefer to have it presented as BB/9 and K/9. saves doing the math, and without the math, you can’t compare 2 guys. Or really know how good it is!
OK,
That’s enough!!!
wow mister stick… aren’t you aembarrassed to publicly tell the world how dumb you are…. ewhat a little metsie you are.. can’t do math and proud of that….. well, maybe when you grow up you can beer at the park, oh wait you can’t…need to do math to give change….wouldn’t qualify!!! guess metsies are all elentary school drop outs. Wow.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Coming from a lowlife troll that obviously has never stepped foot in school one day. How do you even read the crap you write, have you ever spelled a word correctly or constructed a sentence in English?
you really have a problem with the grey stuff between your ears jersey. little metsies should be in ecstasy over the big multi year contract given to dickey, but an idiot like you would rather show how arrogant little metsies behave at the best, fighting with their own. you are special jesery…the perfect example of the little metsie that makes all of america happy the mets suck just … inteelligent little metsies like bayonne donm’t deserve the riff raf like you that seem to surround this hapless and pitiful club.
I assume you’re a Phillies fan? How many Championships do they have since 1883? The same as the Mets do since 1962. Hapless and Pitiful? How about no Championships from 1883 – 1979?
Here what Baseball-Almanac.com had to say about them:
“The Philadelphia Phillies are the longest standing same-named, same-city team in American professional sports, having been born to the National League in 1883. Unfortunately for them, longevity does not constitute greatness. In fact, the Phillies have been dogged by bad management, poor players and general ineptness for almost the entire span of their long history, so much so that they have lost more games than any other American professional sports team.”
Go Troll somewhere else.
“inteelligent little metsies like bayonne”?
OK now I know it’s easy for anyone to create a number of aliases here and comment but if your going to mock the Mets but by the same token call Bayonne a “int-ee-lligent little metsie” I am going to have to “START” wondering if your really just possibly Bayonne trying to pull a fast one.
In any event if your not I am sure Bayonne will quickly ask you to not mention his name as I am sure he being a Mets fan would be disgusted at all your anti-Met commentary you provide here due to your inferiority complex your suffering from at the hands of the Mets.
Maybe the Lee’s of Arkansas wanted to sign with the Phillies because of the school system. After reading Happy’s hieroglypics I can see why.
Bayonne, intelligent?
he’s certainly a lot smarter than you little chrissy. your next intelligent post will be your first…..
it really is sad for you that the other philly fans couldn’t even put up with you at Beerleaguer.
Actaully the WHIP statistic tells you nothing about the breakdown between walks and hits. If you’re interest is in control, you want to focus on the walks aspect. WHIP doesn’t allow you to do that. So as a single number as a measure of control, it doesn’t fit your claim.
control is not just about walks. If you have lousy control and miss over the fat part of the plate, you tend to give up a lot of hits.
you whould have known his control was good by looking at his WHIP if you were not retarded.
I was still working on the post while it was up Bayonne, the record is now up. I will have his FIP and xERA as well as ERA+ in a few moments.
Ouch! Your hunting for bear too i see.
That’s okay, you won’t need that stuff – the IP, H, BB, K. W-L, & ERA will be just fine. The people will know all they need to know with that – they know what park he pitched in already and things like that.
Maybe road and home splits could help too?
Man, you knuckleheads are just too much. Can’t the Mets make a single move without it immediately becoming a discussion about stats. Who gives a fiddlers ****. The point is we signed RA Dickey and have him for 2 years or 3 if we want. This is exactly what I was hoping for.
I’m sure that some of Alderson’s hold the fort guys will work out and and some won’t. I like the thinking behind Paulino, Emaus, Capuano and Carrasco but this is the kind of move that tells me the Mets, even with the budget as high as it’s ever been and mounting financial problems, are going to be keeping the future in mind with decisions they make for this years team.
Getting RA for 2 and a club option for a 3rd is a fantastic move and one that really gives me hope that we’re going to spend in a smart and reasonable way when it makes sense to do so.
I am very happy with this signing. Good job.
Here here! LOL
Especially when the argument is about what is virtually the SAME stat only one shows the math and the other doesn’t!
On topic, I am so happy we made this signing. Not a lot of money (somewhere near what Takahashi wanted) but for a guy who was a much better starter.
I hope the guy makes all his incentives because in only a year he impressed me not only with his play but his attitude!
The guy has SMARTS and thats always a good thing to have in a pitcher!
W-L for a pitcher is damn near useless unless that record is 22-1 or 2-19.
Otherwise: damn near useless.
ok My 2 Cents on WHIP vs WALKs…
NEITHER tells you about the guy’s control. Control is the pitchers ability to put the ball where he wants.
You can have a high K low Walk season and not be good at throwing strikes!
All that requires is batters swinging and missing!
WHIP is good for comparing Pitchers with similar IP. But if the innings pitched are not close the WHIP doesn’t tell you which one had a low sample and which one had a high sampling.
In that case you need to know the WHIP components (Walks per Innings) which is what Bayonne used.
One is not better than the other nor is it easier!
They are virtually identical!
But one requires someone has done the math for you so you can look it up!
Yes Bayonne needs to open his mind to the new metrics but that doesn’t mean his “Old Fasioned” method of stating the stats is wrong.
To cite example, if Pitcher A and Pitcher B both had a WHIP of 1.2 which one would you pick? Without saying which I will tell you one pitched 107 innings and the other pitched 20.
Does WHIP tell you which one is more likely to give you that 1.2 again?
I know it is easier to just look up and sort the WHIP when you compare but easier isn’t always better.
A good evaluator doesn’t throw away or HIDE information in a result he tries to get as much information as he can into his assesment.
Knowing actually how many innings were involved is very valuable when weighting WHIP and Walks and Ks.
“Swinging outside the zone is basically where most hitters get their hits! I mean not every hit that is counted is a fat pitch over the plate. Those are usually home runs. The majority of ML hits are on pitches that are in a batter’s sweet spot which for most is low and outside where they can extend and drive the ball deep!”–Metsie
LOLOLOL.
Did you look at those fan graphs you posted dummy? Most of the hits were not dead strikes but on either side of the plate!
But what do I expect from a guy who needs 18 walks and an error to score 10 runs because OBP is the be all and end all of RS!
LOL Sorry sonny but you need to go back to the little childrens dinner table, your not ready to asrgue with the grownups!
Your basically as bad as some say Bayonne is only extremist on the other side!
please tell me you are kidding Metsie. The red in the middle is is where the biggest percentage of hits are. Closer to the MIDDLE of the strike zone the more hits. Further out of the strike zone, the less hits. Jimeny Christmas you don’t even know how to read a friggin graph.
No my mathematically challenged friend…
It is YOU who can’t read the chart correctly…
What percentage of hits is represented by the Red?
What percentage is left?
Which is the higher number?
Get a clue dude!
Of course FAT pitches are usually hit so pitches in that area are going to be hit EVEN by BAD HITTERS!
The good hitters don’t need a pitch down broadway to get a hit!
So they do their BEST work on pitches that are on the edges of the strikezone. And if you bothered to look at Pujols’ graph you would see he is dangerous if you throw him on the outer half of the plate!
But thats enough Sunday School for idiots for one day!
No one stat tells the whole story. No one utilizing new math is doing that just like no one using old math does that either.
Just like no one vehicle is perfect for every situation (except perhaps the old “any car”) Personally I look at both. I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t, but if they don’t want to it doesn’t bother me in the least.
Walks and hits given up per inning is a useful stat but inherent in anything is context.
Whip looks good, you whip over to IP. No different than BA looks good you whip over to AB’s. Without context neither stat has any value.
The funniest thing to me is how non stat related discussions break down along the same lines as stat related ones do.
Democrats never acknowledge a good Republican idea and Republicans never acknowledge a good Democratic idea, even when it’s not about politics.
A large percentage of this stat argument reminds me of the old CNN show, Pointless – Counter pointless.
In life there are ballplayers and there are statisticians. If your bringing statistics into every single discussion, regardless of which side you favor, you are a statistician.
I agree Metsie,
My take on WHIP, SLG, OBP and things like that – they’re better to use in conversation but when actually talking about a ballplayer, when you REALLY want to know who you’re talking about, when you really want to KNOW – the breakdown is better.
It’s been better for 150+ years. We just have toys in the 21st century and we gotta use ‘em.
But the Abbreviation Age has some merits, yes. It’s for people who feel they need to say things quicker, that’s all.
My problem is I’m still VERY interested in the actual human being and what the player specifically does. Just a “general idea” doesn’t cut it for me.
It is possible to enjoy both the human AND look at stats to best predict stuff.
For example, I value stats, but for Dickey, I’m just so impressed by the person that the “he’s only had one good year” arguments just don’t hold any ground for me.
And Cliff Floyd. He wasn’t a world beater, but the effect his presence had on this team was undeniable.
Leadership IS important, it’s just not “pay Alex Cora $2 million” important.
Just to add Berb, If you do not look at the Human you will not be able to glean HOW those stats were arrived at NOR their affect on the players around them!
The numbers aren’t as important if you do not know WHY and HOW he got those numbers.
Cause if the idea is to evaluate talent you have to know what different traits to look for when the player has NO stats because he is coming out of college and or the Minors.
Those stats are virtually meaningless since they can’t be weighted to what they will face in the ML.
Scouting and mental makeup of a players is most important. The numbers are only useful to determine if the player is using those qualities to best advantage and to show areas where the talent could be used to improve those numbers.
sorry, give me a guy with a .900 OPS and I don’t really need to know what kind of a person he is. hell I don’t even need to know what he looks like. I don’t think anyone in Boston really cared what a douche Manny was while he was putting up 5-6 WAR seasons. He sure didn’t stop them from winning two championships in four seasons.
a team of Mannys and Zambranos with K-Rods in the pen beats a team of model citizens with great leaderships qualities who can’t hit or pitch. That is not debatable.
this is a game of numbers. always has been. always will be. If they’re good people and good leaders, even better.
OK I will give you a guy with a .900 OPS
Will you pay him 8 Mil a season?
If yes then congratulations you just got a .900 OPS guy with one at bat to his name!
Good Luck with that singular narrow minded way to judge players!
It’s good to see Alderson get Dickey signed and 2 years with an option as well oh my.
Now on to Pagan.
Great move by the Mets to sign one of the few bright spots from last season. I have no doubt that last year’s numbers were not a fluke and I expect he will be just as good for us this season.
Dickey’s two-year deal is for less than $8MM
Wow. I assume that he’s guaranteed another 1M in the buyout of year 3 which no doubt will not matter.
I’m so glad they were able to come to an agreement! I wasn’t sure at one point if it was going to get done, but i was wrong. For the innings, and the starts he gave us, he is worth 7.5 million.
Easily.
pedro feliciano and hisanori takahashi are both making more than R.A. Dickey.
just sayin.
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