Terry for all intents and purposes already is familiar with the players and the players familiar with him.

So like in the other post about telegraphing, He has some idea what needs to be done the question is does Sandy agree and will the big bats perform to their average.

If they do they will be fine, short on pitching but able to bat their way through it.

If they don’t hit the way they didn’t hit last spring or someone gets hurt where it won’t matter what the Manager says does, how respected or MEAN he is…We will not be winning games!

Yes they could use a good hustle enema but the truth is if they don’t do what they are supposed to in the batters box nothing else matters!
Rebuild time!

Even a Wright basher like yourself has to see the ridiculousness in lumping Wright in with Castillo and Perez.

I hear in San Diego fans were mad when Gonzo was traded as well cause they no longer had him to kick around as well.

At least your lucky you still have Wright to kick around.

I would think it to be a pretty good idea to see what your competitors have done and had success with especially as a top 5 payroll team constantly being out performed by teams with payrolls half the size.

For instance how many teams find it necessary to DFA four of their 5 bench players during the season? How many teams in the NL feel the need to carry a DH? How many teams bring up 20 year old’s who haven’t achieved any success above A ball? How many teams can boast of not producing a right fielder in 25 years? An ace pitcher in 25 years? A left fielder since the 60′s? At the most 4 second basemen in 50 years and only one true two way SS in fifty years?

What is the harm in seeing where your competitors have found success and then trying to emulate it?

You say:

“First of all, whatever decisions other organizations made to better themselves in the past..or the present for that matter.. has no bearing on and is not related to what I think is best for my franchise now. What works for you now may or may not work for you another time.”

So “whatever decisions other organizations made to better themselves in the past..or the present for that matter.. has no bearing on and is not related to what I think is best for my franchise now”?

If that is true and past decisions organizations made then have no bearing and is not related to what you think is best now then how does that explain the Google boy remarks about Depo or the Alderson only won cause of steroid remarks that you have made being used to make your case for why you don’t like them now?

Seems to me quite the opposite that you really do feel past decisions that Depo and Alderson have made have a bearing now.

Don’t get me wrong I am not telling you that you shouldn’t hold it against them I may not agree with you doing so but the point is that you saying now that the past decisions organizations made have no bearing now seems like you are flip flopping from prior comments so which is it? do past decisions have a bearing now or don’t they?

Leadership is a lot more than just taking on payroll. It’s about taking action when action is called for and supporting those who are doing the heavy lifting. It really couldn’t have been anything other than do we cut him now or next year because no way he was giving anyone anything.

Not DFA’ing him sent the wrong message just like having such weak backups sent the wrong message. Dumping Jacobs, GMJ, Cora and Catalanotto and replacing them with AAA players was a real weak move as was the salary dump of Francoeur (your not under the impression we wanted Arias are you?)

You can’t fool the players. They know the deal. You get rid of guys to save salary but you keep guys who aren’t pulling their weight in the hope of being able to recoup SOME of their salary later even if it costs you some games (and the clubhouse) in the meantime.

Decisions have been made with money as the primary consideration for along time now. Trading Matsui for Eli Marrero, Wagner (and the 2 high draft picks) for a DH, Francouer, Appier-Vaughn, Rojas-Bonilla, I could go on and on.

Throw the big press conference in January, dump salary and get nothing useful going forward in July.

A failure of vision and a failure of leadership.

1 – I believed Backman was the best man for the job anyway. I believe i’ve said that 489 times so far in the last few weeks?

2 – I obviously would NOT hire a mgr to sell tickets if I know he’s not the right man for my team.

3- For the 490th time, since I believe Backman WAS the best man for the job anyway we just had the added luxury of a guy who’s going to generate more tickets being sold too so it was the best of both worlds. I believe I’ve said that before.

That’s what I would have done. But I’m not the GM – he hired Collins – and to always – YES – that’s already an improvement over Manuel.

So we’ll see how he plays out.

So perhaps it’s not ticket sales a GM should be worried about when hiring managers.

scoscia and Gardy were just rookies, of no particular note, so for sure had no bump.

maddon is about as dull as paste, so I doubt he sold anything!

and with the Mets, Collins should sell plenty of tickets thanks to his biggest attribute: He isn’t Jerry!

Joe Torre, NY Yankees 1996
Terry Francona, Red Sox 2004
Ozzie Guillen, White Sox 2004
Ron Gardenhire, Twins 2002
Mike Scioscia, Angels 2000
Joe Maddon, Rays 2006

If you don’t know then I don’t blame you. But how can you tell me Wally Backman would’ve sold enough tickets to make that argument and those managers listed were some or are some of the best managers in today’s era, and not one was hired under the mindset of “to sell tickets”

I don’t remember hearing any of those GMs or Owners say “we’re really excited about what this will do for our ticket sales.”

When you’re hiring a Manager to sell tickets, you’re in a lot of trouble.

Many people here surmise that Sandy has been relatively quiet so far because he is waiting to evaluate the team in action. Then, he needs to decide if they are contendors (so get a a few parts for the stretch run), close but needing retooling (so say trade Beltran if they can) or hopeless and in need of a tear down and rebuild.

if it is the 3rd option, it could be like midnight massacre part II this year. and if that does happen (not saying it will, or is the likliest outcome) you want a ST, tough guy in the managers seat to deal with the upheaval (not a newbie that is supposed to be part of the longer term team).

so yeah, no matter how they procede, Collins is likely just the transition guy, and at some point he steps back and lets a young buck take over.

I suspect it is because they want to take one lst shot (an off season) on getting something for a guy. But once they are staring the opening day roster in the face, there is really no hope of that.

What are you saying? The FO would back Wally in a dispute over how to use K-Rod? No they wouldn’t, they’d cave just like they always do. What’s different, a new GM? Oh, they’d do it for him but not for Omar? They might eat Ollie’s contract this spring but why wouldn’t they do it last June? What kind of a signal do you think they were sending when they kept him on the 25? Your on your own Boys and Manuel had to manage short handed, as if he wasn’t already managing short handed with Carter taking up a roster spot, Jacobs, GMJ, Cattalanotto and Cora were mercifully dropped but how are you going to pick up capable reserves in June?

The bad decisions on Cora, GMJ, Jacobs and Cattalanotto were made up by bringing in guys who belonged in AAA so that was no help, but anything at all would have been preferable to Perez but no one went out and got Manuel another arm. He was just left to deal with Ollie all by himself and manage short handed.

Henderson was a really bad example because of all the s**t he pulled and was allowed to get away with until finally someone did something.

K-Rod pulls his s**t on a veteran manager is a lot different than pulling it on a rookie manager.

The bad sheriff is in town now for a couple of years to weed out the malcontents, clean up the club house and change the Club Met culture. When that’s all taken care of a new younger guy can come in here with his own crew and concentrate on baseball related things and thrive in the process without the distractions.