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	<title>Comments on: If Phillies Can&#8217;t Afford To Keep Hamels, Should Mets Go After Him?</title>
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		<title>By: Harry C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cole Hamels&#039; trash talking would be reversed so quickly if he put on a Mets jersey.   Baseball is entertainment.    Hame;s would talk about the &quot;revnge factor&quot;  on Philly if they let him go, and would trash talk the Phils just as well.  Its meaningless.  Hockey players beat each other up all the time and then become instant buddies when a trade is made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cole Hamels&#8217; trash talking would be reversed so quickly if he put on a Mets jersey.   Baseball is entertainment.    Hame;s would talk about the &#8220;revnge factor&#8221;  on Philly if they let him go, and would trash talk the Phils just as well.  Its meaningless.  Hockey players beat each other up all the time and then become instant buddies when a trade is made.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryG15</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryG15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t that the case for the entire site?   People post blogs of their opinions, and knuckleheads like you and I reply with our own opinion.   Really, for one second does anyone really believe what we all post here means a rats butt in the grand scheme of things?

Seriously, its a blog, its suppose to be fun, maybe a little informative.   It is not life, we are not the GMs or on staff at the Mets, fans some with higher hopes then others.

That&#039;s it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that the case for the entire site?   People post blogs of their opinions, and knuckleheads like you and I reply with our own opinion.   Really, for one second does anyone really believe what we all post here means a rats butt in the grand scheme of things?</p>
<p>Seriously, its a blog, its suppose to be fun, maybe a little informative.   It is not life, we are not the GMs or on staff at the Mets, fans some with higher hopes then others.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryG15</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryG15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Happy New Year to you too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Happy New Year to you too.</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, considering that the Phils are expected to trade one of their starting pitchers and Hamels will be a free agent shortly it&#039;s not entirely impossible that they would consider trading him.  Not necessarily to us but perhaps somewhere else.  I doubt it myself but can anyone say that the Yankees wouldn&#039;t be very interested and even pay a premium to get him THIS year?

     I don&#039;t see a scenario where Philly fails to keep Hamels but the Yankees do have 6 well thought of pitchers between high A and AAA and two others at 3B in AA and AAA as well as Montero and considering how they lost out on Lee and then lost out on him again....

     It would be incredibly ballsy of Amaro Jr. and he better be right if he did such a thing or he might be run out of town.

     Unlikely to say the very least but up for discussion?  Why not?  Even video games are why not this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, considering that the Phils are expected to trade one of their starting pitchers and Hamels will be a free agent shortly it&#8217;s not entirely impossible that they would consider trading him.  Not necessarily to us but perhaps somewhere else.  I doubt it myself but can anyone say that the Yankees wouldn&#8217;t be very interested and even pay a premium to get him THIS year?</p>
<p>     I don&#8217;t see a scenario where Philly fails to keep Hamels but the Yankees do have 6 well thought of pitchers between high A and AAA and two others at 3B in AA and AAA as well as Montero and considering how they lost out on Lee and then lost out on him again&#8230;.</p>
<p>     It would be incredibly ballsy of Amaro Jr. and he better be right if he did such a thing or he might be run out of town.</p>
<p>     Unlikely to say the very least but up for discussion?  Why not?  Even video games are why not this?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys?

You mean 86mets, Alex in CT, Metsie, iZ, K Maxx, francis, alwaysnextyear, BryanNYC, Carl, JerryG15, t agee, pete and you who replied with an opinion on this post?

I don&#039;t see how they were baitedif by baited your inferring to tricked if they agreed with the author after reading that the post was merely to &quot;kill some time debating the merits of the Mets chasing down the young and very prized southpaw&quot;?

Nevertheless]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys?</p>
<p>You mean 86mets, Alex in CT, Metsie, iZ, K Maxx, francis, alwaysnextyear, BryanNYC, Carl, JerryG15, t agee, pete and you who replied with an opinion on this post?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how they were baitedif by baited your inferring to tricked if they agreed with the author after reading that the post was merely to &#8220;kill some time debating the merits of the Mets chasing down the young and very prized southpaw&#8221;?</p>
<p>Nevertheless</p>
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		<title>By: theonlymaskman</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonlymaskman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And all you guys took the bait to debate something that was meaningless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all you guys took the bait to debate something that was meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try and remember that the author was not being serious but rather just wanted to try and mix it up a bit debating a different scenario.

&quot;It’s a slow new days, and rather than recycling the same old Mets news again and again, lets kill some time debating the merits of the Mets chasing down the young and very prized southpaw.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try and remember that the author was not being serious but rather just wanted to try and mix it up a bit debating a different scenario.</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s a slow new days, and rather than recycling the same old Mets news again and again, lets kill some time debating the merits of the Mets chasing down the young and very prized southpaw.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: theonlymaskman</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonlymaskman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, the entire thesis of the article is silly.  The Mets can&#039;t even conceive of spending that much.  The Phillies would never send him to the Mets.  This will simply never happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, the entire thesis of the article is silly.  The Mets can&#8217;t even conceive of spending that much.  The Phillies would never send him to the Mets.  This will simply never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[easy to say in hindsight that you wouldn&#039;t undo the santana and halladay trades. i guess i can say bartolo colon as a counterexample, although phillips and sizemore weren&#039;t pitchers.

and really, hamels is not santana or halladay. and lastly, these 4 for 1 deals are done to get a team an ace to put them over the top, when you don&#039;t even have a real fourth starter, and your third starter is a journeyman 35 year old, this isn&#039;t the deal you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>easy to say in hindsight that you wouldn&#8217;t undo the santana and halladay trades. i guess i can say bartolo colon as a counterexample, although phillips and sizemore weren&#8217;t pitchers.</p>
<p>and really, hamels is not santana or halladay. and lastly, these 4 for 1 deals are done to get a team an ace to put them over the top, when you don&#8217;t even have a real fourth starter, and your third starter is a journeyman 35 year old, this isn&#8217;t the deal you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Butler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 01:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Mets would look at it, but i don&#039;t think it would happen.  Considering that Cole Hamels trash talks about the Mets every single year, Cole Hamels would have to lay off his trashtalking for the Mets, i think, to offer him a contract.  But i do believe they will look at him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Mets would look at it, but i don&#8217;t think it would happen.  Considering that Cole Hamels trash talks about the Mets every single year, Cole Hamels would have to lay off his trashtalking for the Mets, i think, to offer him a contract.  But i do believe they will look at him.</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hamels is an outstanding pitcher which is really my point.  If Philly were to offer him around, especially with the composition of their current starting rotation that would either say that their FO is dumb or they have questions.  No one knows Hamels better than they do.  We are not even close to one starting pitcher away from competing with anything other than perhaps .500.

     What we need is multiple starting pitchers to come through for us and giving up a CFer too who can fully defend CF in Citi Field and also has an arm, good BA and OB against RHP, some pop and is a great base runner would make moot acquiring an outstanding pitcher anyway.  The whole thing is moot anyway as Philly would never consider trading him within the division and I highly doubt they will not be resigning him anyway and they certainly won&#039;t be doing it for the types of guys we got Johan for.

     Santana, if he were to come back as the same pitcher he was, Hamels, Pelfrey, Dickey and Niese would be worth giving up fair compensation for I will agree but increasing the payroll 20 million a year to do it with just Matz, Cohoon and Familia in reserve would be completely discounting the likelihood that one two or even three of them have off years, regress or get hurt and then what?

     Right now quantity is very important for this team.  Lack of quantity is what has caused us to overpay in years and dollars for too many holes on the roster.  Counting on just one guy in every position has left us unable to deal with under performance, injuries and prospect stagnation in the minors.

     To give up 3 possible cost controlled young starting pitching prospects AND a quality CFer is the type of move a team one player away can afford to make.  We have acted as a team one player away almost every year when in fact we were many players away and eventually we ran out of players because of it.  That&#039;s why we had so many players running in and out of here through the years that almost no other team in either league would even consider.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamels is an outstanding pitcher which is really my point.  If Philly were to offer him around, especially with the composition of their current starting rotation that would either say that their FO is dumb or they have questions.  No one knows Hamels better than they do.  We are not even close to one starting pitcher away from competing with anything other than perhaps .500.</p>
<p>     What we need is multiple starting pitchers to come through for us and giving up a CFer too who can fully defend CF in Citi Field and also has an arm, good BA and OB against RHP, some pop and is a great base runner would make moot acquiring an outstanding pitcher anyway.  The whole thing is moot anyway as Philly would never consider trading him within the division and I highly doubt they will not be resigning him anyway and they certainly won&#8217;t be doing it for the types of guys we got Johan for.</p>
<p>     Santana, if he were to come back as the same pitcher he was, Hamels, Pelfrey, Dickey and Niese would be worth giving up fair compensation for I will agree but increasing the payroll 20 million a year to do it with just Matz, Cohoon and Familia in reserve would be completely discounting the likelihood that one two or even three of them have off years, regress or get hurt and then what?</p>
<p>     Right now quantity is very important for this team.  Lack of quantity is what has caused us to overpay in years and dollars for too many holes on the roster.  Counting on just one guy in every position has left us unable to deal with under performance, injuries and prospect stagnation in the minors.</p>
<p>     To give up 3 possible cost controlled young starting pitching prospects AND a quality CFer is the type of move a team one player away can afford to make.  We have acted as a team one player away almost every year when in fact we were many players away and eventually we ran out of players because of it.  That&#8217;s why we had so many players running in and out of here through the years that almost no other team in either league would even consider.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last 5 years:

Player A: 60-45, 3.53 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 8.5 SO/9 (plays in pitchers nightmare) 

Player B: 43-41, 4.31 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, 5.1 SO/9 (plays in pitchers heaven) 

Which player is better and would you want if you were a GM?

Or do you need another 5 years to decide? LMAO!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last 5 years:</p>
<p>Player A: 60-45, 3.53 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 8.5 SO/9 (plays in pitchers nightmare) </p>
<p>Player B: 43-41, 4.31 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, 5.1 SO/9 (plays in pitchers heaven) </p>
<p>Which player is better and would you want if you were a GM?</p>
<p>Or do you need another 5 years to decide? LMAO!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why dont you go look at his numbers Jerry! I know his numbers quite well and compared to Pelfrey it&#039;s like comparing Perez to Lincecum. Gimme a break and stop being such a homer. Thank God you&#039;re not a GM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont you go look at his numbers Jerry! I know his numbers quite well and compared to Pelfrey it&#8217;s like comparing Perez to Lincecum. Gimme a break and stop being such a homer. Thank God you&#8217;re not a GM.</p>
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		<title>By: Love the Mets.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Love the Mets.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the Mets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the Mets.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryG15</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryG15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hamels was the WS MVP - but since then, what has he done?   He&#039;s been on a succesful team, but really go look at this numbers the last two years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamels was the WS MVP &#8211; but since then, what has he done?   He&#8217;s been on a succesful team, but really go look at this numbers the last two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you like the three pitchers we gave up for Johan Santana back? Do you think the Phillies want the three pitchers they gave up for Halladay back? These two were in the same situation traded before free agency, and both signed extensions after trade was agreed upon. The only reason Hamels dobt have a Cy Young is because he pitches in that Philly ballpark, put him in San Fran or St. Louis and lets see if he matches Wainwright or Lincecum.

To the other guy, plus Pelfrey has a terrible whip while picthing always in pitchers parks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you like the three pitchers we gave up for Johan Santana back? Do you think the Phillies want the three pitchers they gave up for Halladay back? These two were in the same situation traded before free agency, and both signed extensions after trade was agreed upon. The only reason Hamels dobt have a Cy Young is because he pitches in that Philly ballpark, put him in San Fran or St. Louis and lets see if he matches Wainwright or Lincecum.</p>
<p>To the other guy, plus Pelfrey has a terrible whip while picthing always in pitchers parks.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too early to tell if Hamels is better than Pelfrey? You&#039;re not serious are you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too early to tell if Hamels is better than Pelfrey? You&#8217;re not serious are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the Mets have no money? How can they even attempt to acquire Hamels without first shedding some payroll themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the Mets have no money? How can they even attempt to acquire Hamels without first shedding some payroll themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way way way too much to give up and then to have to pay him on top of that?  Better to take the low risk gamble of developing Mejia and Harvey into everything they can possibly be and hopefully getting great production at a fraction of what Hamels would cost.

     Trade Pagan and you will regret it every single day for the next 3 years.

     Too much expense, too much risk of losing tremendous upside and too much money in just one player.  Pass.  The only way Philly makes Hamels available is if they know or suspect something no one else does.  Buyer beware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way way way too much to give up and then to have to pay him on top of that?  Better to take the low risk gamble of developing Mejia and Harvey into everything they can possibly be and hopefully getting great production at a fraction of what Hamels would cost.</p>
<p>     Trade Pagan and you will regret it every single day for the next 3 years.</p>
<p>     Too much expense, too much risk of losing tremendous upside and too much money in just one player.  Pass.  The only way Philly makes Hamels available is if they know or suspect something no one else does.  Buyer beware.</p>
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		<title>By: BryanNYC</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/01/if-phillies-cant-afford-to-keep-hamels-should-mets-go-after-him.html#comment-112998</link>
		<dc:creator>BryanNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Pelfrey is a few weeks younger than Hamels and in terms of ability, it&#039;s too early to say who will be better over the long term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Pelfrey is a few weeks younger than Hamels and in terms of ability, it&#8217;s too early to say who will be better over the long term.</p>
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