Comments on: ESPN: Top 10 Mets Prospects

By: t agee

t agee — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:07:05 +0000

Riccardi’s been out of there for a couple of years now. He originally drafted Emaus though in the 11th round of the 2007 draft.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:32:03 +0000

Certainly wouldn’t be the first time a good prospect was inadvertantly exposed, most likely happens during frontoffice regime changes & Riccardi may have been downplaying(hiding) him internally, one never knows.

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:04:47 +0000

Got ya ’62. I’m excited to see what he offers too.

One thing that surprises me is that he wasn’t protected by Toronto, not so much by MI depth but because they elected to go with 24 pitchers on their 40 and only 5 infielders.

Must be looking for trade possibilities.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:52:32 +0000

T, please don’t mistake my touting Emaus over Havens to Des as anything more than it is. As an OLD FASHIONED type of non-sabremetric fan,I don’t disavow Sabre; just don’t rely as heavily upon it. I typically, in this contec=xt, don’t count too heavily on offensive production from MI players(SS,2B) I’m high on Emaus’ prospects only in comparison to Havens,Castillo as the RH portion of an anticipated Murphy platoon, his occasions will naturally be limited as typically Murph will get the nod 2G each series. due to the higher population of RH SPers

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:47:03 +0000

True Stick, and after a few years of building some depth and talent in the farm, it prevents you from “having” to make that big free agent mistake because as the refrain goes “well who else were we going to get to play 2B?”

By: stick

stick — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:41:56 +0000

going over slot is vastly cheaper than overpaying for middle of the road FAs on LT deals.

even the teams that go nuts with the draft (high 1st round pick, some overslots) and also sign some top IFAs spend what, $10mill on amateur talent each year?

so what is better, that investment in multiple young guys (who stay cheap for many years once they are in house), or signing 1 stiff like Ollie for even more money?

And with KC or pitt, easier to spare that money when their ML payroll doesn’t break $40mill!

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:37:16 +0000

Sarge, One thing that does win World Series is having a LOT of your young talented players all coming up at the same time.

For the last four years KC has been going over slot on ALL their picks, that’s why they have so much talent all coming up here together.

We have been putting fortunes into “filling holes” every year and handing over our high draft choices and now those players are either going to be gone or we are wishing they were gone.

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:31:52 +0000

Completely agree Stick. .750 would be fantastic. Hell, .650 be be an improvement especially since Castillo’s high OB only comes with no one on.

By: stick

stick — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:17:07 +0000

well, .750 is way better than what the mets have gotten out of the position for the last few years. And especially good for a #8 hitter.

I can also see the platoon situation, but unless they bring in someone new, that likely means murphy, who should put up just as good of an OPS hitting mostly vs. RHP.

long shot would be castillo, but I really don’t see him being kept for a platoon.

By: sarge

sarge — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:10:18 +0000

Kansas City might have a higher rated farm system, and their share of busts “Alex Gordon”, but how many times have they competed for a playoff spot in the last 10 years?
At least Mets have been to WS in 2000 and since 2006 been contenders until last few years so farms system does not equal WS titles, yet.

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:06:04 +0000

’62, Got to put Emaus’ numbers in the context of the PCL being notoriously hitter friendly overall and his home field contributing to that overall hitter friendliness. Projections are fun but don’t forget to dock him for coming up here AND for league and home field context especially with regard to OB and SLG.

My realistic translation of his AAA numbers in the PCL to his first year up here, .245/.330/376. I would bop those up to .270/.350/400 in a straight up platoon.

We’ll see.

By: Des

Des — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:58:39 +0000

Maybe I jumped the gun, but after looking at Havens I know why the Mets drafted him so high. The kid is the real deal. After not missing a single game in his college career, the wheels came off because of injuries. Here’s what Toby Hyde said:

“I like his swing. I like his strength which has produced power this year. I like that he takes walks. I think he has the physical skills for second with more than adequate range, good hands and a stronger than necessary arm for the position. None of it matters if he’s not on the field.”

If Emaus winds up being a better everyday selection, and Havens is available, the Mets have the enviable problem of riches. Havens might bring another needed player to the team through a trade.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:28:49 +0000

Happy, ever consider altering your moniker to dilusional? perhaps u need to venture outside the Metro bubble for longer than a few weeks at a time. I’ve lived or worked in NY,NJ,DE,GA,CA,NC for extensive periods & by far I’ve seen many more NYM fan indications than any other non resident NL team over the past 30+ yrs. just check a compoarative road attendance figure between us & tyhe other NL franchises don’t u ever wonder why the JOSE,JOSE,JOSE chant is so mobil?
The renowned dysfunctionality of the Jeff Wilpon organization chart is most likely the true cause for frontoffice issues as predicted by Doubleday, the day Jeff’s COO promotion was announced & detauiled by HOF writer Bill Madden shortly afterward.Nadden’s famous metaphoric comparison was more FRATHOUSE than FRONTOFFICE. Of course prior emplorers in sports get first crack at approving or denying access to their employees as SOP. While the Mets have suffered for 9 yrs as Doubleday prognosticated with his “heaven help them” retort to the Jeff as COO annoncement for the very first time under th aucpices of sterling guidance the more renowned “CORE” is housed in the frontoffice insteasd on the field this core is comprised of GM loyalists, noy cronies or affirmative action(Bernazard) oportumists. While the lack of headliner additions confound & perplex the simpleminded one can only consider the lack of acquisition headlines provoked by our competitors’ former acquisitions of Werth,Ibanez,Victorino(PHL) or McLouth,Hinske,Gonzalez(ATL) as quality if not headline additions while we focused on the bigger names of Beltran,Bay,Delgado to be strong Bricks to build a foundation upon. Unfortunately foundation strength relies much more on the mortar used to connect the bricks/stones a factor overlooked in NY; but not in PHL.ATL as the aforementioned lackluster additions indicate. All 3 clubs have been assisted by the development of a few capable STARS in McCann,Prado,Infante,Heyward in Atlanta as well as Utley,Howard, Rollins in PHL. these adequately equalled or surpassed the NY contingent of Reyes,Wright,Davis whereby strategic lineup additions of “mortar/cement” players over bricks/stones certainly indicate Alderson has completed a fine job hopefully underlined the season.

Please note I deliberately avoided the key topic of pitching as I’ve been continuously baffled by the steady productivity provided by the oldest staff housed in Atlanta. Philadelphia’s “on-paper” dominance is too rediculous to contemplate assailing.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:40:11 +0000

Des, I have a “gut” feeling we needn’t overlook Emaus the former Jay prospect, I assume we snatched via Rule V on the tout from Ricchardi. Emaus is a tad more advanced having already logged time in the PCL(AAA) comparative Milb Carrer averages are equally promising while rumor has it neither is particularly gifted beyond serrvicable defensively
MiLB CARRER OFFENSIVE #s:
PLAYER G AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS

HAVENS 32 .312/.386/.592/.978
EMAUS 125 .290/.397/.476/.874

Emaus’ 87 games played in AAA to date were equally impressive @.298/.395/.495/.890.

I have found that incoming execs from other MLB franchises typically use their ‘best insider’ intelligence to make excellent first impressions by touting “BEST BETS”. it is why I feel good about the opportunity a Murphy/Emaus platoon will have in unseating incumbant Castillo. Cetrtainly Havens seems like a superb future consideration for either a corner or 2B option. I believe Emaus stands posised to make a more immediate impact as his odds improve by his RULE V status.
As Tejada’s been announce ostensibly as the franchise’s Damasclesian Sword(threat) in it’s negotiations with Reyes since the announcement Tejada’s slotted to be the Bison’s reg SS in 2011. as well as the depth addition of Hu majkes Tejada’;s consideration @ 2B yesterday’s concern. If Murphy can prove better defensively @ 2B than a Robbie Alomar with a fry pan instead of a glove, then I really believe the Murph/Emaus tandem has an actual player’s edge over Luis. Luis maintains his accountant’s edge.

By: Des

Des — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 05:23:35 +0000

Way back when, I looked at a lot of video of Reese Havens. If this kid stays healthy, he’ll make us forget Daniel Murphy, Ruben Tejada, and everyone else at 2B. His swing is as close to perfect as you’ll see. It’s compact and powerful. It’s the best of any of the current Mets infielders.

Whether Havens ever makes it will depend on his health and freedom from injuries, much less on the availability of any of the other candidates for 2B. As a total ballplayer, he is a gem. Of course, the Mets would be wise to always have an alternative in the event Havens gets injured.

By: Des

Des — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 05:10:48 +0000

Yeah, Pat Gillick was (and is) the man for the Phillies. He is still in on every deal.

Ruben Amaro has the title of GM. Pat Gillick reports to Ruben but, more importantly to Dave Montgomery, the chief cheese.

By: stick

stick — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:39:36 +0000

I guess you come here because even the other philly fans won’t talk sports with you?

and calling Sandy over the hill is humorous, considering the Phils had to bring in an even older guy (gillick) to fix their mess.

By: Squidoo

Squidoo — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:24:04 +0000

I thought I read somewhere that he also won the MVP in that league, New York Penn I believe. He should of been ranked higher. Why does Law get this undeserved and unproven reputation for being some sort of prospects guru? What is his claim to fame?

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:49:14 +0000

Still haven’t gotten over your inferiority complex i see.

By: happy little mets fans

happy little mets fans — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:41:33 +0000

wow, where did you come up with that false line about the mets being popular. people pound on yoiur team because of the people like you, arrogant for no reason and an owner whoiis so dumb he has to beg bud seklig to help him find a gm. sandy is over the hill… got the job because selig didn’t want to keep overpaying him to check birthdates in the Dominican. stay delusional metsie fan. afterall you did finish first every year since 2006 right!! lol