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2011
David Wright: To C Or Not To C
An article by Craig Lerner
Kerel Cooper form one of my favorite Mets blogs On The Black, tossed out that age old question that comes up each year right before the start of spring training:
Should David Wright be named captain of the Mets?
I have never really understood the significance of a baseball team having a captain, and of course there’s no evidence to suggest that it adds to the team chemistry or leads to more wins.
I used to get a big laugh out of seeing Johnny Franco wearing that big “C” on his chest because often times he had no problems throwing a fellow teammate under the bus and ripping someone for whatever reason. I mean he still could have done all of that without the “C” right?
Will slapping the captain tag on David Wright help him become more consistent with runners on base? If there’s any proof of that happening, then count me in, but seriously I doubt any such correlation exists.
What are your thoughts on the subject?
While you make up your minds, enjoy this new David Wright video from Wilson Sporting Goods.
About the Author: Craig Lerner
I'm a data analyst and researcher for a leading news agency who loves life and is hooked on the Mets. I love following the Amateur Draft and have a particular fondness for the Mets Minor Leagues who I follow each day. Give me a cold beer, a summer day, and a Mets game, and I'm good to go.
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I think the C should be given to the following players:
There, that’s all of them.
I absolutely concur. Great list!
Thank You
I disagree with the 3rd guy, but the rest of the list is spot on.
LoL
In a year where we’re looking at a team who’s majority will be either trying to start or revive their careers, I wouldn’t name a captain THIS year.
If Bay or Beltran hit like their old selves I can see the guys gravitating to them as on the field leaders. Right now Santana is the closest thing to one. Wright is no leader, you must lead by example and he’s done nothing in 7 years to deserve that except have a reputation of choking when you need him the most. And I don’t mean big HRs vs. The Pirates in the 8th inning of a meaningless August game. 7 years and people still haven’t learned that.
What planet are you on? Seriously? In 2008, Wright did everything he could to drag that team kicking and screaming into October.
Here are his September numbers for that last crucial leg of the play off race: .352 BS .432 OBP .602 SLG 6 HR 9 2B. What else can he do? Pitch a no-hitter?
Thats the last time they were relevent to playoff discussions and he was on point when everyone else was crashing hard.
but,but he didn’t get murphy in from 3rd base! makes everything else he did that month irrelevant!
(yes, being snarky here)
The numbers don’t matter. There’s the old joke that Daniel Murphy is still standing on 3B. I saw the same games you did, Wright consistently (to this day) will go 3 for 4, get a HR or a couple of doubles during the course of a game but when that crucial AB arises, when pressure of the game is at it’s apex – he’ll flop. That’s why he has good numbers but still a terrible competitor.
A-Rod was going to the HOF no matter what, but before 2009 he was going to the HOF, despite his great numbers, as one of the most prolific chokers of all time but he changed his legacy in 2009 with an unbelievable display of huge hits in big spots and the Yankees went on to win the World Series.
Maybe David Wright can change too, there’s still time.
“Wright consistently (to this day) will go 3 for 4, get a HR or a couple of doubles during the course of a game but when that crucial AB arises, when pressure of the game is at it’s apex – he’ll flop.”
This pretty much is false.
“The numbers don’t matter. ”
Yes they do.
“I saw the same games you did, Wright consistently (to this day) will go 3 for 4, get a HR or a couple of doubles during the course of a game but when that crucial AB arises, when pressure of the game is at it’s apex – he’ll flop. That’s why he has good numbers but still a terrible competitor. ”
Good lord, that is insane. If he goes 3 for 4 “with a couple” of extra base hits and the Mets lose by a run, IT IS NOT HIS FAULT! He did everything he was expected to and more. He’s most likely the reason they are even close to winning that game.
“A-Rod was going to the HOF no matter what, but before 2009 he was going to the HOF, despite his great numbers, as one of the most prolific chokers of all time but he changed his legacy in 2009 with an unbelievable display of huge hits in big spots and the Yankees went on to win the World Series.”
A-Rod’s October performance prior to 2009 was actually on par with Reggie Jackson. Just because he didn’t have a single game that you clutch your teddy bear and remember fondly doesn’t make him a choker. Its not his fault the rest of his teams didn’t perform.
And how does one year’s play off performance undo the previous decade+ of his career?
“Maybe David Wright can change too, there’s still time.”
He doesn’t have to change. He plays just fine.
you are addressing a fundamental question of debate between the “eyes” crowd and the stats crowd.
is it better to have the 3-4, 2 doubles guy that drives in a few runs earlier in the game but can’t produce in the 9th, or the guy that is 0-3 before that but sometimes gets a hit in the 9th in a big spot?
huge amount of subjectivity there of course, because it doesn’t take too many key (clutch) hits before everyone “knows” a player is Mr. Clutch.
and even if it is true that one guy is better in those spots, does it really matter if you can prove that the “choker” will still lead to more wins over the course of a season? Not to the anti-saber crowd, that is for sure!
If that was the case, which I don’t think it is…its a pretty silly reason to get on the guy- given in all likelihood the late innings of the game would be meaningless without the doubles and HRs earlier in the game. No player is going to get 3-4 hits every game, nor hit 1.000 in the late innings. When talking about this stuff, people act like innings 1-7 have no bearing on the outcome of the game when more often than not the “turning points” of games are those earlier innings.
Driving in runs in innings other than the 8th or 9th is not “compiling”. Its important to score runs at ANY point in the game. Even if your team is currently winning…unless its by two touchdowns…I wouldn’t consider it “compiling” or meaningless runs, especially given the difficulty this team has had in extending and holding leads over the last 4 years or so.
Wright can do better in the “clutch” and overall than he’s done these past two years…and he did back over the first 4 or so years of his career. Hopefully he can get back to that level.
And the criticism of A-Rod’s lack of “clutchness” was also pretty dumb.
Donal, it’s for topics such as this that I haven’t missed being immersed in NY hyperMEDIA created debates, I don’t care if Wright put up Ted Williams #s or Bud Harrelson ones, most NYM terams have gone ‘C’less to my knowledge, Mex was the first, then Kid pouted & they drew one on his uni also Franco? a very bad joke, a reliever, no less, closer or not pitchers don’t qualify for Cs,IMO, not even Aces; I’m dumbfounded by what outside of parroting the team party nondiclosure line does Jeter do as a Captain, his captaincy, as far as I can tell has not added one W in any season. Has Jeter the future HOFer added Ws? Certainly; but would there have been more,less or the same with or without the C? Outside the Media’s insistance for a sense of parity in the boroughs, Exactly what is it that ‘C’ is supposed to accomplish? Baseball, unlike football,hockey, basketball does not lend itself to a ‘C’ in the forefront as a TEAM sport that minimizes group efforts while primarily focused upon a singular “one on one”, pitcher/batter confrontation making the ‘C’ question superfluous! Does it help concentration? make players more inclined to seek yr advise? relieve teammates of media hounding for statements? No,No,No!
Stil waiting for ALL the times Ramon Castro came up big in big games………
Again, a guy that hits over 100 rbi’s year after year, they can’t all mean crap.
You are obessed with the guy, give it a rest already.
Really you are making me sick saying the same thing over and over about Wright – oh and “I don’t care about numbers” in other words you don’t care about the TRUTH.
You hate the kid and make up blantent lies and BS. TED WILLIAMS didn’t hit 1.000 in the clutch and neither will Wright – but he will never be good enough for your sick brain.
Oh and NO he doesn’t belong as Captain.
That title is sophmoric and belongs at the High School level not prfessional.
I don’t want to point out the obvious to you, but if the guy has a homerun, drives in 3 or 4 an has a homerun, he has ALREADY put his team in the position to win the game. I realize it must be against your mentality to realize that. If the bullpen then loses it, and Wright comes up short in the 9th, that really isn’t Wright’s fault,every time.
If a guy has 2 or 3 hits in a game but fails in the biggest spot in the game than it doesn’t matter what he’s done in his other ABs because he failed in the biggest one. People will remember the most important AB.
That’s just the way it goes in sports.
When did Ramon Castro come up in big spots in big games? You NEVER answered that question.
You’re blind hatred for Wright is a joke now. Not a day goes by that you don’t bring up how he is not clutch, don’t bringup numbers (because they only work in the advantage when YOU use them), and it doesn’t count in a game against Pittsburgh.
He’s done nothing in 7 years? You just proved what little you know.
Let me see so if a guy comes to the plate and his team is trailing 4-0 for arguments sake. He gets a single and drives a runner in from 2b to make it 4-1.
He then comes up in his next at bat and gets a 2 out double and is driven in to make the game now 4-2.
Now he comes up again with the tying runs on 2nd and 3rd and strikes out the fact that if it weren’t for him they would not even be within 2 runs of tying it means nothing and therefore everything he did prior doesn’t matter?
Sure OK whatever you say.
yes, and starting pitchers don’t really count, because they don’t get the big out at the end of games.
the big outs happen at the end of games, don’t you get it.
now that we know that, we should get the guy that has the single season record for the most saves. he must be the best pitcher ever.
or maybe we should trade him away.
ugh
yeah that’s what I said frances, the big spots only occur at the ends of games
If people cannot determine for themselves that Wright is not big pressure performer no matter if it’s in big spots or if he folds in big series – if they can’t see that after 7 years than nothing i say will make them notice it now.
So, if David Wright hits a home run in the second inning off Roy Halladay and the Mets go on to win 1-0, Wright didn’t come up big?
It’s like Bayonne said if people cant determine that Wright is not big pressure performer after 7 years nothing is going to make them notice now.
That’s just like me saying if people cant notice that their is value in a players that averages around 25+ hr’s and 100+ rbi’s a year after 7 years nothing is going to make them notice now.
Bayonne would throw out the baby with the bath water to use a different analogy.
Poor Baby.
You people don’t seem to grasp the big picture I’m talking about and instead only react sentence by sentence.
Can Wright get a big hit during the season? Yes
Did he used to get some big hits during the year when he first came up? Yes
I first noticed his propensity to fail under pressure was during the 2006 playoffs but gave it a pass cuz it was his first time.
He choked during the 07 September run, despite some nice numbers but Reyes was more culprit that year than Wright. But this is about Wright right now, not Reyes.
He certainly choked in Sept. 08 regardless of his numbers and RBIs. I remember distinctly discussing w/other members of the shoutbox that time that Wright left a LOT of men on base in Sept 08 and instead of 124 RBIs that year he should have had 140 or so. He had many opportunities to drive in runs in Sept and left many men on base during that drive.
He gets a pass in 09. But in the series vs. Marlins when the Mets had a chance at revenge for 08, even though they were not in the race, if he’s the golden boy his fans make him out to be he should have rose to the occasion during that series. He fell flat as expected.
He certainly was leaving runners on base left and right at the beginning of 2010, then got a HOT June (Mr. June). He did have a hot series vs. Pittsburgh later on late season – I remember predicting that one and I know Hitman remembers me saying that.
As for your game situations – yes he can get a big hit during the season, I’m not saying he NEVER WILL. Tom Petty has a song that where he says even the losers get lucky sometimes. Wright can help us get there – but the man cannot close the deal to save his life. He never has.
In the overall big picture – when the pressure is on – usually the rest of the Mets get the big hits, not him. That was certainly the case last year, particularly with Angel Pagan – even though it was a lost season he was a much better big spot hitter than Wright. That’s a fact.
so why do the best pitchers start games ? or are you saying that by definition relievers are more clutch than starters, and that’s why they are relievers.
wouldn’t having the all time single season saves leader be worth the most money and be the most valuable player on the team ? why would you trade him away ?
Yes 100 plus rbi’s all come in small spots. No one is saying Wright has not failed in big spots that would be foolish. The thing is that he has contributed in big spots now if those spots arent big enough for some fine but the idea that 100 plus rbi’s all came in non big spots is ridiculous.
and I love how this unemployed troll from north jersey keeps following me around the board day in and day out after many attempts to tell him not to follow me. Nothing i can or will do about it now just let this unemployed troll from a bad neighborhood follow me around everyday when he should be looking for work to support his family instead he’s on the internet everyday as the rest of us who have jobs and run businesses, our tax dollars support this troll who is always proclaiming how happy he is on the web. Yeah, internet keyboard chat reflects truth.
francis,
we’re talking about David Wright. If you want to start another discussion about pitchers that’s fine but we’re talking about Wright here.
Let’s stick to the subject. David Wright OK?
How about a reply to my points?
I will be waiting.
that’s correct francis – my analysis about Wright is in direct correlation to relief pitchers being used as starters. There is a connection.
Go tell bad jokes, that’s your strength.
so bayonne, do you admit that k-rod had the clutchest season of any pitcher ever ? and trevor hoffman is the clutchest regular season pitcher ever ?
saves end games, so they’re more clutch than wins, wright ?
No you don’t need “EVIDENCE” to see if a proper leader can help a team produce better “numbers”.
It just happens. Is there “EVIDENCE” that without Rex Ryan the Jets would not be where they are today? Is there “EVIDENCE” that the Jets would NOT be where they are today if Mangini were still coach? No there is not, just numbers after the performance, that’s it.
Proper leadership DOES HELP. It’s as old as sports and competition itself. You don’t need “EVIDENCE” at least in a statistical sense.
Bad analogy Bayonne.
The idea that The Pats would win if Belichick was never their Head coach or that Parcells Giants would win without Parcells those great years long ago is imo wrong.
The Pats without Belichick are a different team the same way the Parcell’s Giants without Parcel;ls would of been a different tteam the same as Ryan’s Jets without Ryan would be a different team.
Of course that’s just my opinion.
That comparison isn’t too good. For starters, a football head coach has a hell of a lot more influence on the personell brought onto a team than the third basemen of a baseball team.
The whole captain thing in baseball is just so the player can put it on his resume and the team can market something to fans. Its about as meaningful as high school class president.
Exactly a head coach is way way more influential in the planning of strategy and a ton of other items. I think this is just a poor analogy on Bay’s part.
Sorry, you’re wrong. You need evidence both from a statistical standpoint as well as a results standpoint. Slapping a “C” on someone’s chest and making him the de facto leader does not translate into some sudden new team dynamic for a team, nor does it ever lead to improved performance, production or results. Jeter is called a great leader because of what the Yankees have done as a team, on the Royals he becomes just another David Dejesus and the Royals are still a last placed team. Hitting in a stacked lineup gave him more run scoring opportunities, more fast balls, more chances to drive in runs, and more opportunities to go to the post season. His leadership had nothing to do with it. He’s a tremendous player in a tremendous lineup in a tremendous park for hitting. The perfect trifecta. Like I said in Kansas City he’ll make a few all star teams, but he wouldn’t lead the Royals out of a paper bag.
It’s human nature that in a group of people achieving a goal sometimes there are leaders that stand out or just evolve. TEAM SPORTS has been like that forever and if that’s what it takes for a unit to work together and succeed and it’s the natural way these things have always evolved than it works.
There are plenty of things that cannot be proven with statistical data. Statistical data is only the result of what has already happened. No way the Jets are where they are if it was Mangini instead of Ryan. And using the Royals is a bad example because EVERYBODY knows that if you don’t have the framework to win in the first place than nothing is gonna matter anyway. I’m talking about a Mets team that has a framework, a template to win.
And not only is Jeter an excellent leader and it evolved that way but he’s also been responsible (as well as others) in attaining some those championships seasons as well.
You think MetsMerized would be the success if somebody else with a different style was running it? maybe not! Joe D is the perfect person for this site. Leadership DOES count. Any evidence you’re looking for happens AFTERWARDS
On good football teams, the head coach chooses his staff, get a lot of influence over what players are brought in, mainly because its his system they will have to work in.
A baseball team is a group of individual achievers the front office brings in to compliment each other. Teams win because their players outperform the competition, not because they all love each other.
Reggie Jackson, Gary Carter, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Jose Conseco, Pete Rose are all notorious douche bags who were not loved by team mates but still managed to be central to World Series Championships. In fact, a couple of those guys have multiple rings.
I wouldn’t be so sure that team-mates wouldn’t consider Jackson, Carter, or Rose..or even Johnson and Schilling as go to guys. They may not be named leaders but I can definitely see them being looked up to by team mates for leadership. There are team mates that like players that other people consider douche bags. Look at Barry Bonds, there are team mates that swore by him but many people including myself hated his guts.
What the hell is a go to guy? A good player?
Before we go any further, without lying on the internet – have you ever played any sports?
Yes. Not professionally, but I have. And if we are going to include rec leagues (which would be really stupid if we did) I still do.
I did actually play competitively in high school and college.
Not that it has anything to do with what we are talking about.
Then you should know what a go-to guy is. I think you do.
It’s a really good player
not quite,
A go-to go could be anyone, even a bench guy, but a guy you can count on in big spots regardless of talent level.
You mean the kind of guy who, when his team is faltering and indanger of falling out of playoff contention goes on an absolute tear for the last month of the season, putting up his best results in an already MVP-caliber season?
HAVE YOU???????????????
having a “go-to” position player means next to nothing in baseball. Why ? because the line-ups are set before the game starts. you can’t go to a guy if it’s not his turn at bat, and furthermore, the other team can intentionally walk the go-to guy, unless the bases are loaded.
i’ll admit that there have been some tremendous pinch hitters ( stairs, staub ) out there. but no matter how good those guys were, they weren’t coming in for a 3-5 hitter in the ninth.
In ALL SPORTS their are team leaders and team “go to” guys that are separate from the coach/manager. That’s just the natural evolution of team competition.
One more thing. You’re analogy is very poor and misguided. Comparing naming a player captain, or a player being a leader, to a head coach or manager is a fruitless endeavor.
Being a leader is inherent as part of the duties of a head coach or a manager. Their whole job is to do one thing and that is to lead the team to outstanding results. If they cant do that than they have failed at the one important thing they were hired to do.
Bottom Line: A player is paid to play well and his efforts contribute to the overall teams effort and results. A head coach or manager is paid to lead.
Wrong again,
There are on the field leaders. Ask Keith Hernandez. You know a LOT less about the GAME of baseball than I thought because you’re too busy looking at numbers to guide your way of thinking. You caved in to numbers and let advanced metrics tell you that Mike Pelfrey is a top of the rotation starter when he’s not. How about some common sense?
Advanced metrics have nothing to do with this discussion and it’s ridiculous that you would even bring them up. This is a philosophical argument and not a statistical one. Anyway, lets agree to disagree.
Boyonne, plz don’t EVER leave this site. It’s too much fun watching you get owned…over and over and over.
Oh really? I’m being owned here? You think so? If that’s the case please feel free to contribute your own thoughts instead of piggy backing.
I brought up advanced metrics because people like you lean way too much on numbers to guide your thinking and ignore the human element of the sport and THAT’S the most important thing.
be honest bayonne.You brought up advanced metrics in your talk with Craig cause you had no counter so you went back to your old stand by. Slamming ppl who use metrics.
So sad.
Keith Hernandez? The guy who was packing his tuff and drinking a beer in the club house during the last inning of game 6 of the 1986 World Series? The guy who led off that inning with an out?
Have you ever read “The Bad Guys Won”?
Keith Hernandez was consider a leader of the 80s Mets. You already know that and so do most people.
Yes, he was statistically one of the better players on the team.
And much more than that. His presence literally changed the Mets the day he arrived in 1983.
But you already know that, that’s if….you understand sports competition.
Oh, that card. I was actually an NCAA athlete, but I realize how little that means in reality. So unless you happen to be on a Major League Baseball roster, you can pretty much shoce that one where the sun don’t shine.
Again, read the book “The Bad Guys won” and listen to the players themselves. Keith Hernandez made the Mets a better team by being a really good player.
he was a really good player AND a really good inspirational leader too.
I bet his contemporaries would tell you that too. In fact, I KNOW they would. Hernandez offered much more to the Mets than his playing ability.
What did he do that was inspirational? Get Doc and Daryl on the White Pony?
” bet his contemporaries would tell you that too. In fact, I KNOW they would.”
And yet, we have no proof of any of them saying any such thing.
“Hernandez offered much more to the Mets than his playing ability.”
Ya, his “party” connections
If I have to explain to you what Keith Hernandez meant to the 80s Mets……
I would stop if I were you before you make a bigger fool of yourself because everybody reading already knows what he meant outside of statistics
So I won’t bore the readers in telling them what Keith Hernandez meant to the 80s Mets because they already know.
Keith Hernandez meant a lot to the 86 Mets because he was one of their best players. We all know that.
Bayonee? POPPYCOCK! Leadership void? with virtually the same core from ’06 through ’10 why the discrepancy in achievement bet ’06 & the other years? Sorry; but this whole issue as far as I can tell is a Media created excuse for why they have no better idea than the front office has. All too often wasn’t Bill Madden, John Harper harpooning Delgado for his alleged negative effect on the clubhouse? Well isn’t that a form of leadership? If so, how can they clainm it doesn’t exist. That’s tantamount to the North claiming Robert E.Lee wasn’t a leader because he wasn’tr leading in the direction they preferred. I’m predicting that by the time the 22nd Century arrives Poppycock will be officially defined as the NYMet leadership issue!
Putting a C on Wright would only add to the expectations that have yet to be realized. Once the Mets win something than you can add the C.
I’ve said this time and time again every time this subject comes up: David Wright is not ready for the responsibility of being a captain, period. Giving him the title of “Captain” right now would be a mistake. I’ve read from people on here before the same old countless Wright-Jeter comparisons and how Wright should be a captain because of his “charisma”. Give me a break! I don’t know about some of you, but I’d rather wait to see if Wright reverts back to being the ’06-’07 David Wright (or finally taking that step to being the .330/35-40/130 MVP type player he should’ve been already) before he’s rewarded.
considering one the knocks on Wright is that he puts too much pressure on himself to carry the team/come through in big spots/etc., how could you possibly think that formally naming him as the person responsible for the whole teams play is a good thing?
captian bears no responsibility, it is meaningless. the bullpen catcher could be captain. its not a real thing.
agreed.
not only that, in this case it’s a story that a couple of writers without any remaining original thoughts in their heads fall back on every year, apparently to make their quota.
Hitter, Rewarded? I think the C stands for ‘C’ursed(esp.in NYC)
I am on the side of thinking that baseball teams should not have named captains. And if they want to name some guy that really dominates the clubhouse (personality wise) fine, but it is just a symbolic gesture.
and yes, teams/groups need (and have) leaders, but these are people that have the natural attributes for the role, and they are pushed to the top by the other members of the team. IOW, they lead by example, and people choose to follow them.
You can’t name someone Captain and expect it to mean anything to the team. Hell, many players might just resent it and it can backfire! If Wright is the leader of the team, people will naturally follow him, without a silly C on his jersey.
IMO, of all the team sports, BB is the one that has the least need for a captain anyway.
How many of you saw the two page spread about David Wright in Sunday’s Daily News?
That’s why David should be named Captain.
It has nothing to do with how he plays, it’s what he does for his team, and encourages his team mates to do likewise.
He is saying nice things for the press.
I doubt that his teammates buy those cliche ridden, sugar coated non senses.
this captain stuff is wildly irrelevant.
Captain for what?
Pi$$ing on his pants on tight situations?
The only guy he can scream at is Big Pelf.
Other guys will wave him off and say “Get lost,pi$$er.”
Show me proof of this.
I am not that close to him when he wets his pants. Thank God.
Show me proof that the other guys on the team wave him off.
He is a wimp, but is not stupid enough to scream at his teammates other than Big Pelf.
With his squeaky voice, it will sound like a girl complaining about her period.
you’d piss your pants if david wright grabbed you by the collar.
just sayin.
Thanks for proving once again how moronic and immature you are. You have no clue about Wright and baseball.
Oh and to Bayonne that will NEVER answer the question – WHEN DID RAMON CASTRO COME UP BIG IN BIG SPOTS, you said it in another thread and never answered the question.
In addition, your comment about him choking in September 07 and 08 is laughable. I don’t care IF you played, managed, coached or sat on the bench to put the blame on him PROVES you pay attention to nothing but Wright and wait for him to screw up. You are a disgrace, pathetic and need to get a life oh and LEARN the game.
Castro did come up with a lot of big hits in his time here. Lots of people here I’m sure remember, I know I do. I’m not making it up.
I have a feeling you know it too.
If you’ve watched Wright in all his time here and refuse to acknowledge that he chokes in high pressure situations offensively and defensively and I know you’ve seen it …then we’re watching the same games but we’re not seeing the same thing. Good thing.
And keep predicting Daniel Murphy will be our starting 2B. I predict he will not. Yes, I’m calling it before spring training. BUT – Murphy can be a very nice addition to the bench.
When have I ever mentioned Daniel Murphy ever??????
You are not giving me examples and just saying you saw it, yet you only saw Wright choke.
You need your eyes fixed.
Wright has DEFINATELY choked on occassion, no doubt, but you make it far far exagerrated. Do not take any variables into the game at all.
The kid could have put up 5 runs, team winning then bullpen blows those 5 plus 3 more, DWright comes up in the 9th and strikes out and ends the game and its Wrights fault……..completely disregarding what really happened, its Wright who’s wrong.
Jerry what is your problem?
Everyone knows that Wright’s average of 25+ HR’s and 100+ rbi’s over 7 years have all come in unclutch non pressure situations.
OK maybe he had 3 or 4 clutch rbi’s over 7 years but no more than that.
Open your eyes Jerry anyone knows that a 3rd baseman that averages 25 HR’s and 100 rbi’s a year is not worth having on a team.
Jeez wake up and smell the coffee.
I’d like to have a second basemen, Left fielder and right fielder as unclutch as Wright is.
Maybe if we had that, there wouldn’t be that many clutch situations for him to fail in.
When you think about it the last 2 years he’s been the only bat in the lineup that stays in the lineup.
“I’d like to have a second basemen, Left fielder and right fielder as unclutch as Wright is.”
What? Do you want the Mets to lose 100 games in a season T Agee?
Why you might as well ask the Mets to forfeit those games while your at it.
MNJ, I think I’d rather forfeit than watch the kind of play we’ve had from players “manning” those positions over the past few years.
So I have to base what you are saying on what YOU say you saw, just like what you saw Wright not do, and you mentioned it in the shoutbox so it makes it fact.
You don’t want to see numbers, they lie, but your eyes know the truth…
Ok – put a fork in me, I’m done, your lack of credibility was just lowered when I didn’t think it was possible.
Actually, Pelf is the last guy to go screaming at. He’s like Lenny from Of Mice and Men. Super human strong and mentally unhinged.
Jason Bay was on Boomer and Carton a few weeks ago and told a story about how Wright and Francuer pulled a prank on him, so he picked both of them up, had one under each arm, and CARRIED (not dragged) them across the club house and spiked them into the floor.
So, ya, if he did go screaming at Big Pelf, I’d say no one on that team scares him.
I agree with the original post. Captains in baseball are entirely pointless. I hate Franco’s giant C. The whole captain thing in baseball is more for show than anything.
Hells to the NO! Grade F.
North, my friend, this note was lacking a reply button; but I couldn’t pass up such a teachable moment, you posted:
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Mr North Jersey says:
January 18, 2011 at 1:51 pm Yes 100 plus rbi’s all come in small spots. No one is saying Wright has not failed in big spots that would be foolish. The thing is that he has contributed in big spots now if those spots arent big enough for some fine but the idea that 100 plus rbi’s all came in non big spots is ridiculous.
_____________________________________________________________________________To wit I reply; North did u not get or not read the memo ALL KNOWLWDGEABLE BASEBALL FANS instinctively are aware of? u know the one that boldly explains that Offensively baseball is a game of failures, where else can a professional being paid a king’s ransom fail twice out of every three oportunities & still be feted as a god? Now u want to criticize a young star for not succeeding those few times in more oportune moments? ARE U KIDDING ME? GIVE ME A BREAK! perhaps there are no small spots, just smmall minded fans. Sorry in advance; but I can’t pass this one up, North, u want small, just look stright down,(lol, I said I was sorry)lmao,even more.