29
2010
Mets Out On Lilly and Myers
An article by Hojo's Mojo
According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, count the Mets out as far as Ted Lilly and Brett Myers go.
A Mets official told me that obtaining Lilly is “very doubtful.” The Mets have talked regularly with the Cubs, but feel that there is not a match because the Mets are not willing to take on most to all of the $4 million-plus Lilly is still owed for this year and give up prospects.
As for Myers, the Mets had interest, but they found the Astros almost completely unwilling to engage in serious discussions. Myers and the Astros have a mutual option for $8 million next year, and the Mets official said, “I think Houston wants to bring him back next year.
The Mets seem to want the teams of all their targeted players, to eat a significant portion of the players salary. It points to continued financial concerns in my opinion, which goes against their denials that they are willing to spend money to make improvements at the deadline.
In addition to having teams eat a great portion of a players salary, they refuse to part with nearly a dozen different prospects and are hoping to basically give no real talent in return. It’s kind of hard to find a trading partner with that kinf iof an approach.
Also, according to Jerry Crasnick of ESPN via Twitter, the Mets still believe that they can trade Jeff Francoeur in August if they fail to move him at the deadline.
Francoeur will surely pass through waivers, but considering he will most likely be non-tendered after the season and become a free agent, I don’t know that the Mets will get mush in return for him. The reported interest from the Royals has since been debunked by their GM.
I don’t really understand the Mets philosophy this season with regards to player transactions.
A week ago they said they wouldn’t move Francoeur unless they were overwhelmed with an offer. They want to be overwhelmed for a below average rightfielder like Frenchy, but they refuse to pay face value for elite players like Cliff Lee, Dan Haren and Roy Oswalt.
Something is definitely wrong with that picture.
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Not even the Mets’ brass know what they want to do. This is basically the most poorly run organization in sports…along with the Knicks…how can New York City have such terribly run sports teams. It is truly mind-boggling.
Well that 2-9 road trip convinced Met brass that they shouldn’t deal. Why they didn’t deal in June is beyond me…The MONEY aspect has truth to it, despite their denials. The Mets will fight it out for 4th with the Marlins…ho-hum another summer of boredom…Time to start ramping up for football season. Disgusting.
Hey HOJO! The reason you don’t understand the Mets philosophy and are confused by their actions is becase like me, you actually have a clue.
Their actions are veiled to cover up the secret that they are indeed broke. You smell it, I smell it, and anyone with a brain smells it.
They wont first Minaya even though the guy is an idiot because of money.
They wont fire that clown Manuel because of money.
The wouldn’t even fire the incompetent hitting coach because of money.
They let Oliver Perez waste a roster spot in the bullpen because of money.
Castillo, another slug, should have been cut back in May.
Bay was a cost cutting move, the guy they should have gotten was Holliday.
Phillies get Roy Halladay, Mets get Igarashi.
Even bad teams like the Astros, D’Backs, Cubs and Royals have no interest in Mets prospects. Outside of NY F-Mart and Mejia (their top guys) rank in the 80′s and 90′s in the latest top 100.
So now they start pimping new bullshit prospects like Flores and Neuwinhuis and Gee who are all semi marginal at best and not even ranked.
What happened to 2 years ago when Nicke Evans, Eddie Kunz and Brad Holt were goona save the organization and were untouchable? Now nobody would touch them with a ten foot pole.
We are a joke!!!!
Well, it’s probably better that they don’t make a big trade. While there is a chance they can turn it around, you don’t want Jake Westbrook becoming Victor Zambrano 2.0. The prospects that Minaya would have to give up to get Lilly, Myers, Westbrook, or Carmona just isn’t worth it. I do think they’ll do something though. Maybe a Woods, Qualls, or Shields deal bringing in yet another disappointing, overpaid pitcher. Yes, that’s how these Mets roll these days, sadly. I would, however, swap Perez for one of those bad contracts. Go Mets.
Dont make the trade because it turns you around, make it because it makes your team better! Dont think like those jack asses running the team. Think like winning smart GMs do, like Brian Cashman, Ruben Amaro, John Schuerholtz and now Frank Wren.
Stop looking 8 weeks ahead and negotiate like a winner and not some wimp whose trying to maybe get a wild card. Does Roy Oswalt and Roy Halladay make you better now and beyond??? Yes!!!
Does Dillon Gee and Jenry Mejia strike fear in anybody’s heart???? No!!!
If youre going to call youself a big market team then act like it.
I think you are missing the big picture and that is the Mets and the majority of their fan base are identical, they both expect more from the other.
The Owners want the fans to buy more tickets and the Fans want the owners to sign and acquire better players. The problem is both sides are two damn selfish to step up and be the bigger man. That is why we will always stink, that is why other teams like the Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, Phillies can always spring for that extra salary or make that extra deal.
The Mets do not want any BIG NAME BIG DOLLAR PLAYERS… because the stadium will still remain empty no matter what.
The Cubs sell out every year and they ALWAYS suck! Why in the world do the Mets have trouble selling out their brand new beautiful ballpark, is it because they are not winning, NO, they did not sell out when they had that huge home winning streak going. It is because (Other than Seinfeld) Mets fans are cheap and rather spend their money on other crap, rather than support their team.
Other will contradict me or cuss me out, but the proof is in the pudding. If I were the Wilpons, I wouldn’t spend a wooden Nickel on this team until the fans started showing some appreciation. Hell they just built a brand new ballpark for you, what more do you want.
Bottom line is, if you want the Mets to make big dollar moves, then you sure as shit better be buying tickets, jerseys and concessions like its going out of style. If you don’t want to attend games, or want to partake in the most retarded forms of protest and not attend games to spite ownership, well don’t bitch about the teams play.
i’m tired of hearing that the mets won’t make this trade or that trade because they don’t want to pick up the rest of what a player is owed this year
fyi … what the hell are the wilpons doing with the several hundred million they are raking in with this franchise … oh that’s right paying themselves back for their stupidity with investing with madoff
What several hundred million? They average $10 million of debt in interest owed for your new ballpark each year. Check attendance, what millions of dollars? Did you write them a check or something.
You all want something for nothing. The Mets are a buisness and when your customers don’t pay, your product suffers!
Again, you have it backwards. When the product suffers the customers don’t pay.
The fans have supported this team in droves for the past five years and what do we have to show for it? One underperforming playoff year, two meltdowns and one completely crappy year. Right now its the middle of the season and we are around .500.
Sorry mate, no offense, but you don’t know what you are talking about.
If the Mets are so desperate for money – after owning a number one market team and a huge cable franchise – they are incompetant.
We don’t need fans in the seats – we need new ownership.
What the Mets really need is a change at the top. GM’s like Ruben Amaro is doing everything he can to improve the club and he gets the best pitcher available…..again. In the meantime we get Mike Hessman. There is no real plan to improve the club and us Met fan’s are stuck with the current club that is not going anywhere near the playoffs anytime soon. Not as long as the Wilpon’s own this team and their puppet, Omar Minaya is still the GM. Jerry Manuel is likeable by the media but in my opinion a poor manager. He should be a bench coach or base coach.
Something that really irritates me as well is the lack of dicipline of Jose Reyes. As a player I love the way he injects life in the lineup, but today in his last at bat he stopped running out the ground ball making an out at first. In the first game against St Louis, he was the only one on the field with his uniform shirt out of his pants, you think the Yankees would allow that? I say we get more discipline, have Reyes cut his hair (trying to be like Manny?) and try to act like guys like Cora more.
Again, a change is needed in management and ownership if our beloved team is someday going to have a fighting chance to reach the playoffs.
This isn’t news! The Mets were never in any of the pitching deals.
No money, no deals = no fans in the stands.
The place was almost full yesterday for a day game during the week…..
It was reported that the Mets had just over 40,000 yesterday, just about 6,500 above their 33,500 average this year.
But winning brings in the fans, so the Wilpons need to get cracking!!!