Updated 3/11 12:50 pm
Reyes Will Be Okay, But Needs To Completely Shut It Down For A Few Weeks…
In a surprise development to the Mets and Jose Reyes’ agent, the shortstop will remain in New York for several weeks and open the season on the DL.
Test results to determine the extent of Jose Reyes’s hyperthyroidism confirm that his levels are still too high for physical activity, according to a release by the Mets.
Doctors have told him to rest and make changes to his diet. These steps, along with medication, should allow his thyroid levels to return to a normal level. At that time, Reyes will be able to resume baseball activities. When this might happen is still very uncertain according to a conference call by Omar Minaya.
This will not be treated with medication and they do not have a specific timeframe.
The fact of the matter is that Reyes is will have to be out for weeks as opposed to days said Reyes’ agent, Peter Greenberg who is also on the conference call.
Even if he does return to physical activities, he will still have to go into some sort of extended spring training to be in condition to play everyday. For now, he has been ordered to completely shut down all activities.
Get well soon, Jose.
Thanks to Matt Cerrone for his live updates on MetsBlog of the conference call.
Updated 3:20 pm
The Reyes situation has just gotten a little more clearer and less muddled after GM Omar Minaya talked with reporters in response to comments that Jose Reyes made that he was fine.
“I had a conversation with our doctors, a conversation with his representative and we’re all in agreement that he has elevated thyroid levels.”
One of Jose Reyes’ agents, Chris Leible, confirmed the call with Minaya and said there is no communication issue.
“We’re on the same page with the Mets and we’re waiting for the test results.”
Also, according to a report by Adam Rubin, a source told him that Reyes may not even need any treatment and that just a simple dietary change could be the only course of action.
Updated 11:20 am
According to David Waldstein of the New York Times, Jose Reyes has a ‘mild and perhaps temporary case of hyperthyroidism,’ which might not require treatment, as stated by his agent, Peter Greenberg.
“We’re waiting for the final results tomorrow,” Greenberg said, “but all indications are that it’s the most minimal case of hyperthyroidism possible. The doctor was very pleased and so is Jose.”
According to Waldstein, Reyes could be cleared to play within days.
Maybe this isn’t nearly as bad as the Mets doctors let on…
Original Post 1:30 am
Hours after the New York Mets issued a statement via SNY that said Jose Reyes has an overactive thyroid, the star shortstop said “No way, my thyroid is fine.”
Here we go again…
In a story that gets stranger by the minute, Reyes told ESPN Deportes’ Enrique Rojas that he’s fine.
“The specialists who took care of me in New York have told me that I’m fine and that there’s nothing wrong with my thyroid. The test [taken to follow one conducted during his physical] showed that I’m fine. We just have to wait for the results of the additional test. The [doctors] found inflammation in my throat and no medicine to treat the thyroid or any other condition has been prescribed.”
Last week doctors cleared Reyes to play Friday, but team doctors in New York wanted to take a closer look at him and scratched him from his scheduled game and had him fly to New York for more testing. The Mets said on Tuesday that Reyes is expected to remain in New York while the results of additional blood tests are used to determine his treatment after tests confirmed he has an overactive thyroid. The additional test results aren’t expected back before Thursday.
This is the second time in as many months that the Mets and one of their players have had conflicting reports about their health, diagnosis and treatment, the other being Carlos Beltran.
It looks like this will become yet another media circus, as once again it appears that somewhere between the player, the doctors and the Mets there is a total breakdown in communication.
In a span of three hours, both the Mets and Jose Reyes have issued statements regarding this alleged thyroid condition, and each version is a complete contradiction of the other.
Why does this keep happening?
What the hell is going on with this team? Can we really be this bad?
Everyone, who sees Jose Reyes as a sophisticated, well educated individual able to distinguish between what Doctors say from what techs & nurses may indicate as “don’t worry, You’ll be fine, rassurances.
Please raise your hand! First off most of those comments most likely were issued in English, Reyes’ interview was obviously in Spanish. Was a Rhodes scholar doing the interprting for him?
Either way, bottom line is this whether his thyroid is hyper or hypo or normal makes absolutely no difference, this was a Chinese firedrill FUBAR from the very beginning, Why disrupt him by flying him rather than overnighting his blood samples. Are there no competant nurses capable of drawing blood in FL? Rather I submit, as a person who’s personally been down the hyperactive thyroid road, this was an exercise designed to eliminate the Church type headlines that the organization was LAX OR UNRESPONSIVE.
TOO MUCH ADO ABOUT ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!!! Hell, Gail Deevers ignored her hyper condition to the point of almost losing a foot to amputation, then without fanfare was put on proper medicine & proceeded to claim Giold Medals like they were SB for Reyes.
This keeps happening because of the media. Everyone wants to be the first to report a story, but that doesn’t mean they are the most accurate. These things take on a life of their own and I’m just ready to watch jose play some ball. From what I see, he’s good so that’s a positive for all Mets fans. Let’s just try to get this guy back on the field!!!!!
LGM!!!!!!!
I cannot see the justification for interupting his spring training to test his thyroid condition. Unless and until there was a consensus diagnosis, his personal physical condition should have remained private.
Further, if the organization wanted him to be tested beyond last week’s examination, then they should have required the doctor to fly down to Florida and not flown Reyes to New York. And all of this activity should have not been disclosed until a final diagnosis was achieved.
Like I said, the Mets need a PR Director that knows what he or she is doing. Currently, they do not.
I want to say this gently and please do NOT misunderstand and do not label me a racist, and hear me out.
Do you think perhaps there is a language barrier and some misunderstanding? Maybe he thinks that he is fine and that he’ll be back soon, perhaps the doctor said something and he took it the wrong way?
Come on folks – we’ve all had our own medical maladies and sometimes we don’t even understand without it being explained a few times.
Maybe he THINKS he’s fine because he had no symptoms? He is stubborn and wants to play so bad.
Lets take a deep breath and wait this one out before the Fire Omar, Fire Front Office, Sell the team chants start……….
Well, Reyes may have been talking about the seriousness of the situation. When he said he was fine, it may be relatively speaking; as in its not cancer or something life-changing.
Exactly – but in the age of constant media, never given a second to all get on the same page, right away it means the front office screwed up.
Maybe his agent should have had a conversation with the Mets before having Reyes talk to the media.
I know I know – all the cool kids would rather jump to conclusions and kill the front office.
Butch husley is a racist…
He’s basically implying that jose reyes is either stupid by not understanding the doctors becoz he’s not a fluent english speaker.. that’s how I took it..
That is because you are a 12 year old with a 7 year old mentality.
Apparently you are not fluent in English. Did you fail spelling and grammar in school, oh wait, you didn’t get to those classes yet.
I may not be fluent in english, but I know a racist when I see one..and you butch husley, are a racist.. but don’t worry, every blog has one..I’ll make sure I’ll let everyone that ur the one here..
Mamaguevo!!
With all due respect, Alex, you don’t have the right to address Butch as a racist. He was expressing his humbled opinion.
Actually, Butch makes a very important point. Communication is extremely important in patient care, and we spend a huge portion of school learning how to do it properly. All it takes is a few words or even a misunderstanding of inflection which could be due to language barrier or cultural issues to make a difference in the patients’ understanding of their condition. It can affect the seriousness with which they view their condition and the way they approach and adhere to their treatment. You could have a Ph.D in english from Harvard and still misunderstand your doctor due to bad communication on either person’s part. Its a serious matter and Butch isnt necessarily a racist for pointing it out!
So lemme get this straight, u guys are defending butch the racist huskey becoz he’s pointing out that due to the lack of english of jose reyes he misundertood the doctors when the mets have been the ones wit PR problems since god knows long?!? U guys amaze me, I respect everyone’s opinion here, but it was obvious he was out of line by saying what he said.. there’s no other way for me to put it other than he was being racist towards jose, but u know what, is cool man, every blog needs a guy like him.. I’m out peace.
No sir – YOU are out of line, I never said ANYTHING of the sort, and prefaced my comments that I had something to say and did NOT want my point to get lost. You and your immature ways ran with it.
Thanks Shamik – you understood my point.
Dude, your big mistake was saying “I’m not a racist but…” Take out that line and everything in your comment makes perfect sense.
I made TWO big mistakes – you are right I should never have prefaced it with that, it sends up the red flag for the idiots, and my second mistake was even wasting my time in banter with this kid.
Lets Go Mets
you simply have to stop all this racist talk. There are children on this blog!!!!!! (Quite a few, in fact.)
Agreed.
This PC BS is getting tiresome. first off Hispanic is NOT a race. it’s an ethnicity group & any bias against them is bigotry not RACISM! Obviously, Reyes, the original topic is not highly educated since he signed his first pro contract @ age 16 and he certainly isn’t dumb/stupid or ignmorant as some imply, he’s just not all that well educated. History is full of people who accomplished great things without substantial formal education. for those who migh think me bigoted, I;ll also stipulate that in today’s expectations David Wright is not all that educated, either. Typically the press tends to expect too much sophisticated understanding from players whose backgrounds do not include anything more than rudimentaery formal education & for many high moral character. making them substantially better human beings than many of those writing & depicting them as wanting. So, can we all agree that A CRITICAL COMMENTARY AIMED AT AN INDIVIDUAL that is based on FACTS GERMANE TO THEIR ETHNICITY IS NOT racism; but may be an accurate depiction of that individual and not necessarily his entire ethnic group. George Washington Carver certainly accomplished GREAT endeavors in his field despite his lack of formal education; but he was certainly about as far from dumb as it’s possiblee to be. BTW it is possibly very possible George Washington Carver may also have done some STUPID THINGS. again, not making him stupid, just VERY,VERY HUMAN.
My choosing to interject here may be interpreted by some as STUPID; but I & some that I know would vehemently disagree, some may just as vehemently agree esp #1 & #2 spouses lol
Let me make the following vewr,very clear; I AM A BEHAVIOR BIGOT!
I despise childish behavior from adults. I despise the BEHAVIOR; not the INDIVIDUAL!
Some of u at times have accused me of being insulting, on the contrary, I believe I have never insulted any of you despite some Venomous disagreements. I am guilty at times of criticizing behavior & judgement; but I truly respect all of you and many of your conclusions.
aLEX, NOW i CERTAINLY WOULDN’T IMPLY JOSE WAS STRUPID; BUT EVEN U HAVE TO CONSIDER HAVING SIGNED A PROCONTRACT @ AGE 16, HIS FORMAL EDUCATUION MOST CERTAINLY SUFFERED. I BELIEVE THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING POORLY EDUCATED & STUPIID. JOSE IS CERTAINLY NOT STUPID CONSIDERING THE SPEED BY WHICH HE MASTERED ENGLISH TO HIS LIMITED EXTENT & CERTAINLY HE IS NO RHOSDES SCHOLAR CANDIDATE!
WOW how ignorant are you? So he is no rhodes scholar cause he cant speak perfect english? since when is that a marker for intelligence levels? So if a native english speaker cant speak spanish, he is still a genius right???
just so wrong dude.
The lack of reading comprehension on this board really scares me. It proves our educational system is very bad shape.
Aye, my comment that Jose’ isn’t a Rhodes scholar candidate in my opinion, has absolutely nothing to do with his ethnicity. I would say the same exact thing about anyone, ballplayer, or not who quit school to go to work at age 16. If u consider that bigoted or biased, you’re just looking for an excuse. Remember, I’ve also maintained that education level has no pertinance to intelligence level, too often on this site do I see the ignorance of people displayed by they’re labeling anyone who doesn’t agree with them as STUPID!
Butch, you’re on to something; but uou’re overthinking it. Take exactly who Jose refer4enced when saying he was told he was OK, it wasbn’t Doctors, butt the people “handling” him in the Dr’s offices, Me, I understand that to include Nurses & Tewchnicians(those actually drawing his blood) BTW a proathlete like this gets much more attention from the staff than u or I. Let’s take, only what was reported, berdfore going to NY, right after being informed about Thyroid concerns, Jose’s statements regarding his peception about his health, indicated to me, a forner Graves disease sufferer, that Jose was too nervous & overly concerned. Now combining that with his immaturity & hyper active tendencies along witrh the spurious inuendos flying about an unfounded connection to HGH & Dr. Galea, is it a stretch to conclude Jose was very overly nervous in front of these normally compassionate medical pros where they felt a necessity to ease his mind by telling him things like, “thyroid problems aren’t anything to overly worry about”, “you’ll be fine”, “if there’s a problem, the doctor will prescribe some medicine & you’ll be fine if u take it”. Jose is told he can leave; he has no prescription, therefore in his mind, THERE’S NO PROBLEM! No in this instance I don’t fully believe there was a failure to communicate due to language; but much more the typical, hopeful actions & conclusions of a young immature for his asge INDIVIDUAL.
@ Butch~ you question did not come across as racist. I would imagine that Jose would have someone there to translate anything he may not understand…
I would think so too, but………even so, I know I’ve had some different things over the years, and its not always clear when the doc explains the first time. One – you may be upset and not “listening” clearly. Two – it doesn’t make sense to the lay person.
I’m just throwing this stuff out there before everyone gets their panties bunched.
Thanks for replying.
I think Reyes understood the docs perfectly fine. I think he just didnt convey it properly to the media. When he said nothing’s wrong and everything’s fine, he probably meant that it wasnt something especially serious like thyroid cancer or Grave’s disease or something. From the NYT reports, its just a transient, mildly elevated thyroid condition probably brought about from him being sick or because he had a lot of seafood lately (lots of iodine).
Again, a guy that makes millions, that belongs to a team that’s worth millions don’t u think he or somebody would’ve just translate it?? But butch huskey felt the need to defend the team by making his racist comments coz that’s the easy way out.. is easier to call reyes stubborn, or dumb than actually calling out jay horowitz, or the wilpons, or minaya..
Whoa, there Alex! Exavtly what diooes $$$ have to do with anything? When I look at these players, I see young people in various stages of development(as adult humans, not players). While his birth certificate may indicate 27; by my observations, I believe Jose’s maturity level is more akin to age 17-19 for various reasons, I don’t ever recall hearing mention of siblings, making him possibly an “ONLY CHILD” and as the Family’s ticket out of poverty, (THE MEAL TICKET) which most likely defined him as the family PRINCE, subsequently spoiled. Jose has certainly shown a headstrong capacity for the occasional tantrum with a taint of “know-it-allism” Consider this, for a speed-burner in the NL leadoff spot, his proportion of bunting for hits is minimal esp when u consider it’s reported his father was known in his day as a premere bumter in the Dominican semi-pro leagues. That in itself tells me he can be headstrong & “I can do it, myselfish” Jose is also extremely proud of having learned English as quickly as he did and the “kid”
I’ve described is unluikely to accept a translator escort for prideful reasons.
What I describe re. Jose, is not a flaw; but a developmental process, a phase he’ll likely outgrow. I believe Jose is a jewel of a kid, who’d be disappointed in himself if he ever hurt anyone’s feelings, a very sensitive kid always looking to play & have a good time without a mean bone in his body. Jose certainly isn’t tough in his actions; but can be tough in his reactions.
BTW can someone possibly call Brandon Tierney’s show to explain to him the treatment of Hyperthhyroidism hasn’t included the word surgery for about 25-30 yrs. I come from an extended family rift with thyroid issues incl an aunt who suffered a teenage death from thyroid issues before I was born in ’49. My teenage son has a family tree chock full of throid issues from both sides of his gene pool and when at age 13 it was discovered he required treatment with HGH in order to exceed his projected 5’4″ adult height projection. I exhaustively interviewed & searched for possible connective issue between Thyroid & HGH, finding no direct correlation as natural growth hormone is a product of pituatary secretions, bot thyroid(metabiolic). Even after a plethora of assurances, I still insisted upon his pediatrician’s reg thyroid testing while his endochronologist managed his HGH growtrh issues for the entire treatment plan(5 yrs). My son is now 5’8″ with the potential for up to 1″ of continued “spine growth” and without any of his family’s thyroid irregularities.
THIS OVERREACTIONARY OVER THE TOP CHINESE FIREDRILL METHOD OF HANDLING THIS BY FO IS, TO ME, UNPROFESSIONAL & INCOMPETANT! IF THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF JEFF’S NEW ORDER, THEN PERHAPS WE’LL BE BETTER SERVED HIRING VOODOO PRIESTS & WITCHDOCTORS.
Sham, this has beem a melodrama purely caused by a reactionary FO response to a slightly abnormal routine bloodtest. In my opinion, there’s absolutly no excuse for shutting the kid down & ruxhing him to NY; Hell, Gail Devers ignored her condition totally for years before ever being diagnosed or seeing a Dr to the extrme point of near amputation, yet even with her late treatment program, she returned to normal & won Gold Medals up the wazoo! What Jeff & company basicly did was send an ambulance for a routine flu case, in light of the fallout from their approved Galea treatments, the subsequent firestorm should have been foreseen & avoided by more routine treatment of a routine matter.
Jeff’s new revised medical procedures are reactionary window dressing on a tenement building.
I agree with you and also would think that Reyes had a translator around to explain whatever he was being told by the doctors.
I’m wondering if Reyes has his own private doctors that he is seeing like Beltran did?
This is another screw up by the Mets and its medical staff. Dr. Riviera comes out of the wood works again. What a joke.
This is another case of the fan base jumping off the ledge and placing blame on something that means jack.
Sooner or later in blogs ppl like u butch huskey come out, how do u know this is on jose reyes?? How do u knowanything that’s going on?? But again, is easy to say, I’m not a racist before making a racist comment.. that should be forgiven just coz u apologize first before making a stupid comment.
Butch Husky is a Torii Hunter of MMO.
How do YOU know its not?
Enough of this Fluff!
I am tired of reading about negative Mets PR, front office b.s., mis-communication, blah, blah, blah.
- When has Mets PR ever been good, Never!
- When has the front office ever made the moves we all begged for, Never!
- When has Owner to GM to Manager to Media Communications ever been accurate, Never!
Everyone is acting like all of this has just happened out of the blue. This b.s. has been going on for decades, but all of a sudden we find it news worthy.
Everyone needs to get a grip on Reality…
I don’t love my Mets because they have a shotty front office with clueless owners…
I don’t spend hundreds of dollars on tickets and clothing and posters and pennants because Omar and Jerry can get on the same page…
I don’t bleed blue and orange because the Mets medical staff chooses to tell us one thing when it really is another…
I do all of this because despite having a owner who isn’t committed 100% to his team, despite my GM and Manager not being on the same page, and despite a PR department that hires from military black ops personnel;
Despite all of that, I do it because I love my Mets through and through, and will never give up on them. If I give up on them, then no one can ever blame the club, team, owner, whoever for giving up on us.
SO ENOUGH WITH THE DOOM AND GLOOM, I want to read positive stories about how we can win with what we have. How a once around-the-clock negative Mets fan is going to turn over a new leaf and be supportive this team. Lets use this forum to encourage Mets fans to sell out our ballpark and send a message to our owners that we are going to support our team no matter what, and maybe, just maybe, ownership will see this message and say
“You know what, I owe it to our fans to get that piece we need to win it all”.
Negativity is contageous, if you can’t find some reason to be excited and positive about our Mets, than your just a Yankee fan who is too poor to afford Yankee tickets.
I think Mets over reacted by sending him to NY. There are excellent doctors here in Florida and he didn’t need to go to NY. Why couldn’t the Mets doctors come down here, check the tests, order more tests and then set up treatment? The cost of travel would be no different than Jose flying to NY. This all could have been handled in Florida. I hope this over cautiousness does not affect the team this summer. All this flying to NY to cover their past ineptness is just ridiculous. Jose will be fine, despite the over reaction by Mets front office, and hope to see him in games this weekend. Lets move on, Johan looked healthy today, David looks ready for a great come back, and Davis looks good hitting but his fielding is nutty and inconsistent. Enough with the negative stories, lets strive to post some positive things that are happening with the young prospects Mets have that are show casing this spring.
Thyroid conditions can be serious, however, thats really if they get out of control and are untreated/undiagnosed for a long time. Reyes is young and has had his health scrutinized constantly over the past few years. If this is a chronic condition, I doubt its a serious one, and it’s probably been caught early enough that with proper meds, diet, exercise, rest that Reyes should be just fine. This may also be temporary thyroid overactivity secondary to an infection or even just all the stress he’s put on himself to get back into form for the season. I really think that the Mets are taking no chances and making sure they fully understand his condition and are doing their due diligence on Reyes. I doubt this will affect him in any tangible way long-term.
I said it before & I’ll say it again. There is a problem w/ the Mets Medical Staff. I don’t know who’s making any of the medical decisions but they need to clean house and get some good people in there. Until then, we’re going to hear more of this BS.
Are you kidding? This potentially could have been serious, had they gone with the casual attitude and waited it, we could have seen a very sick Reyes and lost him for a LONG time, they take the road of caution this year and STILL are wrong?
Are you a doctor?
Very true. The name of the games these days in medicine (and in the Mets trainer’s office apparently) is prevention. I’d much rather Reyes miss a bunch of meaningless ST games to get fully checked out than have a much more serious condition later in the year. The Mets learned the hard way that its best to nip the situation in the bud before it escalates out of control like they did last year.
Butch, I’m not a Dr; but I am a thyroid sufferer. SERIOUS? Not so much, 60+ yrs ago, certainly; but not today. My wife’s Father,Uncle & Grandmother all had their hyperactive thyroids treated surgically in the 70′s; I also had Hyrper issues, yet after yrs of medical treatment with prescription medicines of varying strengths, it was recommended I consider having my thyroid gland physically reduced. where that meant surgery for my many in-laws, it hasn’t since the mid-80s when surgical reduction was discontinued as the primary reduction procedure & replaced with eblation by radioactive iodine treatment. Both treatments are permanent,irreversable courses of action; but are far from perfect in specifically reducing the gland enough to return the thyroid’s function to a stable normalized level of functtion. Too little reduced, hyper condition continues at a lesser rate, too much, hypoactive(to low) ciondition follows requiring subsequent continued monitoring & tretment with synthetic hormone(SYNTHROID) that comes in microgram levels for micro adjustments.
Basicly JOSE’S CONDITION IS VERY TREATABKLE, EASILY MANAGABLE, MINIMALLY THREATENING; BUT VERY CHRONIC(NO LIKLLY “PERFECT” CURE)
As his tests reveal only slightly elevated levels his most likely course of treatment should include a daily dose(pill) of medicine designed to neutralize his condition, a 1 wk callback to ascertain effectiveness then continued monthly bloodtests running his T4 & TSH levels as a monitoring protocol. Most likely, he’ll fall into remission, which can reignite, to begin treatment protocol all over again,. we’re talking years here with extremely minimal effect on his abilities to perform professionally. Should his condition advance to the point of requiring eblation as a solution, he’s unlikely to be shutdown from extreme athletic exercise for more than 48 hrs at an extremely overcautous reaction.
I mentioned 60+ yrs only due to having lost a teenaged aunt to hyperthyroid complications(goiter) prior to my bith in ’49.
So, yes, it used to be very serious, requiring surgery at times; but today, not so much. today the extreme treatment requires the drinking of a not pleasant tasting chalky substance while standing in front of an x-ray type machine. Unfortunately, in these days of internet diagnostics, it seems most browsers are choosing to only read the “worst case” scenerios that comprise less than 1% of the successful treatment cases
DJ, correct me if I’m wrong; but I do not believe any of us have ever heard any of the Met’s contracted Medical staff directly without frontoffice filtration. In light of the considerabble accomplishments & Medical accolades recieved by it’s head Dr Alchek, it seems most likely that the actual Doctors are being misinterpreted accidently or deliberatly by the frontoffice staff responsible for Medical communications & action plans(per Fred, his son Jeff has total responsibility in this area). Need I say more? As u may want to stop repeating yourslelf when slandering renowned medical professionals.
To a great degree, I believe the angst over all this is attributable to Fantasy baseball as fans feel a need to know all things regarding players they may have on their rosters. When u really come down to it not much of this is new, it’s just getting new emphasis as I can personally recal a game where Mex ‘s hammy went out while running bet 2nd & 3rd, his subsequent d/l absence lasted a seeming eternity. With many misleads about his return to action date, btw, there was no fantasy leahgues & fans weren’t building effigies.
Frankly, I don’t know why Reyes is being checked out at HSS. Its an overrated orthopedics specialty hospital. I’m assuming they sent him to Cornell right next door to be checked out. At this point I really have no faith in the Mets medical staff to keep anyone healthy and prevent injuries and keep players on the field.
Sham, here’s what I recall about HSS’s initial involvement with NYM, relativey quickly after his hiring, Omar dismissed the established Medical/Training staff that had been directly hired by the team. in lieu of hiring actual doctors directly as they had always done, Omar chose to outsource the area via a SERVICES CONTRACT with HSS, a logical source since most athletic medical needs are typically Orthopedically related. As typical NYM luck would have it two of the more high profile injuries (Church & Reyes’ latest) are irrelevant to HSS’ specialty. I don’t know how exclusive HSS’ control over supplying non-ortho consulations are. I’m confident the Neurological & Endochronolical wings @ HSS are extremely limited.
SHAM, have u ever considerede applying as in-house med director? We most likely need one. In my opinion, when Jeff did his arduous study this offseason, the hiring of an actual MD to coordinate dispersal of information was a critical component to fixing the issues of ’09. What say u? I’m just a fan sans alphabet soup following my surname. I believe that regarding injuries & medical conditions the cacophony from the Met’s orchastra will contine as long as a trained conductor is absent.
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The bullet struck the lineup right on top of Reyes’ name! No baseball for 8 weeks. This is absolutely crushing
So I guess all the Mets fans who were complaining that the front office was wrong to fly him back to NY for further tests will be singing a different tune. Lets hope its just a few weeks and not the full 8. Lets Go Mets
Can we all just come together for a meeting in a bar and slit our wrists right now? Hey Omar, great job planning for a good Reyes backup. Gee, I’m sure glad we’ve got Alex “no range” Cora ready to step in.
Look for Ruben Tejada to possibly be the guy to take his place. They might decide to keep Cora as the backup.
Although having a strong start to a season is important, its not everything. So everyone that’s ready to write off the season needs to relax. The report says just a few weeks. Do we have to be reminded that play off positions can be lost in September. The only thing I fear at this point is if this drags out longer than they first mentioned. Other than that lets just wait and see as this all unfolds.
This is NO time to be the voice of reason!
Ok lets hit the panic button!
Well, thanks to the great omar minaya now we have to live wit a middle infield that includes crap-illo and alex “thanks for the 2 million even though I’m a career 244 hitter wit no range or skills” cora for a least a month, again, had we sign felipe lopez we mightve had at least someone who’s good at ss and 2b in case something like this happen, now someone is even mentioning the kid tejeda as a replacement!!!!
This kid is not even good in class A yet!! Danny k do some research please!
Now A. Hernandez is a better option, and I rather have him than cora..
Thank u,
Either way let’s go mets!! Fire omar!! B.husky is a racist!
Did the opening day lineup come out? You know it is stone that Alex Cora will be the opening day SS.
I find it ironic YOU telling someone to do some research.
Alex 68
I’m going to admit something to you Alex. I might have jumped the gun on calling out Tejada for the opening day shortstop. I’d say it’s his fielding not hitting that will hold him in the minors.
By the way he played a full year at AA at age 19 last year and will play AAA this season.
So who do you add to your roster to replace Reyes? Anderson Hernandez? Russ Adams? It’s only for a month hopefully.
I hope youre right and it is Tejada. Im not looking forward to just handing the job to Cora.
Tejada might not be ready defensively. He made 18 errors at AA last year. Comparing him to Elvis Andrus of the Rangers. Andrus is one year older and played at age 20 a full season with Texas last year batting .267 with 40 RBI. He did have a +11 UZR and made 22 errors.
If I’m wrong about Tejada’s defense, he could get a shot.
Ok danny, the thing is tejeda can’t hit, or at least his numbers don’t back it up even though he hit 289 last year he’s got no power and is not that fast, he meade 21 errors last year which is a lot for someone touted as a defensive whiz, he’s not even close to be ready, now, A. Hernandez is a good defensive player we can use in reyes’ absence..
Huskey, u still a racist in my eyes, go away..
Adam Kennedy who signed for only 1.25MM would have been better than Cora. He batted .289, 11 HR, 63 RBI. Too bad we missed the boat.
Again, omar minaya holds on too much, if one of those has been revives and has a so so season omar gives them 2 more years!!!
Tatis, el duke, castillo, cora.. that’s why in a situation like this having cora play more than once a week is a problem!!
Had we sign cora around this time would’ve make sense, it wasn’t like his phone was ringing off the hook!!!!!
How many teams r looking for a career 244 hitter wit no range to give him 2 million dollars!!?? Only our stupid ass gm would do something like that!
I was shocked when signing Alex Cora was our first move of the offseason. I thought it was illogical then and I feel the same now.
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My only question is Mets do physicals when season ends and this didn’t show up? What could of happened between then and now, his diet is probably the same, strange.
I am with you on the Cora deal Joe. Mets need a SS that can field and not worry about hitting for now. I think Valdez was the SS they got from Detroit last year and correct me if I am wrong but he played a good SS. A. Hernandez and Cora do not have the range to make up for what Luis can’t get to at 2b and the Mets staff, especially Pelf, are going to wonder why they are being treated like this. Tejada, I have not seen enough but he is young. Cora does not have the range, repeat, range to help the Mets staff and he should not be starting. Maybe Mets can pick up a SS released in spring, the kid Luis today did not look too good. Praying for a quick recovery for Jose, I know this is tearing him apart, but we need him for a long season and a couple of weeks won’t hurt maybe keep him fresh. Repeat, Cora is not the savior so Omar, please do not pat yourself on the back.
I hope Jose is OK and he comes back soon, but the immediate issue is, Omar Minaya passed on Lopez when he could have been had for cheap. He overpaid for Cora early. Now the Cards have insurance with an everyday capable player and the Mets have Cora, who will again be exposed as nothing more than a spot starter. Not to mention this will provide many of the 80 starts Cora needs to have his $2M deal for next year vest. Minaya overpays often and rarely gets quality at a discount when it is available. Forget about his communication skills, he is a scout in way over his head as a GM. By now he should have taken control of the Mejia issue and he and Manual should be in agreement not contradicting one another and sending mixed signals to the kid. Alot of this communication stuff is overblown media stuff because something must be reported so they run with it. Fact is, Reyes has a thyroid problem. No amount of communication will change that. If the team had a good alternative this would be less an issue. No amount of communication skills will change that. If Minaya was making smart moves to build depth and the team wins as a result he could speak jibberish all day long and it would be funny instead of sad.
NC, we’ve disagreed on the Cora issue previously & just as u haven’t altered yr opinion, neither have I as I believe Cora’s 2M was well deserved if for no other reason than his leadership & example of putting team first by playing weeks with 2 badly injured thumbs. The idea of any NY team getting any player of value at any deep discounted price is ludicrous since any other team could easily offer equal or less & still have the player netting more money in his pocket as NYC is easilty the highest tasxed MLB location in the US. I’ve personally lived in GA,NJ,DE,CA,NC & can attest to the huge differential to net income the metro area taxes(income,sales,property) causes both directly & indirectly.While I love the recollection of living in NYC; I wouldn’t return for any possible reason. Thank God for Direct-tv!
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I am with you on the living in NY. I moved away 20 years ago and over 4 moves slowly went south to NC. While I miss NYC at times and love visiting, I prefer it now in short bursts. And yes, thank God for MLB Extra Innings. It was rough before it was available in my area. As for Cora, he just isn’t as good a baseball player as other players the Mets passed on (Lopez, Kennedy). I don’t know if I buy into the ‘he deserves it’ arguement; I prefer a good BA, OBP, & defensive range from a SS as opposed to clubhouse leadership. Ask the Met pitchers about leadership when groundball after groundball makes it through the Met infield of Cora and Castillo. Those two will add 15 points the the NL East batting averages. That’s why Lopez made so much sense, he could replace Castillo when a groundball pitcher was on the mound and serve as a hedge against injury for both Castillo and Reyes. Cora would be fine as a bench guy that plays when a fly ball pitcher is on the mound. Maybe it won’t be too bad since Perez, Maine, and Santana are fly ball pitchers. Regardless, I see Lopez as a missed opportunity that the team will now pay for with lesser defense than was available at a prime defensive position. I view that as poor GM work.
NC, try to envision yourself with limited financial parameters, justifiably, you would consider yourself more likely to need Cora @ 2B than SS where he’s a much more able defensive player & where Castillo defied odds healthewise in ’09. Certasinly, if Reyes’ current thyroidal issues were predictable or even remotely forseeable, Cora most likely isn’t your pick; but if push came to shove you’d have to avoid spending for that luxurious extra tier of experienced backfill as u were forced to shoot most of the 20M u were given for the Musts on your needs list. BTW, typically those “bargains” signed by others are unavailable to NY teams due to Net differentials further impacted by uppermost costs of living & lack of family oriented superior services ie.public education (see Hampton). HIGH costs & mediocre services quickly erode the off-field positives NY had always been valued for. Gone are the spending money contracts for Shaving, Smoking,Drinking ads replaced by twice as many PSL demands.
What bothers me most is that I see the Mets make what I think are a series of random signings with no sense of priority, and then the money runs out and then a guy like Lopez or Kennedy is not pursued when they can be had cheap. Even if $1.25M in St. Louis = $2M in NY, he was still worth signing. If Cora demanded $2M in November then tell him you’ll get back to him and see how the season unfolds. He’s just not very good and no team would be in a rush to pay high dollars for him. Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospective just weighed in as Tejada being a better option than Cora since at least he has average range and a decent arm with offensive upside when compared to Cora. Goldstein is well respected for his knowledge of minor league talent. It’s the body of work by Omar that chaffs my ass. As long as he is the GM the Mets will underacheive. With the core players and budget he has there is no reason a well run organization wouldn’t have viable replacements to deal with injuries and at least stay competetive until the core comes back. Given the core players and budget, the Mets team should be in the playoffs 50% of the time.
NC, Body of work? what bothers u?
BELTRAN
PEDRO
DELGADO
SANTANA
WAGNER
K-ROD
SANCHEZ
FRANCOEUR
BAY
I wonder what Lopez or even Tejada’s numbers would look like playing months with 2 badly injured thumbs? There aren’t a ton of benchers that would have stuck through the pain for a team they don’t have a long established relationship with for a barely reasonable 2M in NYC. I really don’t know what u expect to find on the bench? By many accounts Cora established himself as a fine leader in the clunhouse, as such the impact of how management treats him has a larger resonance than most benchers would have. If u are attempting to toughen up a perceived ‘soft’ clubhouse, you certainly don’t do it by dissing the only bonafide ‘gamer’ from the past season, esp one many of the younger players are looking up to. you don’t need anyone thinking why bother playing hurt if they’re going to treat u that way. Rather for the measly 800K diff bet Cora & Lopez this yr, u get, at minimum, the same extolling leader who’s still as fervent & likely appreciative of being appreciated. Otherwise, NC, your foistering a Ramon Castro malaise. Haven’t we learned the numbers on the back of the cards, don’t guarantee anything? U have no clue if Loopez would be resentful being paid so little in high-priced NY or if he’d not quit when he could’ve easily become another d/l captive? Leadership by example extends to the frontoffice also!
So they are now saying that he could be shut down anywhere from two to eight weeks with the possibilty of being on the DL when the season starts.
Sounds a lot like last year when they had to shut him down for a short period of time and he ended up not playing again.
I know that this is not injury related but rather a medical problem and I think he should take as much time as he needs. But it doesn’t make it any less frustrating to us Mets fans. This constant vauge information of when players can play.
So the scorecard reads that Beltran will be on the dl at the start of the season and Reyes may be on the dl.
And I don’t think the team will tank coming out of the gate without these two guys – but rather it will be more .500 ball while other teams will leave us in the dust.
This is exactly like last year.
I cant even believe the things that are posted in this board. So because of a language barrier jose reyes doesnt even know his own condition. He is so stupid he cant even understand as its not in english..
I mean intelligent people just need to speak english. Screw french, asian, russian, and spanish speakers. Italians too. I mean why would they be intelligent? No way. English ONLY okay. Bet you all supporters.
I got a better idea on who is stupid.
Thank u aye, I got an idea on who’s stupid too, torii hunter who needs to apologize to all the latin american race, and butch huskey to the entire site.
But don’t worry anymore aye, I’m sure ppl see him for what he is, a racist hidding out.. I’ve said this before, even if he didn’t know english someone would’ve told him what is the diagnostic of his health, heck for all I know the doctor could’ve been spanish, but no, he needed to say jose’s lack of english was the reason for the misunderstanding..
Either way, don’t worry about racist ppl no more, every blog has 1 or 2 that come out and many more that hide it well, I am 100% dominican and I’m proud to say my first language is spanish, yet, I’ve graduated twice in this country, and knowing 2 languages is an advantage in case an emergency comes up and someone like me can help, knowing italian, spanish and english doesn’t make me smarter than anyone, but I hate stupid closed minded ppl like B huskey who needed to say that to feel better..
With all due respect to both of you, This is a New York Mets site, and furthermore, a baseball site.
I feel it would be better if you stopped calling Butch a racist. There are younger people who read on this site, myself being one of them, and a lot of people who may take offense to said statement. I understand that is your opinion, but I would feel better if you didn’t make it so blatant.
Ohhhh, so u come after me and aye and yet u never said anything to the racist huskey right?? This is a mets blog, just becoz he used to call a mets player ignorant gives him a better pov on things??
U know what, I’m gonna move on becoz I like this site and joe d, so I’m gonna turn the other cheek, but if ur gonna call me and aye out u should’ve did the same wit huskey, he started all this.. don’t be so biase
The way you are expressing yourself is clearly indicative of your race’s potential.
I just took personal offense because you went and called somebody out to be a racist. He didn’t blatantly call a Mets player ignorant, and he wasn’t trying to imply it. On the other hand, you called him a racist in clear english. I’m not trying to call you out, i’m just respectfully asking you to stop calling him a racist.
ENOUGH – GROW UP I am NOT a racist and if you KNEW how to read and READ the entire post you would know that – you’re childish act is getting OLD.
I NEVER called him dumb, NEVER.
I even said, IF YOU READ, that ANYONE can misunderstand a doctors report and HE heard one thing but something else was said, I even said THAT I have misunderstood what’s been said to me by a doctor.
GO BACK AND READ WHAT I WROTE, AND READ IT AGAIN, THEN ASK SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO READ TO READ IT TO YOU!!!
You don’t know me, and if you did, you’d know the truth, but you are a little child that says the same thing over and over and over and over again.
Believe what you want, I KNOW the truth.
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
LOOK BUTCH, ALEX OBVIOUSLY HAS A POINT THAT YOU ARE CLEARLY MISSING, CLEARLY. WAIT A MINUTE, I’M NOT DONE. You are obviously a racist because you are implying that Spanish people, Dominicans especially, have an inability to read or understand engrish. That’s not cool man, and I’m really sorry for you and im going to let you finish, but why are you so racist for?
For goodness sake, that’s not what he said! He said that perhaps due to a language barrier Reyes may have gotten the wrong idea about his condition. This does not imply that Reyes is dumb or doesnt understand english. Hell, maybe he had a doctor who couldn’t phrase it properly. Doctor/patient communication is a HUGE issue and its drilled into us nearly every single day in medical school. Believe me, when I see patients its very hard to make sure that everyone is on the same page. There’s a lot of complex jargon involved and if the doctor doesnt put everything in the proper context it doesnt matter if you don’t speak a word of english or have a Ph.D in the subject. This is what Butch was trying to say, just not with the best wording.
Be Happpy!
U know what, I wanna apologize if I offended anyone wit my childish comments, I was out of line and I should’ve taken a different aproach, this is entertainment and I shouldn’t have taken those comments out of context, let’s talk baseball and hope for the best this year, let’s go mets!!!!!
Wow, this was some comment thread. It had everything you’d look for in a blockbuster movie; heroes, villians, action, suspense, racism, happy ending, lol What more could you ask for! I nominate this thread for best original screenplay.
What in the world happened here? I leave this place for one day and all hell breaks loose, lol.
I made the mistake last week of trying to have a civil, educated discussion with alex68. It’s pretty clear that he’s 12 years old, and judging by his over-the-top Mets bashing, it’s pretty clear he’s a Yankee fan enjoying the ulcers this team is giving ther true Mets fans.
X, as a charter Met fan, may I point out the obvious that aside from only 6G/season the Yankees are insignificant to the Mets. Perhaps it’s because I haven’t lived much in the metro area since ’76. I had no difficulty choosing sides this past WS. I truly emphasize with those who have to interact with those arrogant louts rooting for the Bronx Zooers as I’ve an older cousin whom I was reared up next to in Bklyn, who has long relished his role as a Contrarian, being the sole NYY fan in a 2-family Bklyn Dodger rooted structure. He alone is insufferable. his pinstriped tainted glasses do little to shield the snake like vertical slits of his Steinbrenerish eyes, as he refused to acknowledge the remedial needs of his favorites needing nearly 10 yrs to learn 28 followed 27 as it took a manager using his bacx as a FLASHCARD TO FINALLY BOOST THEM ONTO THE LEARNING CURVE!
Xtre
I’m not 12 and just like u I am a suffering but happy mets fan, if I was a yankee fan trust me I wouldn’t be here on this blog, I try to renain positive, but when u see post of a 150 million dollar team that includes nelson figueroa and alex cora then how u expect me or any fan to feel??
Again, this is a team with 2 superstars from the farm at 15 or 16 million combined between the 2, the rest of the money invested u wonder what the gm is doing!!
Think what u will is ur opinion, I respect anyone’s, but don’t call me a 12 year old or a yankee fan just becoz I don’t agree wit u and whatever crazy lunatic post u been writing..
Alex, Omar’s only in place 5Y & our farm hasn’t produced since mid-80s. Didn’t u pay attention to Phillips’ disregard for a viable pipeline? Duquette not there long enough to do anything; but stripmine it of Kazmir. Phillips’ was long on record as saying he felt it was impossible to predict your positional needs & twice as impossible to have the right one available when needed thus he chose to resolve those needs by drafting pitching in all forms & talent levels under the premise that everyone always looks to acquire pitching & a surplus would enable him to deal for the positional help he required.
Our franchise is further hamstrung by ownership’s refusal to offer arbitration to anyone(losing bonus picks) as well as their refusal to offer signing bonuses above slot to acquire better talent.
Wuithout quality position players in the farm system due to those ownership restrictions the Mets were further impacted during Duquettes’s dismantling of Phillip’s overpriced, underproducing, overaged vets:
ALOMAR
BENITEZ
BURNITZ
VENTURA
ZEILE
Because Jeff adamantly refused to offset any of those player’s salaries by INCL CASH IN DEALS as a way of raising thw quality of returned prospects. The actual return on those dealt vets in quality prospects was limited to just one, in the Alomar deal(Royce Ring) and only because in lieu of cash we agreed to also accept a cripled up prospect reliever with a bum wing (Almonte?) The fruits of Omar’s labors in Intl & Amateur draft markets are finally beginning to appear Since many of the drafted yongsters came from later than first round selections & without slot excess. The level of impact is moderate mostly with a couple pleasant of suprises like Davis & Murphy
The utter disaray of our farm system long predates Omar’s assencion to GM chair. The fact that at full strength our infield is totally manned by homegrowns excl 2B, belies much of your cause for angst.
1B MURPHY
2B CASTILLO
SS REYES
3B WRIGHT
I also didn’t mention the negative effect on our pitching prospect contributions Peterson’s banishments caused in Kazmir,Lindstrum, Bell, Bannister. Perterson was granted total pitching asset control by Jeff, a problem until Omar, I believe, got Fred to throw him in front of the same firing squad as Willie after Omar lost the retain Willie war with Jeff. I call it Omar’s pound of flesh, he lost his guy(Willie) & got one of Jeff’s thrown in also.
Well said, Mets. Alex probably didn’t comprehend most of it. Lets also not forget that the Mets have four of Baseball America’s top 100 prospects. And if my remedial math serves me, that’s above average.
On a separate note, I was never really enamored with Kazmir. Sure, he had talent and has even flashed it at times, but his career has been largely disappointing and injury-riddled and at the time, I praised Mets brass for having the foresight to unload him. What they got back for him is an entirely different story, but I like to think their hearts were in the right place.
Xtreemicon is my biggest fan..
By the way, don’t compare the yankees wit the mets, even though their payroll is 200 million is been proven to be well spent even if they make mistakes they always in the playoffs, and have won 5 world series since 1996, the mets have had the higest payroll in the nl since 2006 and have 1 playoffs appearence and 2 choke jobs, and the yankees can afford to have mendoza on the roster coz they got good hitters everywhere in the lineup, the mets only got 4 players who u know offensively are gonna be good, 1b, c, 2b, are still in quesstion if we can production out of those 3, and I won’t mention francour becoz I like him..
X, we disagree on Kazmir, i presume based upon divergent expectation levels. I presume u feel he’s a dissappointment as a perceived #1 A Santana or Sabathia. I on the other hand only perceived him as a potential MLB SP and as such his career 57-46 record for mostly celler dwelling teams was not only better than average; but outstanding compared to the return he brought(a recognized reclaimation project-10min fix)Actually as it turned out we likely would’ve been better off just giving him to TB for nothing in retn & converting Heilman to take those Zambrano starts. As Peterson had been granted autonomous control over all aspects of Franchise pitching, the acquisitions of both Zambrano & Benson(both injured) belong to him as does blame for who was sacrificed Kazmir,Wigginton+ Giving any coach that amount of control/power was certainly a huge mistake & certainly contributed to the crosspurposes that has become the representative direction of a Jeff Wilpon frontoffice.
The other money is invested in a top 5 starter, a top 5 outfielder and an elite slugger. It makes you look silly including the 5th starter and the 25th utility man on the roster to “prove” your point. The Yankees have a $200 million payroll and Ramiro Pena will make their roster. Geez, at least Cora can hit a little.