Comments on: Rejected! Smoltz Would Rather Play Golf Than Play For Mets

By: theonlymaskman

theonlymaskman — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:19:42 +0000

Bob L, Your quote from Omar “no one is better than our guys IF healthy” is especially telling. He already has the excuses lined up. Oh, they turned out not be healthy? How were we to know? It’s headed towards a season of lame excuses. A real GM does not go into the season with a rotation completely built on health questions. Accepting the risk of Santana returning from surgery is one thing. But banking on Maine, Perez, Nieve and Niese all restored to prime condition is ridiculous. You can bank that is not going to happen. The only question is how many will disappoint and how badly? Signing Fogg is only adding insult to injury. We also have a recovering Escobar to look forward to. Escobar may work out, but it is one more hospital case on our roster. Omar has set us up for a repeat of last year but not signing a bonafide pitcher.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:02:02 +0000

Heartily disagree, man. Why would Marquis ‘flop’ suddenly, turning 32 in August; why would Garland ‘flop’ suddenly turning 31 in September, when Marquis tagged 80 wins over past 6 years/13+ wins/yr on average, and Garland totaled 107 wins over past 8 years/13+ wins year on average + both logged beaucoup innings each year? Flop? Why, man?
Yeah, Sheets IS a risk and yeah the 10mm gtd is a high price for that risk, but his upside is a #1/#2 hurler. Pineiro i agree on, but please do not wash out the terrible planning of our ownership/front office this off season.
Our rotation is full of Q-marks. Prudent, pro-active, planning would’ve dictated adding quality/depth/stability to that rotation. No one is ‘better than our guys IF healthy’ (Omar’s favorite ‘apology’), except maybe Lackey? Fine, but few would argue that Marquis and/or Garland would not have added tangible depth and stability to the rotation, given the questions about a Maine/Pelfrey/Perez/Niese ALL rebounding to have effective seasons in 2010. C’mon. The front office blew it so far…and time is fast running out. Wang is the best left out there, even, yeah, including the ‘risks’. On the trade front, potentially, there’s Arroyo, Meche, Bannister. Fine, but we have to ‘give up’ to get those guys.
Omar/ownership has blown it so far. Don’t pretend that’s not the case.

By: golf

golf — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:26:47 +0000

I just have to really wonder how all those nay sayers will react when Sheets goes down, Marquis flops with DC, and all those washed up pitchers whom many Met fans think are saviors flop. There were never any decent pitchers out there other than maybe Garland and Piniero at 1 year contracts that could of helped this year so please stop with the woulda, shoulda signings. Lets just move on and see what spring training brings and hopefully Mets performance will shut up all the those negatrons out there.

By: sarge

sarge — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:27:53 +0000

I agree with you Mets Faithful. The media wants the big signing and fans allow media inc radio during these cold months to formulate their thoughts and arguments and don’t fact check just like all these rumors and buzz.
Can’t wati for pitchers and catchers to report.

By: Mets faithful

Mets faithful — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:51:32 +0000

Just like it was reported that Bay would rather play in Bayroot then for the Mets. Its just Mets haters making up BS.

By: sarge

sarge — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:41:28 +0000

No on Smoltz,he is too old.
I think that Carter will make an impression in spring training plus he will push Tatis, who had the propensity for DPs last year, whom I will take over Delgado. He, Delgado has no where left to go and play or show his ballet moves at 1b. Mets need to move on.
I just have to really wonder how all those nay sayers will react when Sheets goes down, Marquis flops with DC, and all those washed up pitchers whom many Met fans think are saviors flop. There were never any decent pitchers out there other than maybe Garland and Piniero at 1 year contracts that could of helped this year so please stop with the woulda, shoulda signings. Lets just move on and see what spring training brings and hopefully Mets performance will shut up all the those negatrons out there.
I agree with the dysfunctional front office but this is our front office, we can’t change it, we can complain but it won’t change any so all the recriminations against them will not change their holy attitude.
I just hope that tonight on SNY on Hot Stove, Kevin B. asks them why if they are building around speed, defense and pitching then what happened.

By: Phil Groh

Phil Groh — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:01:57 +0000

Lets Go Mets in 2011!!! Forget about 2010!

By: Pedro

Pedro — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:58:13 +0000

I agree with vegasChris. Chien-Ming Wang would be a nice flier to take. Even if he comes back in June or July, so what? Mets still have a ton of question marks. If Wang pitches well, extend him. He likes NYC and he’ll like the NL vs the AL I’m sure. Now, big IF, if the Mets then add one of the FA starters on next seasons menu like Webb, Beckett, Vazquez, Cliff Lee…coupled with Santana, Pelfry, Wang, Perez or Maine this could be interesting.

I agree with t agee too. Mets management is too loyal sometimes. I know Wagner wanted to go to a contender so Jeff and Omar wanted to accommodating him but in he meantime they shot themselves in the foot, AGAIN, and Boston ends up with, effectively, 2 first rd picks in the draft and the Mets end up with a career minor leaguer who can really hit but never gets a chance to crack a lineup.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:15:57 +0000

Minor league contract would be cool for me.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:13:49 +0000

THE COO HAS GOT TO GO. The long term health of this organization has constantly been sacrificed for short term band aids. Jeff Wilpon is not a baseball man. Anyone of us can look at stats, payroll, ect and try to fill different holes in the Major League Roster but when it comes to planning for being competative for next year, the following year and the year after that what has he done? He doesn’t like the draft because he’s not qualified to determine what prospects may pan out. After finally addressing AAA after last year’s abomination it was turned into a team of well known career minor leaguers plus some pitchers and Davis, Fern and perhaps Thole. Even knowing our “catchers” at AAA were Counsil and Cassanova we still traded Castro and dumped Schneider. We included Two decent prospects AND Endy for a relief pitcher with an elbow problem. I’ll guarantee you the Mariners GM knows more about our farm system then Jeff and Omar do. This year we’ll find out a lot more about some of our A+ and AA players that will really be the factor in our ability to compete going forward or collapse for 5 -7 years. Jeff has run this team into the ground and with what few QUALITY free agents will actually be hitting the free agent market, we will have to develop our own players, because they sure ain’t coming here.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:44:48 +0000

The few guys who will make it free agency next year will probably exhaust their other options before coming here. The season is long why play for a team that’s more likely out of contention and puts your long term health behind other things and then critizes you for taking matters into your own hands. No one is coming here as their first choice with a bufoon like Jeff as the COO.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:25:35 +0000

I agree too. Tatis is hardly the worst player to have on you team. He can play 1B 2B 3B LF and even played SS last year. With the age and injury status of our position players he makes sense. Also less and less are premium guys coming out as free agents. Next year looks like a bonanza but some will be dealt and signed before the end of the season. We’ll be shut out unless we give up our few decent players in the minors. Glad to see Epstein crowing about pick pocketing our two picks for Wagner. How penny wise and dollar stupid saving 3 mil by trading Wagner was and that decision had to have come from Jeff. Just simply beyond idiotic. What a Moron.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:12:43 +0000

I dont think Wang will be major league ready until May/June.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:12:06 +0000

Hey Nosh, I hadn’t noticed, lol.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:10:55 +0000

Not at all, Thome is a lefthanded hitter anyway, we have no need. I’m just pointing out the Mets propensity for overpaying their bench players.

By: Mike**

Mike** — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:27:25 +0000

You call not making offers to two pitchers that we needed to shore up our rotation NOTHING?!

You should be assistant GM with that talk. The bottom line is the Mets targeted these guys and did NOT pull them in. Results.

Whether or not newswriters and bloggers report about them is irrelevant. The Mets offseason has been atrocious and that’s a proven fact. If you think otherwise, you need to have your head examined.

By: Nosh

Nosh — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:24:31 +0000

I’m looking for hope. Can’t find any. The Billy Wagner thing was beyond dumb.

You know this has turned to venom for me. I actually HATE Jeff Wilpon.

By: aye

aye — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:23:10 +0000

Who rejected the mets? You take media bs as proof of facts. Yesterdat there was a report about how the mets NEVER made and offr to sheet or garland. Bengie spurned them. That’s it!! The mets never made an offer to Joel Pinero!!!! He’s puertorican and there was an interview with the puertorican newspaper where he said the angels were the only offer he had on the table. He said the mets talked to him but never made concrete offer!!! If the mets had thrown offers to all this people then you would have a valid argument. They didn’t!!! You all sound like gosspi columnists

By: Johnny

Johnny — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:06:15 +0000

The Mets are really running out of options here. Wang might be their best bet.

By: Tie Dyed

Tie Dyed — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:49:11 +0000

Stay tuned to WMETS. Where the hits keep comin’