Comments on: Minaya and Wilpon – Part Of The Problem, Not The Solution http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:16:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-40024 METS62FAN Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:32 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-40024 Mask, somehow u've convinced yourself that the Wilpons even knew there was a problem when they made their withdrawal. Clearly a circumstance "NOT IN EVIDENCE". I'd chalk it up alongside other Sterling pluses as deaf,dumb lucky timing! I can just see you in that position, voluteering to give away millions u'd thought was honestly earned just before the CRASH!" How many investors, who through normal course of business, withdrew money from the system the day bewfore FANNIE/FREDDIE COLLAPSE gave money away? While, I'm certainly no fan of present controlling interest in our team, I certainly don't believe they're responsible for every horrible occurance or are Villains in every transaction they endeavor to undertake. Mask, only rational thought should be entertained by u to maintain your sanity & not morphing into some overly salivating, frothing, wildeyed anime of a Met Fan. or as commonly accepted a Phillie fan(lol)Still love ya though!...'62 Mask, somehow u’ve convinced yourself that the Wilpons even knew there was a problem when they made their withdrawal. Clearly a circumstance “NOT IN EVIDENCE”. I’d chalk it up alongside other Sterling pluses as deaf,dumb lucky timing! I can just see you in that position, voluteering to give away millions u’d thought was honestly earned just before the CRASH!” How many investors, who through normal course of business, withdrew money from the system the day bewfore FANNIE/FREDDIE COLLAPSE gave money away? While, I’m certainly no fan of present controlling interest in our team, I certainly don’t believe they’re responsible for every horrible occurance or are Villains in every transaction they endeavor to undertake. Mask, only rational thought should be entertained by u to maintain your sanity & not morphing into some overly salivating, frothing, wildeyed anime of a Met Fan. or as commonly accepted a Phillie fan(lol)Still love ya though!…’62

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39952 theonlymaskman Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:35:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39952 Waste money on injury prone playres and there won't be any left to sign sound players. Waste money on injury prone playres and there won’t be any left to sign sound players.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39951 theonlymaskman Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:30:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39951 As far as trust goes, he gave plenty of that to Madoff, but withdrew before reckoning day and pocketed $48 mil to the good at the expense of others less fortunate. He will have to restore the $48 mil eventually as the Feds close in on the trail of ill-gotten gains and maybe that explains the penny pinching. As far as trust goes, he gave plenty of that to Madoff, but withdrew before reckoning day and pocketed $48 mil to the good at the expense of others less fortunate. He will have to restore the $48 mil eventually as the Feds close in on the trail of ill-gotten gains and maybe that explains the penny pinching.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39945 METS62FAN Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:14:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39945 Age, this clip from u... ‘62, Possible. It’s just hard to say. The Rubin thing to me was not a big deal. Omar was pissed that Bernazard’s ridiculous antics was made public causing Omar’s guy to make the Mets and Omar look bad and costing Omar a guy he liked and relyed on and giving Fred/Jeff a reason to get rid of one of his allies. The fact is Rubin’s job is to report on the Mets and it absolutely is a conflict of interest for him to be “flirting” with the GM of the team he is paid to cover about possibly working for him in the future. Is this relevent to why Rubin published this info? Absolutely. Is it the reason he did? Quite possibly but we’ll never know as it was also newsworthy on it’s own. Omar would have been smarter and more mature to have kept quiet but I cannot blame him it was an emotional reaction. I don’t think another GM would let Jeff into ANY baseball matters like Omar apparantly has. Therefore I believe that Jeff wants Omar around at least until, GOD forbid, he thinks he is ready to go it alone. GOD save us all. was unreplyable; but don't ever underestimate Jeff's EGO & think he doesn't already believe he's capable of going GMless, I recall ruminations to that end being cited for Duquette's interim tag as Jeff was trying to convince Daddy he didn't need training wheels or a guardian, then came the Kazmir fiasco. A disater for Met fans everywhere with an invisible SilverLining that kept Jeff under control of stronger willed more secure baseball auhority, Omar! Age, this clip from u…
‘62, Possible. It’s just hard to say. The Rubin thing to me was not a big deal. Omar was pissed that Bernazard’s ridiculous antics was made public causing Omar’s guy to make the Mets and Omar look bad and costing Omar a guy he liked and relyed on and giving Fred/Jeff a reason to get rid of one of his allies. The fact is Rubin’s job is to report on the Mets and it absolutely is a conflict of interest for him to be “flirting” with the GM of the team he is paid to cover about possibly working for him in the future. Is this relevent to why Rubin published this info? Absolutely. Is it the reason he did? Quite possibly but we’ll never know as it was also newsworthy on it’s own. Omar would have been smarter and more mature to have kept quiet but I cannot blame him it was an emotional reaction. I don’t think another GM would let Jeff into ANY baseball matters like Omar apparantly has. Therefore I believe that Jeff wants Omar around at least until, GOD forbid, he thinks he is ready to go it alone. GOD save us all.

was unreplyable; but don’t ever underestimate Jeff’s EGO & think he doesn’t already believe he’s capable of going GMless, I recall ruminations to that end being cited for Duquette’s interim tag as Jeff was trying to convince Daddy he didn’t need training wheels or a guardian, then came the Kazmir fiasco. A disater for Met fans everywhere with an invisible SilverLining that kept Jeff under control of stronger willed more secure baseball auhority, Omar!

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39943 METS62FAN Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:08:45 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39943 Sarge, I don't believe Fred will ever trust his money to anyone more than he has wqith Omar; however it's my belief, that peace at home trumped better judgement in allowing 'baby' Wilpon control in Flushing. Sarge, I don’t believe Fred will ever trust his money to anyone more than he has wqith Omar; however it’s my belief, that peace at home trumped better judgement in allowing ‘baby’ Wilpon control in Flushing.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39937 t agee Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:24:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39937 '62, Possible. It's just hard to say. The Rubin thing to me was not a big deal. Omar was pissed that Bernazard's ridiculous antics was made public causing Omar's guy to make the Mets and Omar look bad and costing Omar a guy he liked and relyed on and giving Fred/Jeff a reason to get rid of one of his allies. The fact is Rubin's job is to report on the Mets and it absolutely is a conflict of interest for him to be "flirting" with the GM of the team he is paid to cover about possibly working for him in the future. Is this relevent to why Rubin published this info? Absolutely. Is it the reason he did? Quite possibly but we'll never know as it was also newsworthy on it's own. Omar would have been smarter and more mature to have kept quiet but I cannot blame him it was an emotional reaction. I don't think another GM would let Jeff into ANY baseball matters like Omar apparantly has. Therefore I believe that Jeff wants Omar around at least until, GOD forbid, he thinks he is ready to go it alone. GOD save us all. ’62, Possible. It’s just hard to say. The Rubin thing to me was not a big deal. Omar was pissed that Bernazard’s ridiculous antics was made public causing Omar’s guy to make the Mets and Omar look bad and costing Omar a guy he liked and relyed on and giving Fred/Jeff a reason to get rid of one of his allies. The fact is Rubin’s job is to report on the Mets and it absolutely is a conflict of interest for him to be “flirting” with the GM of the team he is paid to cover about possibly working for him in the future. Is this relevent to why Rubin published this info? Absolutely. Is it the reason he did? Quite possibly but we’ll never know as it was also newsworthy on it’s own. Omar would have been smarter and more mature to have kept quiet but I cannot blame him it was an emotional reaction. I don’t think another GM would let Jeff into ANY baseball matters like Omar apparantly has. Therefore I believe that Jeff wants Omar around at least until, GOD forbid, he thinks he is ready to go it alone. GOD save us all.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39933 METS62FAN Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:32:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39933 Age, you'd be right if Jeff ever thought he was ever wrong or that he wasn't always right. We'll never know what other schemes Jeff planned that were derailed once Fred was informed by Omar creating a ton of Jeff resentment. It's clear to me that Jeff is deliberatly going out of his way to sabotauge Omar's image. It wouldn't shock me to learn many of these obviously negative concepts attributed to Omar from some nameless insider had Jeff's fingerprints to create disatisfaction even when the hairbrained idea is just floated, (Pedro, others). for all the heat Omar creates for himself, as in his poor handling of Bernazard dismissal, the press gives him nairly a break, many ask why attack Rubin? I see it not as an attack on Rubin; but a poorly executed explaination as to why a full investigation was held rather than just accepting Rubin;s account verbatum. In that light, doesn't it make more senzse? wasn't that one of the big questions between Rubin's article & Bernazard firing? How many times did an SNY talking head(Shein,Carlin,Tierney) all collecting Jeff signed paychecks, criticize the Minaya statement regarding holding their own investigation? Age, you’d be right if Jeff ever thought he was ever wrong or that he wasn’t always right. We’ll never know what other schemes Jeff planned that were derailed once Fred was informed by Omar creating a ton of Jeff resentment. It’s clear to me that Jeff is deliberatly going out of his way to sabotauge Omar’s image. It wouldn’t shock me to learn many of these obviously negative concepts attributed to Omar from some nameless insider had Jeff’s fingerprints to create disatisfaction even when the hairbrained idea is just floated, (Pedro, others). for all the heat Omar creates for himself, as in his poor handling of Bernazard dismissal, the press gives him nairly a break, many ask why attack Rubin? I see it not as an attack on Rubin; but a poorly executed explaination as to why a full investigation was held rather than just accepting Rubin;s account verbatum. In that light, doesn’t it make more senzse? wasn’t that one of the big questions between Rubin’s article & Bernazard firing? How many times did an SNY talking head(Shein,Carlin,Tierney) all collecting Jeff signed paychecks, criticize the Minaya statement regarding holding their own investigation?

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39883 t agee Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:06:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39883 You got it Sarge. You got it Sarge.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39882 t agee Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:02:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39882 '62, You and I are in agreement about Jeff's meddling but I think he wants to keep Omar because what other GM would work for a guy who really doesn't know baseball and yet has so much input into the team? I think Jeff keeps Omar so he can be the psuedo GM and Omar can take the heat. ’62, You and I are in agreement about Jeff’s meddling but I think he wants to keep Omar because what other GM would work for a guy who really doesn’t know baseball and yet has so much input into the team? I think Jeff keeps Omar so he can be the psuedo GM and Omar can take the heat.

]]> By: TommyJ http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39819 TommyJ Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:45:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39819 62FAN, I can't help but think that anyone in the know in MLB doesn't think that Jeffy and Freddy ARE inept. 62FAN, I can’t help but think that anyone in the know in MLB doesn’t think that Jeffy and Freddy ARE inept.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39772 METS62FAN Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:31:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39772 sTEVE, i THINK TANKING THE SEASON & GETTING A FUROR BUILT TO FIRE OMAR IS jEFF'S LAST RESORT TO GET WHAT HE'S WANTED SIBCE '07 "RID OF OMAR!" HE GOT SCREWED WHEN DADDY RENEWED OMAR FOR 3 YRS, NOW HE'S DESPERATE! sTEVE, i THINK TANKING THE SEASON & GETTING A FUROR BUILT TO FIRE OMAR IS jEFF’S LAST RESORT TO GET WHAT HE’S WANTED SIBCE ’07 “RID OF OMAR!” HE GOT SCREWED WHEN DADDY RENEWED OMAR FOR 3 YRS, NOW HE’S DESPERATE!

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39771 METS62FAN Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:20:30 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39771 Luis & Greg, Bobby V. is certainly the smartest baseballmind in the entire wotld, just ask him! he'd nebver be hired by NYM again, Davey Joinson is the only more unpopular topic around Wilpon's table. Besides, the primarey condition of employment in the NYM frontoffice is shielding the Wilpon Family name from being oouted as inept(namely Jeff)Bobby V. would be intolerable as an emplouee as well as as a boss to any decent fld mgr. He makes La Russa look like a shrinking violet. Just consider his biggest battle with Phillips between Payton & Agbayani. now which had the longer MLB career? Let's not forget he never once led a team to first place finish, W/C was his best attainment ever. EWven Mex laughs aloud at his theory for playing off 1B with runner on. Luis & Greg, Bobby V. is certainly the smartest baseballmind in the entire wotld, just ask him! he’d nebver be hired by NYM again, Davey Joinson is the only more unpopular topic around Wilpon’s table. Besides, the primarey condition of employment in the NYM frontoffice is shielding the Wilpon Family name from being oouted as inept(namely Jeff)Bobby V. would be intolerable as an emplouee as well as as a boss to any decent fld mgr. He makes La Russa look like a shrinking violet. Just consider his biggest battle with Phillips between Payton & Agbayani. now which had the longer MLB career? Let’s not forget he never once led a team to first place finish, W/C was his best attainment ever. EWven Mex laughs aloud at his theory for playing off 1B with runner on.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39770 METS62FAN Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:11:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39770 Greg, unfortunately the quicker riches available through NFL & NBA have decreased the number of African-Americans playing baseball. How many diamonds Vs. hoops courts are there in most inner-cities where the afro-American large populations reside? Baseball hasn't been the biggest sports draw for decades. faster riches available through the local gym in the boxing ring. Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan are certainly the biggest losses to MLB of those proven multisports gifted athletes. Greg, unfortunately the quicker riches available through NFL & NBA have decreased the number of African-Americans playing baseball. How many diamonds Vs. hoops courts are there in most inner-cities where the afro-American large populations reside? Baseball hasn’t been the biggest sports draw for decades. faster riches available through the local gym in the boxing ring. Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan are certainly the biggest losses to MLB of those proven multisports gifted athletes.

]]> By: Identity Issues « Faith and Fear in Flushing http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39745 Identity Issues « Faith and Fear in Flushing Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:22:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39745 [...] identity is frayed. No wonder the Metsosphere is continuously and maybe justifiably staticky, jittery and expressing discontent. We are, by nature, a gaggle of nervous crosstalkers when we don’t [...] [...] identity is frayed. No wonder the Metsosphere is continuously and maybe justifiably staticky, jittery and expressing discontent. We are, by nature, a gaggle of nervous crosstalkers when we don’t [...]

]]> By: Luis http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39689 Luis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:29:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39689 BOBBY VALENTINE FOR GENERAL MANAGER!! YESS!! It could NOT be worse than what we have had since Cashen BOBBY VALENTINE FOR GENERAL MANAGER!!

YESS!! It could NOT be worse than what we have had since Cashen

]]> By: DelUner http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39688 DelUner Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:11:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39688 You are wrong...........look at the demographics through MLB......... You are wrong………..look at the demographics through MLB………

]]> By: Greg From brooklyn http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39681 Greg From brooklyn Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:34:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39681 There is obviousLY something going on with management. Miniya went from full autonomy to castration within 2 years... And I'm not concerned about the lack of wasting untold millions at this years sup-par free-agents. But something is going. And from that Beltran press conference...I now hope Ricco DOESN"T take over as GM. He has more strings on him than Miniya does. BOBBY VALENTINE FOR GENERAL MANAGER...or maybe he to would rather go to Beruit or whereever that Gammons guy falsly said Bay wanted to go. There is obviousLY something going on with management.
Miniya went from full autonomy to castration within 2 years…
And I’m not concerned about the lack of wasting untold millions at this years sup-par free-agents. But something is going.

And from that Beltran press conference…I now hope Ricco DOESN”T take over as GM. He has more strings on him than Miniya does.

BOBBY VALENTINE FOR GENERAL MANAGER…or maybe he to would rather go to Beruit or whereever that Gammons guy falsly said Bay wanted to go.

]]> By: Tim http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39653 Tim Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:24:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39653 sure, that would make it even then HAHA sure, that would make it even then HAHA

]]> By: Steve from Norfolk http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39648 Steve from Norfolk Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:02:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39648 Does anyone wonder if management knows something about one or more of our injured players they're not talking about? Why waste money on players if you know the season's already in the tank? Maybe Reyes' hammy isn't healed up to par and he's lost some of his speed, or Beltran's going to be out past the All-Star break. There's got to be some reason for all this inaction - management can't think we're all this stupid??? Does anyone wonder if management knows something about one or more of our injured players they’re not talking about? Why waste money on players if you know the season’s already in the tank? Maybe Reyes’ hammy isn’t healed up to par and he’s lost some of his speed, or Beltran’s going to be out past the All-Star break. There’s got to be some reason for all this inaction – management can’t think we’re all this stupid???

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/01/minaya-and-wilpon-part-of-the-problem-not-the-solution.html#comment-39620 METS62FAN Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:09:26 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=19845#comment-39620 Coop, if a gunman pulls the trigger & murders someone while wearing a hand puppet who are u prosecuting? the gunman or the puppet? The obvious answer in this case is Jeff. who is attempting to force his father into firing THE BABYSITTER:, 0MAR! by tanking the season to raise the FIRE OMAR! fan demands. This is right out of the Wilpon family playbook of disregarding the fans & the team's welfare to accomplish a personal goal. Much as Fred attempted to devalue the franchise before offering to buy it by refusing Phillips' from returning Fl calls offering to deal Piazza until the press reported on it & Nelson stepped in with his overwelming Senior Partner clout! WHILE FRED WILL NEVER EMBARASS HIS FAMILY NAME BY FIRING HIS SON, WE, THE FANS, NEED TO "SET OMAR FREE" BY GETTING FRED TO ADJUST THE FRONTOFFICE ORGANIZATION CHART CHANGING THE GM POSITION FROM REPORTING TO COO Jeff to TEAM PRESIDENT & PARTNER, SOL KATZ! No hoopla, no scandal, no disgrace, no public announcement, just an internal decision altering the reporting structure. While the decent free agents are off the board, there's still a possibility of dealing for what we need. Jeff shouldn't be allowed to scuttle that opportunity. Coop, if a gunman pulls the trigger & murders someone while wearing a hand puppet who are u prosecuting? the gunman or the puppet? The obvious answer in this case is Jeff. who is attempting to force his father into firing THE BABYSITTER:, 0MAR! by tanking the season to raise the FIRE OMAR! fan demands. This is right out of the Wilpon family playbook of disregarding the fans & the team’s welfare to accomplish a personal goal. Much as Fred attempted to devalue the franchise before offering to buy it by refusing Phillips’ from returning Fl calls offering to deal Piazza until the press reported on it & Nelson stepped in with his overwelming Senior Partner clout!
WHILE FRED WILL NEVER EMBARASS HIS FAMILY NAME BY FIRING HIS SON, WE, THE FANS, NEED TO “SET OMAR FREE” BY GETTING FRED TO ADJUST THE FRONTOFFICE ORGANIZATION CHART CHANGING THE GM POSITION FROM REPORTING TO COO Jeff to TEAM PRESIDENT & PARTNER, SOL KATZ! No hoopla, no scandal, no disgrace, no public announcement, just an internal decision altering the reporting structure. While the decent free agents are off the board, there’s still a possibility of dealing for what we need. Jeff shouldn’t be allowed to scuttle that opportunity.

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