Comments on: Jeff Wilpon Fails To Deliver On His Promises

By: Anthony

Anthony — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:18:28 +0000

realgm.com-Nats and Orlando Hudson close to deal, damn it

By: Barbella

Barbella — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:41:59 +0000

Check out great podcast from Seven Train to Shea about Mets Ownership Woes: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/seventraintoshea/2010/02/01/mets-ownership-issues

Nelson Doubleday, who dodged the limelight, said of the Wilpon’s meddling would unravel Mets into a minor league team. Please sell the Mets! Please sell the Mets!

I don’t have a lifetime to give to wait for you to die; and we can’t win with you running the team into the ground. Please sell, so Mets fans can Live again!

By: Barbella

Barbella — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:31:05 +0000

Please Fire Wilpon. He’s killing us! Let the Baseball people be baseball people. You’re not a General Manager and you’re not a Skipper. You’re a pampered control freek, spoild brat.

You cost Mets Kazmir for two time Tommy John (Victor) Zambrano. You accepted Mo Vaughn’s bone-on-bone, cheese burger eating fat ass, but sent Vladimir Guerrero’s bad back packing. Now, you’re telling Francoeur to play with bad thumb with no playoffs in sight, only to cost him a ligament from his arm.

You suck!!!

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:16:10 +0000

Mess, obviously u don’t want to see improvment & prefer to only see the top empty portion of the glass: In the 48 yrs this franchise has existed it’s finished in the bottom half of the League 29 times & in the top three 7 times resulting in 3 postseason berths(2 postseasons(’99,’00) were from 4TH place overall finishes)
During “Omar’s tenure of 5 yrs we’ve finished first for the first time since ’88. with the other finishes still better than franchise average:
yr pl record
04 12 71-91
05 5 83-79
06 1 97-65
07 5 88-74
08 4 89-73
09 13 70-92
those were the finishes within the entire league & as we all know within division the placement was considerably better incl one first & two sends in 5 yrs. The only better period in franchise history was the 5 yrs:
84 3 90-72
85 2 98-64
86 1 108-54
87 2 92-70
88 1 100-60
Somehow it certainkly sounds like you believe Omar should’ve quit as GM because he didn’t like the “CONDITIONS of EMPLOYMENT”. As a fan, what would u expect to improve if Omar quit? Would restraints/rules placed by ownership be relaxed dealing with a GM they wre unfamiliar with? Would Fred actually fire the problematic COO, son & partner, Jeff?
If you prefer to root for a team that only wins, I suggest u look elsewhere.
This is a franchise that’s been flawed from the very beginning when they prioritized initially drafting former NY related players over talented, younger prospects. in 47 yrs there have been 4 owners with none having “win at all costs” as a mantra. We all know where that philosophy reigns supreme.
4 owners? Joan Payson to Charlie Payson, 1975
Charlie Payson to, Nelson Doubleday/Fred Wilpon, 1980
Nelson Doubleday/Fred Wilpon to Sterling Equities, 2002

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:24:35 +0000

Nosh, as I keep bringing up whenever a naive fan makes the obvious ownership change solution recommendation, WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF IMPROVING ON THE COMPETITIVE/SPENDING NATURE OF OWNERSHIP WHEN BUD “PARITY” SELIG & HIS COMMITTEE OF SM MKT COMPETITORS MUST FIRST APPROVE ANY & ALL PERSPECTIVE NEW OWNERS?

I believe the correct answer is NIHL!

I too once dreamt of a consortium led by Metfan Donald Trump until I ascertained the futility after seeing Mark Cuban’s foiled attempts at acquiring the Cubs from the Tribune Co. There is absolutly no way Selig will allow his dream of parity aka ‘parody’ do be disrupted by allowing another “Damned the Torpedoes” Owner amongst the likes of NYY & Bosox.

By: nosh

nosh — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:54:30 +0000

Agree. Until we get new ownership I don’t see this turning around. Jeff is, excuse my language, a f#cking idiot when it comes to running a baseball team.

By: ny mess

ny mess — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:21:45 +0000

This is the reply I posted in the Metsforum.. I’ll repeat here because it is so relevant..
Thanks for the analysis… 100% concur…

Here is my take..

Jeff Wilpon – Way over his head in running Billion dollar corporation.. He has a job security as if his father owns the company.. (wait… his father do own the company)… Worst of all he LIES and is Deceitful…He would rather ruin somebody’s season in exchange for more season tickets…

So bottom line is.. We don’t care how Mets finish this season… as long as we make money!!!!!!

REason why Omar is GM – 1) he keeps his mouth shut…. and do as his boss tells him to do… in other words, he has no balls….

2) He takes all the blame for all the things going wrong… (How many times does he say… “it was my decision, and my decision only…” – right Omar.. and Moon is made of Cheese)

3) Omar made lot of money for Wilpon last 4 years… With near 3M attendance every year… it doesn’t matter if Mets made playoff or not.. bottom line, Wilpon made boatload of money… The big reason why he got 3 year contract extension…

4) Contract extension – Wilpon hates admitting mistake and eating a contract… (see Castillo as prime example) – nuff said..

5) Most of the baseball decision was not made by Omar, but by Wilpon… – how can you fire someone if you are the biggest problem with Mets…

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:18:04 +0000

Mask have u always been so naive? Your candidates stand as much chance at being approved by Selig & his ownership Committee as Mark Cuban had of being approved to buy the Cubs. Selig’s mission in life is competitive balance, do u reaLLY THINK HE’D APPROVE ANYONE THAT SMELLED LIKE THEY’D SPEND MORE MONEY?

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:13:56 +0000

Mask, I’ve been trying to tell you for months that Omar has been doing as good a job as anyone considering the handicap he must work under(Jeff) at least Omar has always had the Old Man’s confidence that Phillips never did. from what I remember at the time, Fred resisted Phillips’ wanting to make Omar available for Expos job(phillips wanted his in-house replacement gone!); but was pressured by Selig desperatly wanting a minority candidate. Another consideration, I don’t ever remember any d/l issues with the Expos as exists here. I’m guessing the discrepancy issue with frontoffice pushing players to keep playing & rehabing under trainers is unique to Mets. Wouldn’t u say?

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:56:25 +0000

Harold, I never stop being anmazed at the rediculous number of Met fans who use the Twins as an example of developing a Pipeline, yet never, ever consider the fruitlessness of it if you aren’t going to compensate them propeerly & trade them away rather than pay to keep them.

By: theonlymaskman

theonlymaskman — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:19:52 +0000

You are right. Time and again they show they are weasels. Nothing they say can be believed. John Ricco has shown he is cut from the same cloth. Firing Omar is no fix if Ricco is to be the replacement. It’s possible that Omar is actually better than Ricco after what Ricco has demonstrated in his press conference.

By: theonlymaskman

theonlymaskman — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:15:26 +0000

But 62, the team has potential to be good. It’s the ownership and mgmt that is dreadful. The way to recovery is through new ownership. I’ll take a partnership of The Donald and Jerry Seinfeld. The Donald will clean house and throw out the clowns and eternal Mets fan Jerry will keep a happy face on for the followers. Together they will bring in professional BB mgmt to run the day to day operations once the clowns are cleared out.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:54:08 +0000

Jdon, I’m certainly more likely to be part od a Wilpon firing squad than fan cklub; but I believe some of your assertions regatrding Omar’s'cronies’ qwualifications is inaccurate & bogus. Every nesly hitred executive is likely to fill available opennings with people he trusts based upon pastr experiences aka “cronies” Hell, even Bernazard was a former player & an employee of the Player’s Union also experuienced from Selig’s HQ, I believe. His past relationship with Omar is less clear than others; but reports at the time Willie was fired indicated Bernazard had been corrupted into becoming Jeff’s man promised Omar’s when vascancy arose. Jdon,I’m personally convinced that Jeff Wilpon is the most inept top Met executive since M.Donald Grant & certainly as destructive if not more so. While Omar certainly may have entered into some arguably inadvisable contracts, Jeff’s errors have been much more insidiuous. & destructive/devisive!

By: jdon

jdon — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:04:31 +0000

Just opening up the wallet, though, does not qualify as running an organization. Turning your operations over to a nitwit who can only do one thing at a time and hires his cronies instead of trained profesionals does not qualify as running an organization. That is the problem with the Wontpons. That, and their dishonesty and their meddling ways.

By: Harold Scott

Harold Scott — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:13:51 +0000

I think the status of his injury was kept private as to not adversely effect ticket sales for the 2010 season. I love the Mets but I don’t love how they are run. They don’t have a great minor league development system. The Twins do a much better job of developing their players while teaching them the fundamentals consistently thoughout every level of their organization. The Mets tend to hold on to players too long (i.e. Milledge, Delgado) where they should trade them when they have the most value and can retool their farm system with prospects. They should also evaluate their conditioning and training programs and should consider having someone like Mackie Shilstone consult. He was very helpful to Reyes and countless others over the years when the Mets had someone try to teach Reyes how to run differently (totally obsurd). Also, I think they should being a sports psychologist on board to help toughen their mental psyche and develop a winning attitude. Guys like Pelfrey and Oliver Perez would benefit. Delgado has used one. I could go on. However, my heart does bleed Met blue and orange and I don’t want to crap on the organization too much. But we can do much better!!

By: nosh

nosh — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:06:38 +0000

Joe D-
Theres the opinion I was looking for. Nice write up brother. The last 2 sentences sum up my feelings on this organization. The last 3 years have just been one train wreck after another. When wil it stop? Who knows. Perhaps when and if the owners ever decide to sell.

By: THE WARRIOR

THE WARRIOR — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:19:14 +0000

Quite honestly I’m sure a lot of the “bashing” stems from the anger & frustration that we METS fans have faced over the last few years. Additionally, those who aren’t METS fans seem 2 4get that we did go thru many injuries in ’07 & ’08. W/ that said, 1 of my problems w/ the WIlpons is that althought they do sometimes spend money (M. Piazza, J. Santana, J. Bay), they sometimes seem 2 miss out on great opportunities that only a few more dollars can lock up 4 them (O. Hudson, J. Lackey, J. Marquis). I’m sure my memory is 4getting some others. Look, I’m not an owner so I could only imagine some of the issues that the Wilpons face that none of are aware of, the “behind the scenes” things. SO I do give them that. But many of 2days owners need 2 read blogs such as this 1 & @ times listen 2 the fans.

By: SpinalRemains

SpinalRemains — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:11:58 +0000

While I can understand the Wilpon bashing from you guys; we musn’t forget that as an owner in the purest sense, the Wilpons do an above average job when it comes to opening up the wallet.
We should be thankful that we don’t have an owner who’s buying yachts and summer homes with all the team’s revenue. The Wilpons may be pretty shabby when it comes to day to day operations but they do deserve the respect of Mets fans when they’re paying for players like Beltran, Johan, Bay, any other free agent. K Rod got 36 mil for a closer. While it was a good deal, no other owner would have done that? Lots of smaller market teams have plenty of cheddar to spread around but the fact of the matter is that they don’t. Their fans suffer because they lose all their home grown guys even, come free agency. It could be a lot worse fellas. At least we can contend with high profile players.

By: shea73

shea73 — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:25:14 +0000

What’s sad is that it wasn’t meant as positive for the rightfully despised Grant.

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:50:00 +0000

First positive words about that jackass in over 30 years doesn’t bode well for us.