Dec
21
2009
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Pedro Martinez Back To The Mets? It’s Possible…

According to ESPN’s Jayson Stark, the Mets have considered making an attempt to bring Pedro Martinez back to Flushing. Martinez is said to be looking for a deal similar to the deal Brad Penny got from from the Cardinals, a one year 7.5 million dollar deal.

Pedro has said his first choice before signing with the Phillies last year, was to sign with the Mets. So we know Pedro would be open to a return. Martinez is also better than most of the free agent options still open to the Mets.

Pedro said he wants to pitch a full season, but I am not so sure his body will hold up for a full season. Its a risk especially at 7.5 million, but after watching John Lackey, Randy Wolf, and Jason Marquis sign, I think it is a chance the Mets should take. Of all the other risky pitchers out there, like Ben Sheets, Chien-Ming Wang, and Eric Bedard, I think Pedro may have the best chance of making over 25 starts.

If the Mets do opt to sign Martinez, I think they need to seriously consider also adding a consistent innings eater type starter like Jon Garland or Doug Davis.

Another thought, is the heat this would potentially add to the Mets rivalry with the Phillies. This would only serve to make the rivalry better.

Martinez was 5-1 with a 3.63 ERA in 9 starts for the Phillies in 2009.

He was 32-23 in 79 starts in four seasons for the Mets from 2006-2008.

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  • honestly, wouldnt mind having Pedro back at all

  • Pedro is a great competitor, but i doubt he holds up for a full season #1; and #2, he’ll kill the bullpen fading in the 5th inning more often than not. i would rather sign Garland and Davis, or Garland and take a shot on Sheets or Bedard for the same kind of money, we’ll wind up giving Pedro. Or sign Garland and trade for Arroyo and/or Meche, instead of Garland. But Omar can’t seem to sign a major F/A let alone make 2 major trades.

    • Bob, any consideration of Pedro by the Mets hierarchy would certainly surpass the brainlessness of considering Sheets. Personally, I’d prefer Nieve to either one. Outside of hype-factor, Pedro’s first stint, unforttyunatly was an unqualified disaster. if he’d been capable of being Pedro in any one of the 4 yrs we paid for we’d certainly have had much better results. to my recollection he has yet to pitch in one meaningful late season game for NYM. FOOL ME ONCE… What’s next, talk PiaZZA OUT OF RETIREMENT?

  • Let’s bring Pedro back for the 5th starter slot. He’s fun, he’s a leader and he can still pitch. He can’t be any worse than Perez or Doug Davis or even Garland. Let’s also get Arroyo and Sheets in here and dump Ollie and trade Pelfrey or Maine in a deal for an outfielder. Then we have Johan, Arroyo, Maine/Pelfrey, Sheets, Pedro with Niese waiting in the wings.

  • He’s healthy now and if he can add 25 plus starts behind Santana I would be all for it. Then like it was said you have to go sign Garland/Bedard or Davis.

    Santana
    Martinez
    Garland
    Maine
    Pelfrey

    That doesn’t look half bad to me I could live with that. Lat me know what you guys think.

    • That Rotation would look good for the phillies or the yankees since they have great run scoring offenses.

      Santana #1
      Martinez #4
      Garland # 4-5
      Maine # 3-4
      Pelfrey # 4-5

      also that leaves us with only one lefty in the rotation. If it were me i’d try to trade for a #2 or #3 at least

    • Where Ollie go?

  • Who would we trade for though ? Screw Ollie if it were me I would release him, put him in the pen or just trade him for like a single A player just to get rid of him

    • But it’s not you and the Mets are paying him $12mil per. So cheapskates that they are, he’s here and will be part of the staff as much as we hate the thought. So you can write all the rotations you want, but without the spoiled crazy brat in there, it’s all just fantasy.

  • At day’s end, comparing Pedro and his longevity with what is out there (still!) on the market, i would trade for Arroyo, sign Garland, take a flyer on Bedard, have Niese in the wings. Maybe Ollie has a great Spring and can either vie for a starting slot or be in the pen. So, the rotation would be: Santana, Arroyo, Garland, Pelfrey, and Maine/Ollie/Niese for the 5th slot. Perhaps, the loser(s) have trade value and bring in an OF. i’m resigned to having Castillo come back, but we get an OF either through F/A (Gomes/Cust) or trade (Hart from the Brewers, or Rivera from the Angels). i doubt we’ll get Bay. Forget Holliday.
    Pedro would be an expensive mistake. IF he lasted the year, he’d kill the bullpen.
    i’ve traded my rose-colored glasses in for a basic black-lens version, where i can’t quite make out whether the glass is half full or half empty.

  • Seriously, who says Pedro is healthy>? 25 starts? In how many years? Is everyone at the funny mushrooms? pedro would not last two months in a rotation! 7.5 million. If the mets sign Pedro they might as well withdraw from the NL and open up a clown school. Pedro makes a couple of starts last year and suddenly he is healthy, good to go for a season. Like John Maine is healthy? Anybody notice Maine is missing about 5 mph on his fastball? The Phillies gave Pedro a million bucks last year and he was barely worth that.

    • thank you

    • What is puzzling about this is, they pass on Marquis without an offer, but they are interested in Pedro?

      • I guess we just have to get used to the fact that it is the Mets we’re talking about. Do they even know who the available FA’s are? Apparently they have no one on their radar screens.

        • Mask, my best guess is there concentrating on the MUST HAVE’S as they value them, Bay & Molina. I’m only guessing; but I’d think they figure the 11 sp they still have of the 12 used last yr can carry the load of 162 & worry about a postseason series if/when it happens. More & more it’a appearing as if Gammons was right “Lil” Jeffie’s in charge & by his own statemenmts from ’04, he considers the callins to WFAN AS HIS “TOP ADVISORS”. They didn’t value Marquis’ 10 straight Postseason appearances despite pitching in hitter friendlies like Wrigley,Coors & Fulton County, so he wasn’t either.

      • Ace, don’t panic, wasn’t it these same crack ESPN disney characters that swore Omar was in heat to sign Sammy Sosa & I-ROD? My guess, is it’s not based upon anything other than their desperate conjecture surrounding What are the Mets up to? Passed on Lackey,Marquis? Must be it’s Pedro! Remember they also had us interested in Pedro all last yr up to his signing with Phl.
        I, myself, haven’t a clue what Omar’s up to other than Bay & Molina; but in my opinion it better be superior to Piniero,Davis or Garland like Meche or his ilk to justify passing up Marquis @ 7.5m per. I’m willing to wait to see what transpires before openning day before screaming FOUL! I suggest everyone else do the same.

  • Why can’t we just pay a little more for Sheets? Martinez makes no sense.

    • Sheets is a higher injury risk then Pedro.

      • They both are. Sheets is younger and better.

        • I don’t know maybe

  • The Phillies were smart-they brought him in in August. That is the only way to use that guy. He stole 50 million from the Wilpons already. I actually hope they do sign him. Then maybe Bud Selig will insist that both father and son Wilpon submit themselves for psychiatric exams.Maybe he can declare them to be unfit owners at a Board of Governors meeting or something.

  • I agree and I also would trade for Arroyo as well then I would sign Garland and make Maine and Pelfrey my 4th and 5th starters. I would add one or two arms to the pen and I would forget about Holliday and Bay and sign Cust. As for Ollie I’m not sure what I would do about him but I would try and include him in a trade for Arroyo. I would forget about Molina I would sign Barajas or Torrealba. Oh and if nothing gets done I would fire Omar if I were the Wilpons, I would of fired him a year or 2 ago.

  • Two years would be about right. I would not have fired him after the first choke. Sheets is a risk I would take. He is surgically repaired, young and strong, and he will probably win til he drops—if he drops. If we get 2/3 of a season from Sheets, we will get more than we get from 3 years of Ollie, at less than 1/4 of the price.

    • Yeah me neither. I would to but Martinez is also surgically repaired and strong to as he proved with the Philly so you can make the argument on who you would rather have but your right he would probably be cheaper and if he stays healthy watch out with him and Santana at the top of the rotation. I think we should forget about Bay and go after Cust. In the last 3 seasons he has hit 26,33,25 home runs with 82,77,70 rbi’s plus he hit about 20 doubles in each of those 3 seasons. He played in Oakland Alameda Coliseum which is a pitcher friendly park just like Citi Field so I think he would do just fine. Let me know what you guys think.

      • I think the Mets do not even know that a player named Jack Cust even exists.

        • Mask, Please don’t tell them, I beg u

  • First of all guys, the news came from jayson stark who’s a phillie cu-nt, we shouldn’t believe anything this man says regarding the mets, he knows this would take mets fans into deranged mode. Second of all, if omar is really considering this, he should be fired in the spot!!!

  • With Pedro, a fun guy and a fan favorite, the market has come back to the Mets. He’ll bring some fans into the seats and he won’t cost a lot.

    One year at $7.5 million bucks is fodder for newspaper interest. He’ll sign for $2 or $3 million plus a lot of incentives.

  • Ya why not. Lets bring back To Glavine too.

  • Honestly….break this Mets team up! Fire Minaya for sleeping at the wheel. Fire Jerry. Hire a new GM, Manager, Coaches…..AND LETS REBUILD! Trade everyone! We have no shot at competing with everyone in our division getting better including the Nationals. This organization is a joke. Our window to win has officially closed. There is not enough talent available on the Free Agent side of things to improve this team enough. And our system doesn’t have enough talent to make a trade to acquire someone that will have a major impact and fill our needs. Jason Bay is toying with us. He doesn’t want to come to this circus.

    I love how they extended my ticket package renewal to 12/31. Fred/Jeff….you can keep your tickets, your seats and your stadium. I am protesting until you get someone with brains to run this franchise. And for the Mets fans that will praise the possible return of a washed up Pedro Martinez….aren’t you tired of being fooled by this organization? Do you really think Pedro will help us win a World Series? Seriously? Can you please stop accepting the 2nd class washed up talent as answers for our team. Wake up! Join the protest and lets NOT SHOW UP AT CITI FIELD until we have real signs that someone with brains is at the wheel.

  • Petey…bench coach for sure!

  • I would love to have Pedro back, but honestly I can’t see him wanting to come back to the organziation that refused to give him a second chance. The Phillies believed in humans even put him on the WS team. Why wouldn’t the Phillies want him back?

  • Serious! Who says that Pedro wants to come back to Met? His intermediary leaker? Please I would not believe this cause first, he is asking for serious money, second who in the real world believes that Pedro would make 25 starts or even last more than 5 innings? He is part of the reason the last few years that the BP was used up cause he would not last more than 5 innings.
    If he wants to sign an incentive, performance based contract for say, $3 million then maybe but he has to show that he can last a whole season, not just 5 weeks with Phillies his year.
    If he really wants to come back to Mets next year he would of done the incentive laden contract for all the money he took without pitching in 06-08. But he would not do that for the team that gave him millions for no production so I don’t believe he wants to come back to NY, its all about the money, always is.
    Move on and sign an innings eater like Garland or Piniero please.

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TeamWLPct.GB
Nationals2618.591 -
Braves2620.5651.0
Mets2421.5332.5
Marlins2421.5332.5
Phillies2323.5004.0

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