10
2009
Mets Make Offer To JASON BAY (Confirmed)
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Earlier this afternoon, Mike Francesa of WFAN reported that the Mets have made offers to free agents Bengie Molina and Jason Bay.
This has now been confirmed by David Lennon of Newsday, as well as Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
According to Francesa, the Mets made the decision to target Jason Bay instead of Matt Holliday, because they believe Bay’s swing and hitting style will translate better at Citi Field based on the results of a study and research.
I don’t pretend to be an expert, but if the Mets have taken the time to research this so that they can make a better personnel decision, than I applaud them for it. I’m sure the detractors will come out screaming, but they aren’t the ones footing the bill.
Signing Jason Bay to a 4-year deal would be a significant improvement in leftfield and in the middle of a punch-less lineup.
Let Scott Boras peddle his 7-8 year Matt Holliday proposal to some other poor soul…
Last season, Bay batted .267 with 36 homeruns and 119 RBI with the Red Sox. He also drew 94 walks which led to a .384 on-base percentage, and his .921 OPS would have led the Mets by a huge margin.
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|---|---|---|---|---|
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| Marlins | 24 | 21 | .533 | 2.5 |
| Phillies | 23 | 23 | .500 | 4.0 |
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This is awesome news and what Ive been waiting to hear. I hope something gets done fast.
What makes anyone think Bay even wants to come to the Mets? Maybe we should temper our excitement because from what I hear Bay isnt a NY guy.
TERRIBLE DECISION!!!! Bay will be a bust! We need Holliday not Bay. Just the Mets short changing the fans again as always. Bay is a terrible fielder and this will haunt us.
And Holliday is a gold glover? To me, both of these guys are interchangable. The only glarring difference…BORAS.
Agreed, holliday and bay both have their issues defensively, but offensively you have 2 go with bay, his swing and the fact that hes a pull hitter bodes well for him at citi field, holliday has played well in small ball parks (col, stl) oak he was terrible and it seemed 2 me that oak cudnt wait 2 get rid of him because he wasnt the answer for them offensively that they thought he would be.
also bay has played in a big market (bos) and plays extremly clutch, and he fit in the yankee-redsox rivalry as if he was there from the beginning, because he dominated the yanks, so i think he would fit in juss fine wit our philly-mets rivalry beautifully.
I’ll concede that chasing down deep flys is not Bay’s forte, however…
Holliday is not a gold glover, but he’s infinitely better than Bay who is a LIABILITY!!!
can u please explain 2 me what makes bay a liability??
ur talking as if we are puttin daniel murphy baq out there in LF, bay will suffice in citfield, i can live with giving up a bit of defense for the offense he will bring to the team that we really really need.
everyone was screaming for manny not 2 long ago, because of what he brought offensively, no one really looked at the fact that HE IS A HORRENDOUS FIELDER.
bay can supply that offense for us as well hell defenitly play better defense then manny and holliday, anyone recall hollidays lil blunder this yr that cost the cardnials the NLDS, yea it was like watching murphy for the mets on that play. that series should have continued but didnt because of that play, i dont recall a play all season in which bay cost the sox a gm cuz of his defense, if he did please enlighten me thnx
I know things like “statistics” and “facts” are not openly welcome around here, but UZR has Bay as one of the worst defensive outfielder in baseball over the last three years and Holliday as the second best left fielder behind Crawford defensively.
Holliday is a mid-western player obviously, by showing that he (like everyone else) can hit good in the mountains, and can get an adrenaline rush playing for a new team. But when he went down to the coast he was quite awful.
WRONG – Bay is a much better choice – he’s a better pull hitter which will bode better for this field. I saw Holliday at Citifield this year when the Cards were in town (the game KROD gave up the grannie to Pujols) – he made Murphy look like an all star left fielder in comparison. He was AWFUL
If its Bay and Lackey I’m totally fine with Bay
Well if they researched this then great. I had preferd Holliday but im no expert and i say whats best 4 our team do it then. Also Bay maybe a bit cheaper i think maybe we can go and get Hudson with the extra $$$ and eat some of castillo’s $ and trade him away 4 a minor league infielder in return preferably a ss or 2b we need that also
Nah, not terrible as a fielder. Now Murphy, see, Murphy is a terrible fielder. Bay hits well, and he hits with prodigious power. If he accepts, we do come away from winter meetings with an improved NY Mets.
He’s no savior, but he’s decent, and he will help us win games.
To be honest also i think the Mets want Holliday knowing the Redsox prefer Bay so it puts pressure on Boras see because now the Redsox have 2 get agressive with Bay and that leaves Holliday out of all of this for now with no bigdogs to spend on him except for maybe Anaheim who i heard preferes Bay also because he’s done it well in the AL.Thats how im looking at this then also that brings down Hollidays price once the Sox sign Bay relax people relax
Bay was bad three years ago with the Pirates…so this could be a bust. But if the Mets get Molina, and Lackey plus Bay and keep the Prospects, how can we complain
listen bay was the best player on the pirates come on man, if i played for the pirates id play like crap 2 lol, look wat happened he got put on a good team, playoff contender, and he was put right into the fire with the yankee-redsox rivalry and he flourished. so i think he will be fine for us if we sign him.
Bay? A terrible fielder? No, I don’t think so. If we have to wait for Holliday, we will be like the Mets of old. Isn’t that what the fans have been crying about? Bay hits for power, is an more than adequate fielder, and his OBP is very, very nice plus the kid is young. WORKS FOR ME! We get to focus on other important moves and Holliday’s price will certainly drop some….hey you never know. Bay plays right field, you know! When you move quickly, good things can happen for you….
I say go for it.
From how things look, Lackey is still on the radar but I’d be shocked if the Mets get him AND Pineiro so that tells me it’s Lackey first and then Pineiro in that order. Marquis is on the staff almost definitely either way. We should walk away with a decent rotation 1 through 5. Like I’ve said from the start, I’m down to trade Maine and Ollie as fast as possible before the bombs explode! JOHAN, LACKEY/PINEIRO, BIG PELF, MARQUIS, and whomever they plug in the 3 or 5 spot….
The Mets will not go for that four year deal with Pineiro.
I hope you’re wrong on that, D.C. Honestly, the options out there (at least, the obvious ones) are not very good. Halladay is doing his dance with Toronto. I don’t like Maine or Ollie at all and want ‘em gone if it were up to me. Wolf’s already off the market. Pineiro is somebody that can be controlled for a few years or so. I see no signs that they’re getting Chapman. I guess we gotta wait and see like everybody else, huh? lol
The “go for it” attitude is what we need to get the Mets back into contention….That laid-back approach has killed us time and time again from personnel decisions to bats sitting on shoulders in crucial game time situations! Time for the entire Mets organization to collectively swing for the fences!!!
Bay can hit 25-30 home runs. I don’t care who the Mets sign for LF. As long as that player hits right handed and can hit 25-30 home runs…
4yrs $65 mil is what im hearing as the offer for bay.
bay turned down 4ys $60 mil from bos, so lets see where this goes.
If you don’t think Randy is worth 3/30 how can you justify Pineiro at 4/40? You have to go after Lackey.
Lackey has just become the number 1 priority for the Seattle Mariners. This could be a BIG problem. They’re guaranteed to overpay. A bidding war is not good for us!
It’s not our money. Who cares what the Mets end up paying. Yu are you paying a portion of a contract?
The Mets HAVE to sign Lackey and a 25-30 home run bat for LF or it’s at best 3rd place.
No, sir, I’m not paying a portion of the contract. Brilliant deduction! All I was saying since I have been a lifelong Mets fan too and I know how they have shown a history of operating in these situation, I thought fit to share an observation. But despite that, I agree that they have (HAVE) to get Lackey and someone like Bay or Holliday works for us in LF. See, now all better! lol
Always liked Bay. Note to Mets management. SIGN HIM and lets move on to pitching.
All else being equal, I doubt Bay would choose the Mets over a similar offer from another team. Let’s hope that nobody else makes an offer, then.
what makes u say that?? im interested in your logic, because his swing and power sits very well with citi field
I think you may e right Mike. I know Bay had a home built recently in the upper north west somewhere in Orgeon I think.
I liave in Boston and I know that Bay enjoyed his time here and seems to be ready to put down roots if he does sign with the Red Sox. The Mets offer is only slightly higher than the Sox offer so all things being equal I think Bay signs with the Sox beofre the Mets. The Marines just signed Figgins but… they may be willing to overpay on Bay in an effort to make a big push in 2010,
Lets hope not! I think the Angles are a long shot however… if they do have lots of money to spend. So here is My predictions with odds: Hhahahaaaaa…..
Bay signs with:
Marines 3:1
Red Sox 5:1
Mets 10:1
Angels: 10:1
be that as it may boston made that 60 mil offer in july and bay rejected it immediatly, and yet the redsox still have made no real effort 2 exceed the 60 mil mark, yes the mets offer is slightly higher but it is a formal offer that is higher then bostons, so its a good start, also if the mets commit the 5th yr to bay i think he signs with us (im not sayin they automatically will commit the 5th yr), cuz its on record that bos does not want 2 exceed the 4 yr mark. so it really is up 2 the mets on whether or not they get bay, commit the 5th yr and i think that all but seals the deal, or stand pat at 4yrs and exceed the dollar amount.
either way im glad the mets are not juss standing pat with their hands on their laps. they made offers 2 both bay and molina, and if we can sign them that allows us 2 go after other pieces that we need.
PITCHING!
That is the key for real….I’m VERY nervous about Maine. Every fan pretty much wants the Ollie deal to have never happened. Can’t trust Niese, Nieve, and the “others” to come up to the next level of performance and poise. What else can be done but to bring in fresh meat (3 or 4 pitchers for the rotation/long setup guy)? PITCHING, PITCHING, PITCHING…
Right, inning eatin, complete game throwin, rubber arm havin pitchers. We have a decent bullpen now, no sense in them all having shoulder fatigue by mid June.
well our bullpen is ok, but remember we lost our setup guy in putz there is a big hole there, and idk if bobby parnell can fill the roll in the 8th as we saw in 2009, he was solid in the 7th though. the bullpen isnt our biggest issue but the 8th inn is kind of an issue regardless. so maybe they can get someone on the cheap later on after we get the big pieces taken care of.
Did anyone see that Mike Jacobs was dropped…How about Jacobs and Murphy platooning at first???
i kno im going 2 sound nuts and prob get alot of flack for this but we are complaining about lacking power at 1st, i say if delgado is healthy and can prove he can stay that way then i say sign him for 1 yr and hope he has a great yr. worst case scenario he sux it up and we can juss throw d murph back out there, but with delgado in the lineup everyday it improves our bench having murphy there.
i say this can be a solid lineup for the mets in 2010
1.reyes
2.hudson*
3.bay*
4.delgado*
5.beltran
6.wright
7.francouer
8.molina*
9.pitcher
yes i kno we dont have these players yet but i have full confidence that we can aquire them, only thing is if they cant trade castillo he goes in the 2 hole instead of hudson, and we can all hope he has another season like he did in 2009.
as far as pitching goes thats up in the air i have no idea who they are targeting.
That lineup is pretty much what I would hope for. We got some “ifs” in the 2,3,4, and 8th spot. I changed my tune on Delgado a bit due to the limited options it appears. If he can play, that’s power in the lineup. Works for me. If we can’t lose Castillo for a song, he can still work that #2 spot we hope. I would rather make a move for him and continue the overhaul. Pitching, if you believe the reports, is all over the place! Lackey, Pineiro, Marquis, Kelvim Escobar, Aroldis Chapman were some of the names mentioned but who knows, right?
yea ive heard the list of names but i havent heard anything solid, like im hearing with the whole molina/bay offers. i like both pinero and marquis but the wolf deal kinda threw everything out of wack, frikkin brewers lol. im not giving either pinero or marquis anything more then 2yrs, the money unsure it all depends on what the final numbers look like for molina and bay
If we were to give Delgado a 1 year incentive deal, and we do end up with Bay and Molina, offensively we would be set. Even if we do end up saddled with Castillo. Id put up our offense against any other team in the NL.
Iam sure their offer is inadequate. They just want to be able to say that they went after a prime FA.
TO jdon: It’s damn if we do, and damn if we don’t
If the mets can get Lackey with Bay, it would be great hell u bring Delgado back, u have a hell of a lineup.
For pete sake folks the Mets have not done anything other than play with our emotions.Making an offer to Jason Bay is one thing and actually signing him to a multi-year contract is another.Be real Mets fans. The only sure thing that we going for 2010 is that Angel Pagan will play left-field for Jerry Manuel. Now thats fact not myth.Mets fans stop draming and wake up than you will Bay play left field for the Seattle Mariners. Wait and see. Oh well there is always Xavir Nady and his operatd shoulder patrolling the out field for us next year.
wow we have a psychic among us….bay 2 Sea really because last i heard Sea was mostly concerned wit signing lackey…anyway mr psychic juss so u kno since omars tenure as mets GM he has reeled in at least 1 big name each offseason lets recap:
2005- beltran, wagner
2006- delgado, loduca
2007- johan
2008- krod and putz
2009-???
now after that y wudnt we believe that omar wudnt get something done this offseason. exactly….. its called faith u shud get some because regardless on how bad my team is i stick by them, im def not a bandwagon fan that jumps 2 da bronx once things go wrong.
I hear they upped the Red Sox offer by a total of 5 mil, or 1.25 mil per. I do not think he even considers it. This isn’t The Price is Right. They need to be more definite. They are too reactive. Always nibbling.
I agree. With the Red Sox he has the chance to play for a guaranteed pennant contender not a big maybe. He gets to play in Fenway with its shortened LF to patrol on defense and the Green Monster nearby for plenty of extra base hits while batting. Boston seems to give him plenty of opportunity for success as compared to plenty of opportunity for failure at Citi. It will take more incentive than this to coax him to our side. It will be interesting to see how this develops with Omar in charge. An offer means nothing whereas a signing is huge. Omar needs to walk the walk on this one.