Comments on: Better Value: Schneider 2 Years For $3 Million or $9.8 Million? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million Sat, 26 May 2012 01:03:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33498 METS62FAN Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:30:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33498 JOE, INTERSTING; BUT U NEGLECTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE MONEY SAVED BY NYM IN ACQUIRING DELGADO VIA TRADE THAN IF HE'D SIGNED AS A F/A WITH THEM. REMEMBER, BOTH FL & NY OFFERRED IDENTICAL 'NET' REMUNERATION TO DELGADO; ONLY NYM WERE KICKING IN PAYMENT OF NYS & NYC INCOME TAXES TO NULLIFY IT'S NEGATIVE EFFECT. IN THE END WE ASSUMED FL'S DEAL SANS TAX PMTS. A TREMENDOUS NET SAVINGS OVER HAVING WON IN '05 BIDDING. FL DOES NOT HAVE STATE OR LOCAL INCOME TAX, NEITHER DOES TX(BELTRAN COMPETITION W/HOUSTON) U ALSO NEGLECT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FORMER FIRSTROUNDER WAS AN ABJECT FAILURE NOW TOILING IN PITTSBURGH. WHY NOT DISCUSS DEALING AWAY HEILMAN? OR ESCOBAR? FAILURES Vs EXPECTATIONS ALL & GOOD RIDDANCE! JOE, INTERSTING; BUT U NEGLECTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE MONEY SAVED BY NYM IN ACQUIRING DELGADO VIA TRADE THAN IF HE’D SIGNED AS A F/A WITH THEM. REMEMBER, BOTH FL & NY OFFERRED IDENTICAL ‘NET’ REMUNERATION TO DELGADO; ONLY NYM WERE KICKING IN PAYMENT OF NYS & NYC INCOME TAXES TO NULLIFY IT’S NEGATIVE EFFECT. IN THE END WE ASSUMED FL’S DEAL SANS TAX PMTS. A TREMENDOUS NET SAVINGS OVER HAVING WON IN ’05 BIDDING. FL DOES NOT HAVE STATE OR LOCAL INCOME TAX, NEITHER DOES TX(BELTRAN COMPETITION W/HOUSTON)
U ALSO NEGLECT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FORMER FIRSTROUNDER WAS AN ABJECT FAILURE NOW TOILING IN PITTSBURGH. WHY NOT DISCUSS DEALING AWAY HEILMAN? OR ESCOBAR? FAILURES Vs EXPECTATIONS ALL & GOOD RIDDANCE!

]]> By: JohnF http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33475 JohnF Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:10:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33475 Your numbers for Delgado are wrong: # 4 years/$52M (2005-08), plus 2009 club option * signed by Florida as a free agent 1/27/05 * 05:$4M, 06:$13.5M, 07:$14.5M, 08:$16M, 09:$16M vesting option or $12M club option ($4M buyout) # acquired 11/05 in trade from Florida (as part of deal, Marlins paid Mets $7M - $1M in 2006, $2M in 2007, $4M in 2008). The Mets paid him 12.5M, 12.5M, 12M and 12M Your numbers for Delgado are wrong:

# 4 years/$52M (2005-08), plus 2009 club option

* signed by Florida as a free agent 1/27/05
* 05:$4M, 06:$13.5M, 07:$14.5M, 08:$16M, 09:$16M vesting option or $12M club option ($4M buyout)

# acquired 11/05 in trade from Florida (as part of deal, Marlins paid Mets $7M – $1M in 2006, $2M in 2007, $4M in 2008).

The Mets paid him 12.5M, 12.5M, 12M and 12M

]]> By: Why the Mets Payroll Doesn’t Matter : Mets Today http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33474 Why the Mets Payroll Doesn’t Matter : Mets Today Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:27:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33474 [...] D at MetsMerizedOnline succinctly explains why the Mets’ payroll is so bloated, and how they can learn about value from the Nats, Marlins, and [...] [...] D at MetsMerizedOnline succinctly explains why the Mets’ payroll is so bloated, and how they can learn about value from the Nats, Marlins, and [...]

]]> By: fredisright http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33458 fredisright Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:49:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33458 I feel that you are not taking into consideration of the money value in its time and place. Some how the fans as a general rule seem to want to brand the owners. But they are like most people, they are doing what at that moment makes sense, and most of the time it usually does not for them and for also for most of the rest of the world. Because if it did then we would all be rich. Hmm, how come FW is rich. Wow. I feel that you are not taking into consideration of the money value in its time and place.

Some how the fans as a general rule seem to want to brand the owners.

But they are like most people, they are doing what at that moment makes sense, and most of the time it usually does not for them and for also for most of the rest of the world.

Because if it did then we would all be rich.

Hmm, how come FW is rich. Wow.

]]> By: Nester http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33447 Nester Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:36:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33447 Not a question of bad signing, the question is whther he's a value. Two busted thumbs that required surgery and he got paid more than Vizquel, and the agent said Mets were only team interested? You get the picture? Not a question of bad signing, the question is whther he’s a value.

Two busted thumbs that required surgery and he got paid more than Vizquel, and the agent said Mets were only team interested?

You get the picture?

]]> By: Mike B. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33445 Mike B. Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:06:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33445 The average MLB salary is $3 million. I don't think this is a bad signing. He can play short or second in case Reyes isn't the same or Castillo falls off. He's gritty and he played through pain. He's a pro's pro and a good influence on the younger players. It's not that bad a signing. The average MLB salary is $3 million. I don’t think this is a bad signing. He can play short or second in case Reyes isn’t the same or Castillo falls off. He’s gritty and he played through pain. He’s a pro’s pro and a good influence on the younger players. It’s not that bad a signing.

]]> By: Colonel_Kurtz http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33443 Colonel_Kurtz Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:55:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33443 The thing is so many reports are coming out that the Wilpons ARE involved with these contracts. Omar has lost control and now our owner is also somehow a GM. It isn't "Fire Omar", it should be "Sell the Team". I am sorry but if the owner is acting like a GM, I can't fault Omar for failing to do anything right this winter. If you didn't want Omar to have full control, should had fired him or moved him. But this "GM by Committee" garbage thing is just going to make matters even worse. The thing is so many reports are coming out that the Wilpons ARE involved with these contracts. Omar has lost control and now our owner is also somehow a GM. It isn’t “Fire Omar”, it should be “Sell the Team”.

I am sorry but if the owner is acting like a GM, I can’t fault Omar for failing to do anything right this winter. If you didn’t want Omar to have full control, should had fired him or moved him. But this “GM by Committee” garbage thing is just going to make matters even worse.

]]> By: William H. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33442 William H. Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:53:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33442 Excellent observations, and point well made. It's no surprise why Omar isnt calling the shots anymore. Excellent observations, and point well made. It’s no surprise why Omar isnt calling the shots anymore.

]]> By: Jennifer http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/12/better-value-schneider-2-years-for-3-million-or-9-8-million.html#comment-33441 Jennifer Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:42:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16667#comment-33441 If I was certain that the Wilpon family would read it, I would print this post and mail it to them under the heading "Fire Omar!". I really love your site by the way. If I was certain that the Wilpon family would read it, I would print this post and mail it to them under the heading “Fire Omar!”. I really love your site by the way.

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