23
2009
Bay May Be Heading Back To Boston After All
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According to a report by Rob Bradford of WEEI Radio in Boston, the Red Sox may be throwing their hat back into the ring regarding Jason Bay.
According to a team source, the Red Sox have had internal discussions about extending their organizational budget to potentially allow for another offer for free agent outfielder Jason Bay. The discussed proposal to Bay would be in the vicinity four-year, $60 million originally offered the outfielder by the Red Sox.
On Monday, one report surfaced that the agent for Jason Bay, Joe Urbon, allegedly went back to the Red Sox and pleaded with them to get back to the negotiating table, even though they had already traded for Mike Cameron.
This afternoon, John Harper of the Daily News wrote that everything is quiet where Bay is concerned, and that neither side has been in contact for several days.
What does all of this mean, and where is it all heading?
I couldn’t really tell you, but one thing is certain… If the Mets are serious about wanting to add Jason Bay to the middle of their lineup, they better stop beating around the bush and make their ultimate move before they are left empty handed again.
The public relations hit out of potentially losing out on Jason Bay could be the final blow with disgruntled fans who are still undecided about renewing their ticket plans.
At this point, I don’t even think it’s even a matter of wanting Jason Bay or not, the Mets must get something done mostly because they have to save face, and not swallow what little pride they still have left as an organization under the Minaya era.
I have to believe that there is going to be a lot of squirming in the Mets front office in the next 24 hours.
About the Author: Joe DeCaro
Went to my first Mets game, a Mayors Trophy game at Shea, in '73. We beat the Yankees 8-4 and I was hooked. I marched in two Banner Day parades, and before the Grand Slam single, there was the "Hendu Can Do" grand slam - I was there. I've collected Mets memorabilia all my life and started Mets Merized Online to feed my addiction.
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Get him now, They are really pushing my buttons, hat are they doing???
Wow, he rather takes less $ to go back to boston rather than play wit us, I’m glad coz that means the fo will be forced to sign holliday (who in my opinion is better), or else mets fans will not show up if pagan is the starting lf on opening day..
Alex, holliday Vs Bay is a debate that can rage for hours; but the potential difference in effect of 100M+ Vs. 70Mish is a slam dunk, “NO!” on the 100M. dealing with Urban Vs Boras, is another NO BRAINER!
I don’t see Holliday performing well in NYC or CITI. I ask everyone to just look at Holiday’d defensive numbers in similarly dimensioned Coors & his offensive numbers out of Oakland. batting behind a slugger the caliber of Phat Albert has it’s definite +. If they’vew chosen to pitch around Albert they must face you with Albert on, there’s also the relaxation phenomenon, if they pitch to Pujols successfully, the pitcher is just about exhaling when u step to the dish. Without that factor in Oak, he was mediocre at best. our lineup is looking to be very similar to Oakland’s regarding a commanding power hitter. Holliday is certainly good, perhaps better than Bay; but the difference is more like Wright & Francoeur. Overall David’s superior because he uses ALL fields Frenchie’s more pull tendancied. We all saw the shocking difference last yr, certainly HOJO can tweak as needed to increase pull on both Wrigfht & Holliday; but just the fact that Holliday needs tweaking that Bay doesn’t should tilt in favor of Bay. NYM better jump right to 5/80 & forget this cuteness. For those wishing for Omar’s departure, look at the difference between this offseason & past ones Omar orchestrated. This is what a WILPON CONDUCTED OFFSEASON WILL LOOK LIKE, JUST AS IT HAD PRE-OMAR. Back will be the days when we’re the underdog in any freeagent bidding contest. Don’t know about u; but I think it’s UGLY! His replcement will be a Smarter, more knowledgable baseball man. Jim Duquette came from a long line og intelligent Baseball men & look what Jeffie made HIM do!
well that is what the mets get for acting like they were only team in the bay race, jerks
Good riddance, we don’t want you either!
Shamik, fine, if Delgado can’t go, were u that entralled with last year’s lineup? ZERO POWER! Get used to it! FYI Pagan is a #4 outfielder on a competitive roster. A ‘nice, little player’ I fear the castration of Omar has destroyed all of the promise this team has built. ’09 may be the new average accomplishment year. if Delgado’s a NO-SHOW there isn’t a cleanup hitter on the roster. 2010 is looking weak, 2011, too many rookies(Thole,Davis,F-Mart) we’ll battle FL & DC in standings. We only have ourselves to blame as our fans are IDIOTS that don’t think & they act like lemings. Jeff Wilpon will be in total control without Omar to combat him in front of Fred. Jeff stated in 2004 that he listens regularly & intently to actual Met fans for advice through WFAN callers so when the callers saw we were in second place in July,’04 with pretty mediocre pitching, they railed for the Mets to acquire pitching no matter what, at all cost, to make a run @ Phl, then in 1st place. Thus Jeffie listened & ordered Duquette to get more pitching no matter what! RESULT: ZAMBRANO & BENSON! COST: Kazmir, Wigginton,+! Thanks FANS! Unfortunatly, Jeff is a non-sportsman! Forget about New ownership being better! No way Ownership committee allows that! Doesn’t anyone ever stop to think why before Omar our Big signings were the likes of “past their primes” Ziele, Ventura, Vaughn and not “in their primes Beltran, Santana, K-Rod. So what if we had to put up with an occasional Castillo or Ollie. Too often if the GM doesn’t ink everyone we think he should, hew’s a bum to too many.
Unfortunatrly it’s starting to look like the Omar years will be referred to as the “Good Ole Days”!
SCORCARD:
PLAYERS ADDDED DIRECTLY BY JEFF:
Victor Zambrano
Kris Benson
Kazuo Matsui
PLAYERS ADDED BY OMAR:
Pedro Martinez
Carlos Beltran
Carlos Delgado
John Maine
Endy Chavez
Duanner Sanchez
Xavier Nady
Moises Alou (twice)
Johan Santana
Oliver Perez (twice)
Billy Wagner
Luis Castillo (twice)
Xavier Nady
Angel Pagan
K-Rod
Putz
Is everybody happy?
Mask?, Ace?, Sarge?
Not the news I wanted to hear but where will Boston play him? The have Drew,Ellsbury,Cameron in the outfield and they have Ortiz as DH.
I heard that signing Bay was the prelude to an Adrian Gonzalez trade involving Ellsbury and Buckholtz.
This makes sense, because Cameron would play CF.
I really, really, really, really think the Mets need Bay and this would be horrific for them.
As I was reading the comments from Boston fans, I came across this one.
Red Sox sign Bay, then trade Ells Bucholz Tazawa Westmoreland and one minor prospect to Padres for A-Gon. How could we not see this coming? the Red Sox knew all along that there offense was going to bring them down despite there great pitching. Imagine the lineup and the pitching staff if both these moves happen:
Lineup:
1. Marco Scutaro
2. Dustin Pedroia
3. Victor Martinez
4. Adrian Gonzalez
5. Jason Bay
6. Kevin Youkilis
7. David Ortiz
8. Mike Cameron
9. J.D. Drew
Starting Rotation:
1. Jon Lester
2. Josh Beckett
3. John Lackey
4. Dice-K Mastuzaka
5. Tim Wakefield (maybe we add a bargain pitcher as well to cover injuries)
Yeah, I like our chances against the yanks next year, don’t you think?
You have got to be kidding me? Wow, this would be another slap in the face. To wait all this time and not do any other moves because of Bay and then not sign him would be like the last effin straw.
Omar can go to hell now.
Sorry but Mets are not obligated to negotiate against rumors and wanting to make a big splash. As I read earlier today what will determine the Mets future in 2010 is the return of Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Johan and K-Rod and the possible emergence of a healthier Maine.
Signing Bay just to make a splash is just the reason not to sign Bay.
If he does not want to play in NY then say so and then Mets can move on but I don’t think that Boston will sign him and this is a ploy by his agent to get him more money. Sorry but I am with Omar on this one cause Mets also need some other pieces for depth and pitching and just getting Bay is not the answer to next season’s success.
Come on Joe are you now just interested in making a splash or helping the team without hamstringing the future budget? I believe that fans will renew or buy tickets mainly based on economics and to a lesser degree how the team plays. You will always have front runners that want to be with the popular team but serious fans will come if economics allow.
We don’t need a big splash to compete next year even though it would be nice but it is not the end of the road. I do feel that Mets need to give Bay and his agent a drop dead date and move one cause he needs us more than we need him, IMO.
Sarge:
I agree 100% wit u, but needless to say, mets fan are desperate to some signing of any kind to improve our team, I already say that having reyes, santana & beltran back will improve our team dramastically, adding bay/holliday will do wonders.
Getting Bay or not getting Bay is unimportant to me, since I believe it will not affect our place in the standings. What is significant is if he signs with the Sox, we have once again been left holding our you-know-what. How many times do the Wontpons have tobe reminded of their managerial incompetence, and when do theses remnders sink in. If not getting Bay shoos Omar out the door, great. Of course, then what do we do about Jerry? No matter. He will be fired this year at some point.
Sarge -
Agree with your post. I would prefer Holliday to Bay, as I am concerned that Bay’s bat speed will slow 2 years into his contract. He struck out 162 times last year, so there’s a basis to be concerned.
We won’t rise or fall with the signing of Jason Bay. We need a healthy squad and the infusion of young, talented and hungry ballplayers. Inasmuch as I respect Omar’s eye for talent, we need a GM with sound organization skills that knows how to build rosters from the farm system up.
So you’re saying that Bay is just a Mets attempt to appease fans? Because from my pulpit this team was not good enough with the roster they used in ’08 when everyone was healthy, or have you forgotten the issues fans discussed before the injuries became the excuse? In fact, we had a Left Field problem last year and Jason Bay fits that need. It’s not a budget busting contract, it just seems that the Mets refuse to work on acquiring different players at once, using the money as a crutch, this after pledging to do all it took to make the team stronger. Make a splash? No I want them to fill a position that’s necessary; A power hitting left fielder!
The “big splash” will be when Molina jumps into the team pool in spring training…
well as is, with Murphy at 1b and Pagan in LF and the rotation and bullpen as is, this team is not a wild card team, team would be lucky to win 80 games.
I truly believe that he doesn’t want to play for the Mets. If he did, don’t you think he would have signed already. I say screw him and go after Holliday…….
yeah, the mets make an offer bay, red sox offer same offer or a littltte less, bay goes back to sox, mets make offer for holliday, cards offer a little less but it’s close and holliday goes back to cards. Just go get guerrero for 1-2 yrs at half the price of these 2 jerks please.
I never thought Bay was what this team needed. But the problem is that the mets have put all other plans on hold while they waited him out. I would have much more respect for Omar if he put his best offer on the table right now and told bay’s people he had one day to accept it. Uf he doesn’t then pull it and move on. I’d rather give a 1 year deal to Dye anyway and re evaluate next year.
Time to be realistic. This is the year that Mets fans get coal in their Christmas stockings. There will be no signings other than meaningless RA Dickey type stuff. Omar is unable to get anything done. It is not a surprise.
Mask,
if we can get Dickey to pitch against the Mets, he’ll probably be pretty good!
I’m sick and tired of hearing the “Screw him let’s sign Holliday” chants here and everywhere else. The Mets are NOT going to sign Holliday at that price. Do you honestly think they’re going to give him what Boras wants?
Bay is the only legitimate power threat in LF that the Mets are willing to extend an offer to. If it isn’t Bay, it’s going to be broken parts. Come to terms with that.
Everyone thinks that if Bay signs with Boston or someone else (which he probably will), that we’ll be all in on Holliday. It would be a very nice surprise, but I doubt it. If we lose Bay, hello Pagan in LF.
The Wilpons have done it again. Great jobs guys.
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This will get our hopes up a bit guys, the Red Sox will not have enough for Bay to re-sign. So Omar please call them rather than them calling back. Do it now.
I think adding Bay will be a tremendous help to our team. However, signing Bay will not get us what we all want for this team, a WS cahmpionship. Signing one player, as good as he may be, is simply not enough. This idea of only being able to work one deal at a time is ridiculous! While Omar waits on Bay both top notch pitchers sign somewhere else. I also find it amazing that so many fans rationalize not signing any real players to fill glaring holes in our roster by saying, “we didn’t need him”…or “the contract is too much”…or “2011 will be a better FA crop”…whatever. Fact of the matter is we have a good “core” of players, coming off injuries. But, we don’t have a GREAT “core” of players. As someone posted previously, we could not get to the WS will them when they were healthy. In today’s MLB, to be champions you need a GREAT core of players, that can step it up in the clutch when a do or die game is on the line. The only two ways to get such a core of players is to have superb scouting, and PAY terrific players alot of money. until the Coupons adopt a similiar mind set, we are destined to watch the WS on TV while other teams play for the championship.
I agree with you Ace, the Mets need a catcher and two starting pitchers. I hope they can get Pedro back as a fifth starter and a #2 like a Garland, Sheets or possibly Pineiro.
Also a Ryan Garko or bring back Mike Jacobs in a minor league deal.
But the thing is, u have to have bay in LF, Delgado and Molina at C, otherwise it does not work. If u bring in Bay and u have Murphy at 1b and Thole at C, it solves nothing.
Latest story from Post is that Bay will probably end up settling w/ us. Apparently, he’s a bit of an Olerud-type in that he is from Pacific NW and would like to be w/ Seattle.
Santa may be good to us yet.
Merry Christmas to All!
Thanks to russell Zanca, here is what the Post is writing:
A major league source told The Post yesterday that there are no other serious bidders for the free-agent outfielder.
That knowledge has allowed general manager Omar Minaya to stand firm in his four-year, $65 million offer for Bay
If there was a lesson the Mets learned last winter, it’s not to bid against themselves. Oliver Perez is Exhibit A. Despite the fact the flaky lefty had no other serious suitors, the Mets gave Perez $36 million over three years, a move they began to regret a few weeks into spring training and will have to live with through 2011.
The Giants and Angels are among the other teams to which Bay has been linked, but the Mets remain in the best position to secure the 31-year-old outfielder
Ny daily news-Bay “lukewarm” on playing for mets, is pushing to go back to red sox….geeez….can we just pass on this guy please
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holidays ! (Did i cover everyone?!) i agree about Bay. It’s time to cut the guy loose; rescind the offer, and move on. Shore up the pitching first, which at this point, means the trade route. The best pieces out there via trade and accessible seems to be via the Reds and a good old fashioned salary dump, in which we get Arroyo, Cordero, and Phillips for Pelfrey, Castillo (+$$$’s), Martinez; and via the Royals, trading Pagan for Meche, or trading Pagan to the Padres for Correia.
Then, i think Marlon Byrd makes the most sense for LF, along with some depth via the likes of Reed Johnson.
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