21
2009
Jason Bay Asks Red Sox To Reconsider Him
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The last thing I wanted to do this morning was bore you with another post on Jason Bay, however some of these strange twists that seem to surface each day make this ongoing soap opera to difficult to ignore.
When we last saw our hero (Jason Bay), his agent Joe Urbon had said that they would be making some sort of an announcement in the next 48 hours. That was late Friday morning, and as of this writing on Monday, nary a peep. But, that doesn’t mean our dynamic duo weren’t bust doing other things…
“Baby come back, any kind of fool could see.
There was something in everything about you.
Baby come back, you can blame it all on me.
I was wrong, and I just can’t live without you.”
According to Bill Madden of the Daily News, Urbon and Bay both turned back to the Boston Red Sox and pleaded with them to re-visit negotiations even though they already signed free agent Mike Cameron last week. This of course comes after they flat out rejected the Red Sox offer which was not that dissimilar from the current Mets offer.
In fact, two weeks ago before the Red Sox signed Cameron, Urbon made comments that sounded like Bay would definitely not be re-signing with the Red Sox.
“It’s pretty simple. We reject the Red Sox’ latest offer for a number of reasons but primarily the valuation of the offer isn’t where we think it should be, nor is it where other clubs have valued Jason in this marketplace,’’ Urbon said. “That’s just led Jason to be more interested in the other opportunities at this point, rather than with the Red Sox.’’
It looks like Urbon may have priced Jason Bay out of a good situation in Boston, and now with no other obvious bidders in sight besides the Mets, they are stuck between a rock (the Mets) and a hard place (also the Mets).
So why the reluctance to say yes to the Mets offer?
1. Citi Field – Bay is caught up in the perception that the park is a death valley to right handed sluggers, and he’s not the only hitter that feels that way.
2. Competitiveness – After tasting the post season with the Red Sox, Bay wants to play for a contender and he simply doesn’t view the Mets as anything more than a third place team.
3. Karma – You can put everything else including the medical staff, Tony Bernazard, Omar Minaya press conferences, and the two collapses into this category.
So why are the Mets still hanging around and letting this situation put a drag on the rest of the things they need to accomplish this off season?
It’s very simple actually, these are the New York Mets. Any other team would have told Bay and his consigliere to get lost a long time ago, but if the Mets feel they can save a buck or two, they have no problem swallowing what little pride they have left as well as any other dung that gets thrown at them.
About the Author: Joe DeCaro
Went to my first Mets game, a Mayors Trophy game at Shea, in '73. We beat the Yankees 8-4 and I was hooked. I marched in two Banner Day parades, and before the Grand Slam single, there was the "Hendu Can Do" grand slam - I was there. I've collected Mets memorabilia all my life and started Mets Merized Online to feed my addiction.
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Yes, it’s very frustrating, just sitting here and letting both Bay and Molina take us for a ride. i think we should give them a 48-hour deadline, or fuhgeddaboudit, and move on to the (ugh) alternatives like Cust or Gomes.
i doubt we’ll trade for Crawford; i’m ticked as all heck, we poofed on Pierre (and Millwood). i don’t ‘get’ what we’ve been doing. And we haven’t done an iota to deal with the rotation!
This is absurd!
I cant believe that they had the balls to go back to the Redsox, all while a better offer is on the table from the Mets. This just keeps getting crazier by the minute. At this point why would we even want Bay on the Mets when he clearly doesn’t want to be with us? This may very well be Bobby Bonilla part 2.
Somehow, that bonkers warm and fuzzy feeling I expressed last week rapidly ebbs w/ the latest news.
Watching the Mets green doppelganger in the Meadowlands yesterday didn’t help much either.
The Daily News has not exactly been kind to the Mets this offseason. I would take Madden’s information with a few grains of salt.
If this is true, and i believe it could be, this is a pretty ridiculous move by Bay and Urbon to try to get more money. The Mets can wait at this point because they arent just saving a buck or two, they are saving millions. there are no other offers for bay, and thats the problem. there is no competition for the Mets and as an agent hes trying to get the most for his money for his client. we will just have to wait and see, but i do applaud the mets for not going overboard and not letting the agent control everything.
From the standpoint of poetic retribution — not good baseball sense — maybe the Mets should invoke some kind of negative offering timetable. Every day that Bay still doesn’t sign, reduce the offer by 1%.
When he signs, bring back Tony Bernazard as Bay’s psychologist. He he he.
Wow, can the mets front office take a hint!!??? Are u f*ing kidding me?!? This guy does not wanna come to ny, wether is for any of those mention reason he doesn’t wanna come to the mets, sign holliday, get (sigh) delgado, marquis/garland/ and sheets and move on!!!!
If this is the perception of the Mets from around the league than it’s probably in the best interests to change GMs and start giving us a new face
The cardinal r offering holliday 5 years around 18 mill.. call and find out if 6 year and 108 million would swoop him in right away and drop bay.. I’D guarantee if we do that bay will get 10 mill per season. Is pathetic how we r perceived, from an almost ws ring in ’06 to a comparable laughingstock!! Fire this incompetent gm if he’s not capable to multitask.
It is even bigger than that. Just what were these geniuses thinking about when they designed this par? Did they give any thought to their offensive stars or future offensive stars? Did they see offensive FAs flocking to San Fran (not) and San Diego (not) and tell themselves they had nothing to worry about? The evidence was out there. Remember Comerica the first year? Ah well, there does not seem to be any area in which met management excels, except at making excuses to their fans.
I understand the notion of “pitching wins” but they built the park forcing these pitchers to be good when they’re not.. I’ve been clamoring for defense and pitching, our offense was good enough as it was, omar has done a horrendous job all around, ur 100% right, if it wasn’t for money beltran wouldn’t be here, pedro the same, delgado ripped him for trying to built “los mets”, I said the same thing about putz in metsblog and I got booted out, guess I was right all along, wit cheap good players out there who r utilitys he’s givng out 2 mill for cora when kennedy can be had at half of that, omar has to go, unless he gets a super trade to help pitching we’re gonna be in deep s**t..
Omar is no visionary. Any GM could have walked in here and wrote huge checks. Remember, Beltran tried to bolt to the Yankees. And nobody wanted Pedro at his price. Santana fell into our lap when the sox and yanks effectively negated each other. Omar did nothing exceptional. And he never had a plan. You can see that by the way he builds his pitching staff and his bench. No attention whatsoever. Just sign 14 hasbeens every ST and see what happens. I actually thought getting Putz was a great idea last year, until I saw him pitch, found out he had had arm trouble, and read that omar knew about it before the trade. Grounds for dismissal? Hell, grounds for execution.
To me, Bay and his agent are playing chicken with the Mets without any backup offers to rest on so what’s the big deal. The Mets are in the driver’s seat here. This is business folks. It ain’t personal.
Just read Jason Marquis is signing with the Nationals….will we ever sign anyone?????
Marquis signs wit the nationals.. Omar, have u ever, ever, heard of muti tasking? That’s when u able to do more than 1 thing at once!!!!! If our focused is pitching and defense why the hell we’re focusin on a fatphuk, and a guy who obviously don’t wanna be here!!!??? Jesus!!!
The only vision Omar Miniya had for this team was to turn them into some B.S. Los Mets.
I’ve been saying this along and people thought it was racist of me to tell it like it is. I’m basing my statement on cold hard FACTS and Mets fans had better recognize this.
Omar Miniya hasn’t done anything that any Mets fan could have done ourselves. All we had to do was offer the most money, the most years, and a no trade clause. Who couldn’t have trade 3 or 4 scrubs for Santana after the Twins had no other choice but to get SOMETHING, ANYTHING for him.
Miniya has proven that his reputation as a good GM was overblown. He supposedly did a good job on a shoestring budget with the Expos, and now he has access to the highest payroll in the NL and there are at least 10 teams that are better than us with a lower payroll.
This gut needs to be fired or sent to his beloved D.R. to scrounge up some more scrubs. The Mets will wind up doing to Miniya what the Knicks did with Isiah Thomas. Send him away and don’t have contact of any kind with the organization.
Eventually the Wilpons will get it right….unfortunately it won’t happen in our lifetimes. The Wilpon who will get it right is just a gleam in his daddy’s eye right now.
Its so bad now I would be happy with Joan Payson owning the team again and M Donald Grant as the GM
I understand Bay and other FA being concerned about the future of this organization, and I’m not sure Bay is even close to being the right answer to this team. Him dragging this on isn’t something the fans are going to forget though, and if he struggles, he is going to have a hard time winning the fans over (assuming he signs here that is)
also, I agree we need a lot of pitching and that Omar is a complete moron for not multi tasking…but are people really that upset we didn’t sign marquis for 2 years? Everyone is so desperate for a signing that anyone will do. i personally wanted nothing to do with this guy. we need to get someone from the remaining group, but at the right price and term. Piniero isn’t worth 4 years either…wolf isn’t worth 3 years. Anyone that is left deserves no ore than a 1 year deal with option for a second
The thing about pitchers is that if you want them, you have to offer a year more than they are worth. That is the market for them. If you are indifferent, then do not go the extra year. The mets were obviously indifferent to Marquis. Piniero, who I consider comparable, s asking for 4 years. That is beyond reasonable. I say sign Sheets to an incentive deal for one year.