Comments on: There Will Be No World Series Title For The Mets In 2010 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:16:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: a.j, http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33322 a.j, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:21:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33322 23 years? i'd say we have a lot of patience... 23 years? i’d say we have a lot of patience…

]]> By: Bob L http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33300 Bob L Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:33:30 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33300 i agree we need top talent to fill our holes to revive this team in 2010 to be able to 'contend'...win 85+ games. My points were that Lackey would be scarfed up by the Yanks, Holliday by maybe the Yanks or Angels, and that there were other very good options out there across the board in FA-land and also potentially via trades that wouldn't shred our entire system...and to do those that seemed best and not wait until teams had maneuvered around us and the pickings got very slim. Turns out the Yanks look like they may indeed trade for Doc, which along with the Angles NOT chasing Lackey makes me very suspicious of Lackey's health. i now think Holliday would be a great choice for LF because of his hitting ability (not HRs). Or even a trade for Crawford or Phillips (assuming Castilllo gone). Now, with the Burrell rumor (a 3-way trade to get rid of Castillo), i'm depressed. We need to sign Figgins for 2B, or trade for Phillips...and maybe Burrell rebounds in his last contract year to at least his 5-yr avg (04 - 08) of 30HRs/96RBI's .876 OPS, .260 avg. We shall see. i agree we need top talent to fill our holes to revive this team in 2010 to be able to ‘contend’…win 85+ games.
My points were that Lackey would be scarfed up by the Yanks, Holliday by maybe the Yanks or Angels, and that there were other very good options out there across the board in FA-land and also potentially via trades that wouldn’t shred our entire system…and to do those that seemed best and not wait until teams had maneuvered around us and the pickings got very slim.
Turns out the Yanks look like they may indeed trade for Doc, which along with the Angles NOT chasing Lackey makes me very suspicious of Lackey’s health.
i now think Holliday would be a great choice for LF because of his hitting ability (not HRs). Or even a trade for Crawford or Phillips (assuming Castilllo gone).
Now, with the Burrell rumor (a 3-way trade to get rid of Castillo), i’m depressed. We need to sign Figgins for 2B, or trade for Phillips…and maybe Burrell rebounds in his last contract year to at least his 5-yr avg (04 – 08) of 30HRs/96RBI’s .876 OPS, .260 avg. We shall see.

]]> By: Anthony http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33297 Anthony Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:05:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33297 Well when u see in the Dailynews that the Mets are talking about getting Jose Guillen and now in the Newsday the Mets are having discussions about trading for Pat Burrell and bringing in Delgado for 1 more year, it doesn't paint a very good picture about the chances of the Mets getting Holliday as well as getting having Murphy at 1b and it also gives u the sense that where the Mets are going to spend there big funds on, which is probably lackey. I mean it would not surprise me now if the 3rd team the mets and cubs were looking for as far as this castillo/bradley trade mess is the Rays, the cubs seem willing to do Bradley for Castillo, Tampa was the other team interested in Bradley besides texas and now with this thing in Newsday by Ken Davidoff about the Mets and Burrell, do the Math. Plus Burrell is on the last year of a contract. Well when u see in the Dailynews that the Mets are talking about getting Jose Guillen and now in the Newsday the Mets are having discussions about trading for Pat Burrell and bringing in Delgado for 1 more year, it doesn’t paint a very good picture about the chances of the Mets getting Holliday as well as getting having Murphy at 1b and it also gives u the sense that where the Mets are going to spend there big funds on, which is probably lackey. I mean it would not surprise me now if the 3rd team the mets and cubs were looking for as far as this castillo/bradley trade mess is the Rays, the cubs seem willing to do Bradley for Castillo, Tampa was the other team interested in Bradley besides texas and now with this thing in Newsday by Ken Davidoff about the Mets and Burrell, do the Math. Plus Burrell is on the last year of a contract.

]]> By: danny krieger http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33293 danny krieger Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:37:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33293 I'd rather get Holliday for LF. He's young and should be a consistently good hitter for the duration of a long contract. Long term contracts for pitchers rarely work. Also I'm partial to Murphy, so if they get Holliday, it becomes more sensible to play Murphy at first. I’d rather get Holliday for LF. He’s young and should be a consistently good hitter for the duration of a long contract. Long term contracts for pitchers rarely work.

Also I’m partial to Murphy, so if they get Holliday, it becomes more sensible to play Murphy at first.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33292 theonlymaskman Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:33:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33292 Yes, you got my point. It's a 2 to 3 yr project and our best shot is to make sure we get at least one top line player through either trade or FA signing this off season. After that you sign secondary players to fill as many of the holes as budget $ allow. Yes, you got my point. It’s a 2 to 3 yr project and our best shot is to make sure we get at least one top line player through either trade or FA signing this off season. After that you sign secondary players to fill as many of the holes as budget $ allow.

]]> By: danny krieger http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33291 danny krieger Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:23:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33291 I know what you're saying. I'm reaching for the stars. We need some luck on our side for 60% + to occur. The law of averages says that with what happened last year we should have better luck this year. Two or three years - it's impossible to predict. And that's just to make the playoffs. I know what you’re saying. I’m reaching for the stars. We need some luck on our side for 60% + to occur. The law of averages says that with what happened last year we should have better luck this year.

Two or three years – it’s impossible to predict. And that’s just to make the playoffs.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33287 theonlymaskman Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:33:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33287 The thing that is right about this article is the title. A World Series title is not in the offing for the Mets in 2010. The rehab of this team is at least a 2 yr and probably 3 yr project. Your outline is full of too many questions: 1. Reyes's performance is unknown and may not match prior years 2. Beltran is all hope based on the condition of his injury and whether it reoccurs 3. Will David Wright be able to get Citifield off his back and have some actual support in the lineup? 4. Can Francoeur progress at getting on base? 5. Can Murphy achieve consistent ML performance levels? 6. Does Santana return from surgery equal to his prior performance? 7. Is trading Castillo wise as he was the one reliable player in 2009? 8. Obtaining 3 second line pitchers when we need a top line one and your 9th point begs the question of which of those 3 catchers is the correct choice? With that many questions, you can pretty much figure that at least half of the answers come out wrong. The point is there is just too much to go wrong. Hopefuly the Mets make a couple steps in the right direction and not deteriorate further. Mets fans can argue all they want about the right course of action and which FA's to sign and what trades to make, but in the end, the Mets need to bring in top line talent over a period of the next 2 to 3 seasons. We need to sign at least one of Lackey, Halladay, Holliday or Bay this year. If we fail to get every one of those, the headway will likely be very meager in 2010. In my opinion, we need to focus on top line not secondary as the up front approach. Supplement with the secondary guys, but do not try to substitute patchwork for real talent. The thing that is right about this article is the title. A World Series title is not in the offing for the Mets in 2010. The rehab of this team is at least a 2 yr and probably 3 yr project. Your outline is full of too many questions: 1. Reyes’s performance is unknown and may not match prior years 2. Beltran is all hope based on the condition of his injury and whether it reoccurs 3. Will David Wright be able to get Citifield off his back and have some actual support in the lineup? 4. Can Francoeur progress at getting on base? 5. Can Murphy achieve consistent ML performance levels? 6. Does Santana return from surgery equal to his prior performance? 7. Is trading Castillo wise as he was the one reliable player in 2009? 8. Obtaining 3 second line pitchers when we need a top line one and your 9th point begs the question of which of those 3 catchers is the correct choice? With that many questions, you can pretty much figure that at least half of the answers come out wrong. The point is there is just too much to go wrong. Hopefuly the Mets make a couple steps in the right direction and not deteriorate further.

Mets fans can argue all they want about the right course of action and which FA’s to sign and what trades to make, but in the end, the Mets need to bring in top line talent over a period of the next 2 to 3 seasons. We need to sign at least one of Lackey, Halladay, Holliday or Bay this year. If we fail to get every one of those, the headway will likely be very meager in 2010. In my opinion, we need to focus on top line not secondary as the up front approach. Supplement with the secondary guys, but do not try to substitute patchwork for real talent.

]]> By: Deebo http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33264 Deebo Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:00:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33264 Good point on Barmes and Stewart. I forgot about those guys! Dang. I think Castillo can bring back some relief help, but what you said changes things. I think at least a portion of what I said will happen. I have hope, not in Mets management, but in the system. Let's hope I'm right. Good point on Barmes and Stewart. I forgot about those guys! Dang. I think Castillo can bring back some relief help, but what you said changes things.

I think at least a portion of what I said will happen. I have hope, not in Mets management, but in the system. Let’s hope I’m right.

]]> By: Jeff http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33246 Jeff Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:24:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33246 You know what as much as I like Dan Murphy, I see him as more of a back up 1st Baseman. Last year he was clutch, but when runners weren't really on base which didn't help all that much. Plus lets not forget he did make many an error at first, but if we can't find someone solid then of course Murph will be just fine. Reyes is obviously fine at Short, and we can hopefully have Alex Cora on stand-by if he gets injured for the 100th time. I liked Alex Cora last year, I hope he sticks around. As old as he is, I still love Delgado. Just a classy guy who goes about his business in a positive way and gets the job done. Carlos Beltran is cocky, but he has every right too because when healthy hes without a doubt our go to Centerfielder. Jeff Francouer will be just fine with the Mets as well in Right Field. He is fast, can hit, and defensevly is on top of his game. Here's a guy who could possibly be a team leader down the road. David Wright at third OBVIOUSLY!. I can't decide as far as Castillo, and the catching position, but I beleive that Thole should come up from AAA sooner then later! I saw him play at a Connecticut Defenders Game and he kicked butt! We need Jason Marquis. I think the Mets would be stupid not to aquire somebody of his caliber and who is begging the Mets to come and play. You know what as much as I like Dan Murphy, I see him as more of a back up 1st Baseman. Last year he was clutch, but when runners weren’t really on base which didn’t help all that much. Plus lets not forget he did make many an error at first, but if we can’t find someone solid then of course Murph will be just fine.

Reyes is obviously fine at Short, and we can hopefully have Alex Cora on stand-by if he gets injured for the 100th time. I liked Alex Cora last year, I hope he sticks around.

As old as he is, I still love Delgado. Just a classy guy who goes about his business in a positive way and gets the job done.

Carlos Beltran is cocky, but he has every right too because when healthy hes without a doubt our go to Centerfielder.

Jeff Francouer will be just fine with the Mets as well in Right Field. He is fast, can hit, and defensevly is on top of his game. Here’s a guy who could possibly be a team leader down the road.

David Wright at third OBVIOUSLY!.

I can’t decide as far as Castillo, and the catching position, but I beleive that Thole should come up from AAA sooner then later! I saw him play at a Connecticut Defenders Game and he kicked butt!

We need Jason Marquis. I think the Mets would be stupid not to aquire somebody of his caliber and who is begging the Mets to come and play.

]]> By: Bob L http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33219 Bob L Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:23:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33219 i agree on Murphy; give him a shot. i can see him playing a good 1B and giving us 270 - 280, with 15- 18 Hrs and 70/80 RBI's next year. And he could develop into a 290 20/100 guy with a good glove. How ironic, huh?! i may be nuts but i want to emphasize defense and speed in our lineup as much as possible, steal bases, play a great brand of small ball, disrupt the opposing teams, and hit a couple out. That, to go with our improved pitching (with better arms coming down the road from our farm), is the way to win at CitiField. i truly doubt we'll be able to get Holliday and i think pitching/speed/defense/pesky hitting will win more games at Citi than 'power'. And, again, i don't want to be waiting while the pretty girls leave the dance with the really rich and famous guys. i agree on Murphy; give him a shot. i can see him playing a good 1B and giving us 270 – 280, with 15- 18 Hrs and 70/80 RBI’s next year. And he could develop into a 290 20/100 guy with a good glove. How ironic, huh?!
i may be nuts but i want to emphasize defense and speed in our lineup as much as possible, steal bases, play a great brand of small ball, disrupt the opposing teams, and hit a couple out. That, to go with our improved pitching (with better arms coming down the road from our farm), is the way to win at CitiField.
i truly doubt we’ll be able to get Holliday and i think pitching/speed/defense/pesky hitting will win more games at Citi than ‘power’.
And, again, i don’t want to be waiting while the pretty girls leave the dance with the really rich and famous guys.

]]> By: Chicho http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33212 Chicho Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:51:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33212 I like it but its not going to happen. I doubt the Padres trade Gonzalez.There is no way will take that offer.You will have to trade pelfrey, Martinez, Mejja and Holt To have a chance at getting him.I don't think they will even take that. Why would the Rockies want Castillo? they already have two players who can play second Barmes and Stewart. I like it but its not going to happen. I doubt the Padres trade Gonzalez.There is no way will take that offer.You will have to trade pelfrey, Martinez, Mejja and Holt To have a chance at getting him.I don’t think they will even take that.

Why would the Rockies want Castillo? they already have two players who can play second Barmes and Stewart.

]]> By: Deebo http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33209 Deebo Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:36:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33209 OK, fair enough. 1. Trade for 2B Phillips from the Reds (low level prosects and a back up should do it). Since Cincinatti is in dealing mode, if they included Bronson Arroyo (durable, pitches like a number 3 starter and rarely gets injured) even at the money he commands, he would hold a staff together from the bottom of the rotation to the top 2 starters. 2. Trade Castillo (and eat half of his contract for THIS SEASON ONLY) and Mike Pelfrey to the Rockies for Manny Corpas and Taylor Bucholz. 3. Trade for Adrian Gonzalez and David Eckstien. Think not? Remember Mike Piazza, friend. Ike Davis, Bobby Parnell, Wilmer Flores and Angel Pagan. 4. Sign Joe Bimel to a two year deal. PLEASE GIVE PEDRO SOME HELP!!! 5. Re-sign J.J. Putz (I know he got on my nerves, too. But I'll give him one more chance. 6. Sign Bengie Molina for a two year, incentive laden deal. (older than Rod Barajas, but can handle a pitching staff and you don't need him to be Joe Mauer. Speaking of which, hmm...2011 maybe?) 7. John Lackey. Now, it is my belief from watching the past 3 years, that it won't take Barry Zito numbers. 3 years/75 million. Club option for number 4. Front load the contract. Because... 8. Matt Holiday. 5 years/ $100 million. Back loaded. 9. Sign Brandon Lyon Roster: 1. Jose Reyes 2. Brandon Phillips 3. Matt Holiday 4. Adrien Gonzalez 5. Carols Beltran 6. David Wright 7. Jeff Francouer 8. Bengie Molina Pitchers 1. Johan Santana 2. John Lackey 3. Bronson Arroyo 4. Oliver Perez 5. John Maine Relief 1. K-Rod 2. J.J. 3. Jonathan Niese 4.De La Rosa 5. Corpas 6. Bimel 7. Brandon Lyon Bench 1. Eckstien 2. Evans 3. Santos 4.Jerry Hairston, Jr. 5. Cliff Floyd (Redux? He's not playing every day and he's a lefty) That's about $200 million dollars. The Mets get a combined $800 million from their TV rights and the stadium. THAT, Chicho, is what I mean by not being cheap. They're playing in the big leagues. It's time to tell the Phillies to come get them some! OK, fair enough.

1. Trade for 2B Phillips from the Reds (low level prosects and a back up should do it). Since Cincinatti is in dealing mode, if they included Bronson Arroyo (durable, pitches like a number 3 starter and rarely gets injured) even at the money he commands, he would hold a staff together from the bottom of the rotation to the top 2 starters.

2. Trade Castillo (and eat half of his contract for THIS SEASON ONLY) and Mike Pelfrey to the Rockies for Manny Corpas and Taylor Bucholz.

3. Trade for Adrian Gonzalez and David Eckstien. Think not? Remember Mike Piazza, friend. Ike Davis, Bobby Parnell, Wilmer Flores and Angel Pagan.

4. Sign Joe Bimel to a two year deal. PLEASE GIVE PEDRO SOME HELP!!!

5. Re-sign J.J. Putz (I know he got on my nerves, too. But I’ll give him one more chance.

6. Sign Bengie Molina for a two year, incentive laden deal. (older than Rod Barajas, but can handle a pitching staff and you don’t need him to be Joe Mauer. Speaking of which, hmm…2011 maybe?)

7. John Lackey. Now, it is my belief from watching the past 3 years, that it won’t take Barry Zito numbers. 3 years/75 million. Club option for number 4. Front load the contract. Because…

8. Matt Holiday. 5 years/ $100 million. Back loaded.

9. Sign Brandon Lyon

Roster:

1. Jose Reyes
2. Brandon Phillips
3. Matt Holiday
4. Adrien Gonzalez
5. Carols Beltran
6. David Wright
7. Jeff Francouer
8. Bengie Molina

Pitchers

1. Johan Santana
2. John Lackey
3. Bronson Arroyo
4. Oliver Perez
5. John Maine

Relief

1. K-Rod
2. J.J.
3. Jonathan Niese
4.De La Rosa
5. Corpas
6. Bimel
7. Brandon Lyon

Bench

1. Eckstien
2. Evans
3. Santos
4.Jerry Hairston, Jr.
5. Cliff Floyd (Redux? He’s not playing every day and he’s a lefty)

That’s about $200 million dollars. The Mets get a combined $800 million from their TV rights and the stadium. THAT, Chicho, is what I mean by not being cheap. They’re playing in the big leagues. It’s time to tell the Phillies to come get them some!

]]> By: Chicho http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33195 Chicho Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:27:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33195 I understand that you think Lackey and Halladay are better than Berdard and Sheets.The reason I'm saying to sign them is because they will sign cheap. And you have to agree they have alot of upside.My point on Carpenter was that they said the same thing about him. He couldn't get on the field. He will never be the same pitcher.And they were right he wasn't the same pitcher he was better he had his best season.Sometimes a year off can help a picther.Bedard will likely miss the first month of the season so thats he is my 5 starter. I didn't know that earlier.I can't belive you are complaing about Vazquez.He has pitched over 200 innings 5 years in a row. And has started 32 games or more 9 years in a row. I thought you liked consistent pitchers without injuries.Plus he is not as expensive as lackey. Kawakami would only cost 13 Mill over 2 years. He is not a bad pitcher. Why don't you write what you think the Mets should do? Because everything I say you think is horrible. I understand that you think Lackey and Halladay are better than Berdard and Sheets.The reason I’m saying to sign them is because they will sign cheap. And you have to agree they have alot of upside.My point on Carpenter was that they said the same thing about him. He couldn’t get on the field. He will never be the same pitcher.And they were right he wasn’t the same pitcher he was better he had his best season.Sometimes a year off can help a picther.Bedard will likely miss the first month of the season so thats he is my 5 starter. I didn’t know that earlier.I can’t belive you are complaing about Vazquez.He has pitched over 200 innings 5 years in a row. And has started 32 games or more 9 years in a row. I thought you liked consistent pitchers without injuries.Plus he is not as expensive as lackey. Kawakami would only cost 13 Mill over 2 years. He is not a bad pitcher. Why don’t you write what you think the Mets should do? Because everything I say you think is horrible.

]]> By: Chicho http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33193 Chicho Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:10:27 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33193 I think the Yankees want to go after pitching this year.I bet they wind up with Halladay and Champman.I don't think the Yankees will get him.I know his defense isn't very good but he is one of the games best hitters.I agree that he is not going to have as many home runs here than in Colorado. He can still hit .320 BA 20 HR's 100 RBI at citi field. The reason why I changed my mind on Crawford was for the same reason you said.Why give up Pelfery and Fernando Martinez for Crawford while you can sign Holliday? I wouldn't give up on Martinez yet. He is still very young and has alot of potential. I also wouldn't give up on Murphy.Let him play this year.He had a bad year this year but this was his first year. Youkilis had similar numbers as Murphy in his first full year. Youk 279 13 HR's 72 RBI Mruphy 266 12 HR's 63 RBI. I think the Yankees want to go after pitching this year.I bet they wind up with Halladay and Champman.I don’t think the Yankees will get him.I know his defense isn’t very good but he is one of the games best hitters.I agree that he is not going to have as many home runs here than in Colorado. He can still hit .320 BA 20 HR’s 100 RBI at citi field. The reason why I changed my mind on Crawford was for the same reason you said.Why give up Pelfery and Fernando Martinez for Crawford while you can sign Holliday? I wouldn’t give up on Martinez yet. He is still very young and has alot of potential. I also wouldn’t give up on Murphy.Let him play this year.He had a bad year this year but this was his first year. Youkilis had similar numbers as Murphy in his first full year. Youk 279 13 HR’s 72 RBI Mruphy 266 12 HR’s 63 RBI.

]]> By: Deebo http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33192 Deebo Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:58:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33192 1. Signing Holliday would be nice, but that doesn't solve the pitching issue. 2. Bedard and Sheets combined don't add up to what the two BEST AVAILABLE pitchers do 3. If Carpenter was on the market, I would only give him 2 years because he- not Lackey or Halliday- is the poster child of "oft- injured ace". In point of fact, I hadn't looked at your post until you mentioned it. It made me laugh that you had Bedard as a number 5!! WHAT HAPPENED, I thought that he waas your number 2?! And Kenshin Kawakami?! You must have been tired when you wrote that. He has only pitched one year in the majors, he's older than Lackey and Halliday and when he came to the majors his ERA went up a full run! And wasn't Javier Vasquez the same guy in 2003 (in New York, mind you) who could barely get an out in the regular season, let alone the playoffs! AND HE'S YOUR NUMBER 2?! **BUZZ** I'm sorry, that's the wrong answer. Please try again. 1. Signing Holliday would be nice, but that doesn’t solve the pitching issue.

2. Bedard and Sheets combined don’t add up to what the two BEST AVAILABLE pitchers do

3. If Carpenter was on the market, I would only give him 2 years because he- not Lackey or Halliday- is the poster child of “oft- injured ace”.

In point of fact, I hadn’t looked at your post until you mentioned it. It made me laugh that you had Bedard as a number 5!! WHAT HAPPENED, I thought that he waas your number 2?!

And Kenshin Kawakami?! You must have been tired when you wrote that. He has only pitched one year in the majors, he’s older than Lackey and Halliday and when he came to the majors his ERA went up a full run!

And wasn’t Javier Vasquez the same guy in 2003 (in New York, mind you) who could barely get an out in the regular season, let alone the playoffs! AND HE’S YOUR NUMBER 2?! **BUZZ** I’m sorry, that’s the wrong answer. Please try again.

]]> By: Bob L http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33185 Bob L Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:33:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33185 Morning, Chicho. i definitely agree that the Red Sox re-sign Bay, but i think the Yankees re-sign Damon...more for DH and some OF, and also go after and get Holliday. He's a Boras client. Rember, we got Beltran only after the Yankees turned him down when Boras made a final pass to the Yanks at a 'cheaper' contract than we paid?!? The other thing about Holliday is that his defense won't do it at CitiField and i believe 20% + of his power gets 'lost' in the nutty dimensions of our ballpark. i am fixated on pitching and defense, small ball and solid hitting to take advantage of those nutty dimensions. Pelfrey is gone from Plan B because he has been shipped to Tampa for Crawford in a deal. If we traded Castillo for Pierre, we'd still have Mike. i figured if we got either Crawford or Granderson, we'd have to give up some MLB-ready guys, Pelfrey, for all his 2009 warts, still intrigues a lot of people.i don't want to trade him, but you have to 'give' to 'get'. Delgado i agree might work for 1 more year, but then we relegate Murphy to AAA or the bench and so i think pairing a DeRosa or a Nady or a Jacobs with Murphy makes more sense. As far as Sheets is concerned. He's worth a shot, no doubt. i penciled him for 15 wins (which might be a stretch--i'm desperate!) because i've read in a couple places, he'll be 100% by Spring. If that's not the case, maybe we go for Marquis and Garland--two 200+IP horses--Wolf/Piniero(ugh!)and Sheets/Bedard on incentive-plus contracts as 'flings'? My whole point on this off-season and let's plan a blueprint for a rebounding season in 2010. Hopefully, the front office is doing this. There are a ton of FA's out there, the 'B' types that can definitely help us improve. Let's think outside the box and not settle for waiting the last song to play before we make our move. Morning, Chicho. i definitely agree that the Red Sox re-sign Bay, but i think the Yankees re-sign Damon…more for DH and some OF, and also go after and get Holliday. He’s a Boras client. Rember, we got Beltran only after the Yankees turned him down when Boras made a final pass to the Yanks at a ‘cheaper’ contract than we paid?!?
The other thing about Holliday is that his defense won’t do it at CitiField and i believe 20% + of his power gets ‘lost’ in the nutty dimensions of our ballpark.
i am fixated on pitching and defense, small ball and solid hitting to take advantage of those nutty dimensions.
Pelfrey is gone from Plan B because he has been shipped to Tampa for Crawford in a deal. If we traded Castillo for Pierre, we’d still have Mike. i figured if we got either Crawford or Granderson, we’d have to give up some MLB-ready guys, Pelfrey, for all his 2009 warts, still intrigues a lot of people.i don’t want to trade him, but you have to ‘give’ to ‘get’.
Delgado i agree might work for 1 more year, but then we relegate Murphy to AAA or the bench and so i think pairing a DeRosa or a Nady or a Jacobs with Murphy makes more sense.
As far as Sheets is concerned. He’s worth a shot, no doubt. i penciled him for 15 wins (which might be a stretch–i’m desperate!) because i’ve read in a couple places, he’ll be 100% by Spring. If that’s not the case, maybe we go for Marquis and Garland–two 200+IP horses–Wolf/Piniero(ugh!)and Sheets/Bedard on incentive-plus contracts as ‘flings’?
My whole point on this off-season and let’s plan a blueprint for a rebounding season in 2010. Hopefully, the front office is doing this. There are a ton of FA’s out there, the ‘B’ types that can definitely help us improve. Let’s think outside the box and not settle for waiting the last song to play before we make our move.

]]> By: Sane Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33181 Sane Mets Fan Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:52:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33181 Why is it that everyone here seems to think of Mark DeRosa as the best thing since sliced bread? I'm sorry, but it's just not the case. By the way, you think we'd be better if Reyes stole 65 bases and Santana won 20 games? The goals are a mighty bit of a stretch. How about we start by hoping both are healthy enough to play through the season? Why is it that everyone here seems to think of Mark DeRosa as the best thing since sliced bread?

I’m sorry, but it’s just not the case.

By the way, you think we’d be better if Reyes stole 65 bases and Santana won 20 games?

The goals are a mighty bit of a stretch. How about we start by hoping both are healthy enough to play through the season?

]]> By: Chicho http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33171 Chicho Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:51:58 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33171 Carpenter also couldn't stay on the field and look at the year he had. Carpenter also couldn’t stay on the field and look at the year he had.

]]> By: Chicho http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33170 Chicho Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:48:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33170 I think the Mets have a chance on Holliday. Because I think the Red Sox will resign Bay and the Yankees will resign Damon.I think after that the Mets can outbid all the other teams who would want Holliday. I think the Mets have a chance on Holliday. Because I think the Red Sox will resign Bay and the Yankees will resign Damon.I think after that the Mets can outbid all the other teams who would want Holliday.

]]> By: Chicho http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/there-will-be-no-world-series-title-for-the-mets-in-2010.html#comment-33169 Chicho Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:43:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=16489#comment-33169 Did you look at my other plan? I don't think saying to sign Holliday is being cheap. And why do you hate Sheets and Bedard so much? Did you look at my other plan? I don’t think saying to sign Holliday is being cheap. And why do you hate Sheets and Bedard so much?

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