Comments on: Is Signing Lackey A Smarter Move Than Trading For Halladay?

By: jdon

jdon — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:12:49 +0000

better to buy than trade, unlesss you are trading Castillo.

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[...] D from Mets Merized Online prefers that the Mets John Lackey over Roy [...]

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:09:01 +0000

STEVE, YOU HAD ME ALL THE WAY TO THE 8th INNING MENTION OF MAINE. I’M FIRST CONCERNED A MOVE OF MAINE TO THE PEN, ESP SETUP WOULD BE TANTAMOUNT TO CREATING A HEILMAN REPLICANT. BESIDES HOW CAN ANYONE SUGGEST A SP WHO’S JUST SUFFERED THROUGH HIS FIRST MAJOR INJURY, BADLY & COUNTING ON HIM FOR REPEATED USEAGE. WHERE TO WE MAIL HIS ARM ONCE IT ACTUALLY FALLS OFF. PERSONALLY I’D PREFER A REINKING OF PUTZ, IF AS HEALTHY AS REPORTS INDICATE. AT LEAST WE KNOW, HE’S AWARE OF WHAT ‘NORMAL’ ARM FATIGUE FEELS LIKE TO DIFFERENTIASTE BETWEEN SOMETHING U ACTUALLY PITCH THROUGH & SOMETHING U SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF. I’M NOT CONVINCED JOHNNY MAINE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE & TENDS TO BE A TAD OVERCAUTIOUS IN THESE MATTERS NOW HE’S ACTUALLY BEEN INJURED. PERSONALLY, I EVALUATE MAINE HIGHER THAN PELF FROM A CURRENT PERFORMANCE LEVEL WHILE WHEN CONSIDERING POTENTIAL MY NOD GOES TO PELF FOR GREATER CEILING IN THAT REGARD. I’VE STATED EMPHATICALLY MY WILLINGNESS TO DEAL BOTH IN THE SAME PKG TO BREWS FOR PRINCE, REPLACING THEM WITH A LACKEY or HALLADAY AS WELL AS MARQUIS FOR #3 IN MY STRONG ROTATION. MAINE’S LAST START WAS A TREMENDOUS WEIGHT OFF OF HIS FRAGILE EGO. IT IS MY STYRONGEST BELIEF THAT BOTH MAINE & PELFREY WERE PHYSICALLY HELPED & CONFIDENCE DAMAGED BY PETERSON’S INFLUENCE. NEITHER CREDITED THEMSELVES RATHER RICK FOR THEIR SUCCESSES. A REUNION IS LIKELY BEST FOR BOTH FOR CURRENT POERFORMANCE LEVELS YET DETRIMENTAL LONGTERM.

By: CountryboyCMT

CountryboyCMT — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:57:20 +0000

Kevin, that’s just samantics. My point is if you were actually the GM of the Mets, obviously you would have to make a decision on if you SHOULD go after Halliday or not, so that’s a given . When King Albert becomes a free agent(if he doesnt sign an extention with St.louis), are you going to wonder IF they SHOULD go after him, or might it be first more REALISTIC to see if you actually COULD go after him. I think that before you could decide if you SHOULD,you must first look at if you realistically COULD. This means is he truely available to me (would Toronto except my proposal, and would Roy except to play in NY and in the NL). If Toronto wants no part of my trade, or Halliday wants no part of NY, then there is no SHOULD, because there is no COULD. For the record, I believe they COULD and so SHOULD. Partly because I believe the package it will take will be less damaging to the Farm System than most, due to the lack of desire of Yanks,RSox,Phils,LAD & LAA to give up the talent and then subsequent dollars it would take to secure Roy. Partly because I believe that of all the teams mentioned in the mix, the Mets are the ONLY team NOT considered a Playoff Caliber Franchise, and NEEDS him. All the other teams could use a pitcher like Halliday but they don’t NEED him. They all have a 1-2 punch that can sustain them through a Playoff Series without adding a pitcher,right now, for the Mets, after Johan,what????. After the last three years, the Mets are in a position that they MUST play significant games in OCTOBER, as September won’t cut it anymore. SHOULD the Mets go after Lackey, who would cetainly help, but could also go 15-12 or go after Halliday who could realistically go 20-8 (not to mention his impact on the bullpen and the renewed interest bringing him in would create for futre Free Agent signings). It all depends mostly on IF they COULD.

By: Pirates21

Pirates21 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:17:44 +0000

But Kevin, the question is…would Roy waive his no-trade to go to a home-run hitters heaven like CBP ?

will Philly commit 23 million a year, with Lee coming up for free-agencye…with Rollins coming up for free-agency…and Howard coming up for free-agency…followed up shortly by Hamels…and with a leaky bullpen now that Lidge is not such a sure thing…

Will Philly also trade the potential replacements for all 3 players listed…

It might be simpler for them to just sign Lackey…otherwise they are making their window to win, that much shorter…

By: Noah

Noah — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:10:44 +0000

Honestly I think we should not get either Halladay or Lackey. I think we should go after HOLLIDAY so we can also get pitchers with him. If we get Lackey, we probably will not get a left fielder. But if we get HOLLIDAY, we will probably be able to afford at least 2 of the pretty good pitchers I am interested in, Randy Wolf, Joel Pineiro, and Jason Marquis, all coming off almost as good years as Lackey.
So would you rather have HOLLIDAY and lets say Marquis and PIniero, or just Lackey or just Halladay. But if I have to go with either Halladay or Lackey I would definentely go with Lackey because Lackey costs less money, is younger, and does not cost lots of prospects. The only way the Blue Jays would trade Halladay is if we include Davis in a deal, and something tells me Davis might end up being our next great prospect, because he actually has stats to prove he is good, not just a lot of hype like Fernando Martinez.

By: chris

chris — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:25:13 +0000

Trade the scrubs (except Davis), fork over the cash and get Halliday. Hell, when he is forty he will be a 7 inning pitcher. Right now he is an 8-9 inning pitcher ACE. Given the published salary numbers the METs had about 30 mil to spend after raises, they declined Putz so they have a net 5 more mil to spend. If they can move or wash out Castillo with a Phllips (2b) type deal, they get power and steals back and probably another 13 mil in payroll for Arroyo and a slight bump on Phllips deal. So 6 years 22 mil for Halliday, 13 mil for Arroyo, that’s 25 mil annualized, get Dye to play left for 6 mil… that’s 31 mil so far… and use the rest for pen, a right handed hitter (like Garko)at 1b or an incentive deal for Delagdo, a catcher and bench players on minor league deals. Salary will bump up to around 150 mil but the team will be better.

Santana, Halliday, Arroyo, Maine, Perez

Reyes, Phillips, Wright, Beltran, Delgado, Dye, Francour and Molina or another catcher.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:34:42 +0000

Can the Phillies realistickly sign both Lee and halliday and prevent then from becoming FA’s?? The answer is no. That is why there focusing on Figgins, Derosa and Beltre for 3b and there bullpen issues.

By: kevin

kevin — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:28:49 +0000

It’s not a matter of whether the Mets COULD get Roy Hallady, it’s a question of whether they SHOULD.

By: kevin

kevin — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:27:03 +0000

He didnt trade Halladay at all, that doesnt prove your point.

The Phillies have been and still are the favorites to land Halladay. They have what Toronto craved, Kyle Drabek. At the dealine the Phillies said no way, but last week Heyman said that with Lee in the house the Phillies will make another play for Halladay because in essence the groundwork is still there and Drabek will be included, along with the other players that were discuseed. Drabek is better than any top 3 Mets pitching prospects put together. Haap is better than Pelfrey who was also rumored to be in the deal.