Comments on: Is Delgado The Most Logical Choice At First Base?

By: Des

Des — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:31:31 +0000

Tommy,
I think you’re right on about Delgado and Murphy. As for Davis, he hit terribly at Brooklyn in his first year. So let’s give him some time and see what he does as he sees sliders and curves.

By: Des

Des — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:22:17 +0000

Murphy at 1B in 2010 will be a heckuva lot better defensively than Delgado. Carlos had his day and he likely will be another Moises Alou physically next year and with each succeeding year. He’ll likely get hurt again and it will impact his hitting. Carlos has a lot of moving parts to his swing and has shown he needs time to synchronize the dynamics.

By: Des

Des — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:35:55 +0000

“What Delgado also gives us is an experienced glove at 1B….”

Is there something in the drinking water on the other side of the Hudson River? Delgado at his best — and he is no longer at his best — was a very mediocre first baseman. He is now immobile, often doesn’t like to dive for hard hit balls, has poor footwork at times, and has below average hands.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:18:55 +0000

Disagree

SS Reyes
2b Hudson
3b Wright
CF Beltran
1b Dunn/Murphy
RF Francoeur
C Snyder
LF Pagan
SP Santana

SP Santana
SP Lackey
SP Marquis ( Garland, Pineiro, Sheets )
SP Pelfrey
SP Maine

By: Daniel

Daniel — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:10:50 +0000

I agree but if Dunn was an option I don’t think he would cost much via trade. Now hold I understand we have no RH bat to platoon with Murphy but as far as I can see Davis is a LH bat and he’s supposed to be up in the bigs by 2011 if not earlier. All I’m saying is that Dunn could be another possible option whether he plays left field or first base. I would take my chances with a swing and miss Dunn as long as I see him hit 40 plus home runs it wouldn’t bother me because every Mets knows that’s what we need in our lineup.Both he and Holliday we provide protection for Wright and so what if Dunn doesn’t hit for average.Delgado never hit for average but did we care no I don’t think we did because he hit 38 home runs and drove in 114 RBI’s in 06. So he would provide protection for everyone around him and I believe that would bring ever body back to form Reyes gets on base, Wright moves him over, Beltran drives one in and then Dunn clears the bases and with Dunn in the lineup every body in front and behind him would see better pitches.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:50:16 +0000

I would take Vlad for 2 yrs as opposed to Holliday for 7 yrs. But again, the mets need to sell tickets, the guy that can do it out of all those guys is Roy Halliday, that one i would wait out and actually see how that plays out, i want to see Toronto trade him to the Red Sox or yankees, i just don’t believe it, if the Yankees and red sox don’t trade for him then i think the mets have a shot at getting him. But if the Mets can’t trade castillo to get an OF and they can get a Halliday or lackey for a big pitcher, then I would sign Guerrero for a 1-2 year deal at 8 mil a year.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:10:50 +0000

Vladimir turns 35 in February, best case, lasts for 1 – 2 more years; Holliday turns 30 in January. But, my absolute fantasy for LF is to trade for Crawford. i doubt we’ll do that.
Anyway, i can feel it in my bones, the Burrell rumor is legit…makes warped Met sense. We trade Castillo for ‘somebody’.
Now i hope we sign Figgins…and import a lot of pitching.

By: sarge

sarge — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:47:15 +0000

Everyone is forgetting that part of the Mets moving on include moving Delgado out of the picture and letting Beltran, David and Jose become the clubhouse leader which is hard with Delgado imposing his will on the younger players. If for no other reason than this I would not bring Carlos back. Let Davis get his 400-500 at bats in AAA, maybe surround him with some decent players in Buffalo and then lets see what 2011 brings. Let Murphy play with a RH platoon player and please do not bring Carlos and his un-healthy body back. IMO

By: Anthony

Anthony — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:46:27 +0000

I would rather have Vlad Guerrero for 1 year then Holliday for 5-7 yrs at 18 mil per.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:28:22 +0000

Normally, i’d love to get Lackey. But i a smell a rat: why aren’t the Angels desperate to re-sign Lackey? The guy’s a horse, when healthy. He’s got to be hurt. Stay away.
Guillen’s a disaster; plenty of options better than him to trade for: Crawford, Granderson, Dunn, Pierre, Phillips.
And why can’t we get Holliday? Only takes money. The Red Sox will re-sign Bay. If the Yankees don’t pine for him, and i agree with Chicho, the Yanks probably go for pitching (good idea!!), we’ll vie with STL, Angels, Dodgers maybe, for Holliday? Who knows? He’s a Boras client. ‘Nuff said: $$$,$$$,$$$.
Holliday may not be the gold glove we need in LF but i am now convinced that he’s a stellar hitter.
Again, i prefer to sign FA’s, rather than trade for guys 30+ and regret the damn trade 2 – 3 years out, when our guy is aging and we have little depth at the top levels of our farm system. Sound familiar?!

By: Anthony

Anthony — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:36:52 +0000

Hey, I was thinking out of the box a little, if the Mets bring in a Lackey and Molina and bring back Delgado for 1 more year and they did this Guillen thing for Pagan, would they look to bring Chavez back as a 4th OF, there not getting Holliday or bay for LF, sorry to disappoint u

By: Bob L

Bob L — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:31:31 +0000

i think we’re getting crazy here. How do we have enough to get miguel cabrera, edwin jackson, and brandon phillips?
The Tigers may be shedding payroll, but they’ll want a ton for Cabrera AND a bunch + for Jackson in the deal. Did Jackson have his breakout year or his ‘career’ year? His #s before 2009 don’t cut it.
Cabrera’s a monster, but forget getting him + he’s got personal issues that’d be front page/back page in NY.
i’ll dream with Plan B: Marquis, Garland, Sheets, trade Castillo, sign Holliday; either sign Figgins or trade for Phillips.
THAT would be a bonanza under the tree….Cabrera too?! Fuhgeddaboudit.

By: vern

vern — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:39:42 +0000

My current thought on how the 2009 Met power outage is to be handled is to trade with a team that wants to financially downsize. The teams that best fit this description are the Tigers and Reds. With the Tigers, I am seeking Miguel Cabrera (at 1B) and Edwin Jackson. With the Reds, I am seeking Brandon Phillips (at 2B) and either Branson Arroyo or Aaron Harang.

1 SS Jose Reyes
2 CF Carlos Beltran
3 2B Brandon Phillips
4 1B Miguel Cabrera
5 3B David Wright
6 RF Jeff Francoeur
7-8 C Bengi Molina – one of many free agents
7-8 LF Angel Pagan

SP1 Johan Santana
SP2 Aaron Harang or Branson Arroyo
SP3 free agent (Harden, Sheets, Marquis)
SP4 Edwin Jackson
SP5 Oliver Perez

Gone from the current roster include Castillo, Pelfrey, Maine, Murphy, Chris Carter, Lance Broadway, F. Martinez, T. Redding, J. Niese, Ruben Tejada and possibly others (Ike Davis). The three way (Cub-Met)trade for Luis Castillo gets done with the Tigers as the third party. There would be cash coming to the Mets in dealing with Cabrera’s monster contract.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:50:32 +0000

i just checked Holliday vs. Dunn. Dunn hits more HRs (41/yr career avg vs 25/yr for Holliday), but it’s hit or miss for Dunn, with Holliday sporting a .318 career Avg vs .249 for Dunn who has averaged 101 RBI’s/yr in 6 full seasons vs 99/yr for Holliday in 6 years. Dunn just turned 30; Holliday turns 30 in January.
Holliday is clearly the better ‘hitter’. IF we can get Holliday, we should try. i agree with Chicho.
As far as Castillo stands, i hope we trade him. That Cubs/TX/Mets trifecta was bandied about recently. We were going to get Millwood in the deal. Didn’t happen.
We need solid ‘D’ up the middle…would help the pitching. Figgins would be great; Phillips as well. Figgins costs money; Phillips, players.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:34:55 +0000

BAYONNE, YOUR 90% CORRECT; WITH THINKING THERE’S ACTUALLY A LaROCHE OPTION IS WHERE YOU LOSE POINTS IN MY OPINION, IF YOU’VE FOLLOWED HIM AT ALL SINCE ATL DEALT HIM CRYING TO BUCS, YOU’D KNOW HE’S LIKELY WILLING TO “PAY THEM TO STAY”(EXAGERATED ONLY SLIGHTLY, LOL!. BESIDES ATL ISSUE WITH HIM SHOULD BE EVERYONE’S INASMUCH AS HE ADMITS BEING CONFOUNDED BY HIS IMPERCEPTIBLE PRODUCTION IN FIRST HALF & NEAR HOF PRODUCTION IN SECOND HALF.
I’VE STATED ALL ALONG DELGADO WAS THE OBVIOUS THIRD BEST CHOICE BEHIND ONLY #1, FIELDER & #2, GONZALEEZ, WHOM I NEVER BELEIVED WAS AVAILABLE DESPITE RUMORS APLENTY. FIELDER’S AVAILABILITY WAS SO MUCH MORE LOGICAL CONSIDERING THE BREWS WON’T BE ABLE TO LOCK UP A BORAS’ CLIENT LT IN AN AFFORDABLE RANGE FOR A SMALLISH MIDMARKET TEAM. THEY ARE FACED WITH AN ASTRONOMICAL ARBI AWARD LIKELY FOR ’11 THROUGH ’14 OR SO TO LOSE HIM AS F//A AFTER BORAS HAS BELED THEM DRY IN ARBITRATION. LOGICAL PROGRESSION.

By: steve

steve — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:48:53 +0000

Tommykitty i totally agree with you.I also believe the METS should go hard after Holliday.Even he might not hit 40 homers ,but he will hit 25-30.Just like Murphy he will also hit a ton of doubles.Plus the guy has speed and is a good baserunner.the future is looking better.So if you sign a guy like HOLLIDAY,you add him with Beltran,Wright,Reyes.You will 4/8 top players at those positions.Then you can add the young kids slowly at there own pace,no need to rush.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:39:54 +0000

i just checked Dunn out. He just turned 30, got a big body, but he can hit HRs for sure, averaging 41 w/101 RBI’s in his 6 full seasons in the Bigs.
i see him more as the LF and not 1B unless Murphy flubs his 2nd chance and we get no RH platoon going there.
Washington is in the NL East, although the perennial basement. What would they want for Dunn? Would they dare take another of our vaunted ‘can’t miss’ guys, like they took Milledge? i refer to Martinez. So Martinez, Pagan, Stokes for Dunn? Would the Nats do that? Would we? i would.
But, we begin to have a problem here. Some guys are calling for Brandon Phillips, as i do for Crawford, etc.; we can’t just shred our farm system and then complain in 3 years when all the guys we got in these trades are in their mid-30s and declining in prowess.
Which is why i like FA signings. Both Phillips and Dunn look real good, BTW, but c’mon, it’d be like eating too much candy!

By: Pete M

Pete M — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:47:15 +0000

What I am saying is that if you can get a decent young starting pitcher for Daniel Murphy you pull the trigger. IMO the odds of either Davis or Murphy batting .260 next year are 50-50. Davis has more power so no offense to you Mr. Murphy but bye bye Daniel. I like Ike.

By: Chicho

Chicho — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:49:47 +0000

Players don’t have to be a star their first year to be productive MLB players. I will give you two examples. Kevin Youkillis first year 279 BA 13 HR’s 72 RBI. now 305 BA 27 HR’s 97 RBI. Kendry Morales first year 234 BA 5 HR’s 22 RBI 57 games. Now 306 BA 34 HR’s 108 RBI. How do you know that Murphy can’t turn around and do what Morales and Youkilis did.

By: Chicho

Chicho — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:34:14 +0000

What about last September when the Mets were in the race he batted 313.