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By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:05:00 +0000

TOMMY, MASK IS RIGHT, GREEN IS #12 IN OUR TOP 10 OF FIXES NEEDED! U R ON RECORD SAYING,”For the funky delivery guy, I’d rather have Chad Bradford than Sean Green” WHILE U R RIGHT IN SOME INSTANCES SUCH AS GOPHERBALL TENDENCIES THE BRADFORD ‘06 STATS ARE NOT “HEAD & SHOULDER” BETTER THAN GREEN’S FROM ‘09.
CHAD06- 4-2,2.90 ERA 70G 62IP.254 AVG 1.36 WHIP
GREEN – 1-4 4.52 ERA 79G 70IP.240 AVG 1.44 WHIP

PERHAPS IS MUCH MORE “WHEN USED” THAN “HOW EFFECTIVE” LIMITED TO FACING THOSE LONE RHH IN MIDST OF LH POWER ie WERTH. GREEN IS AN AFFORDABLE TOOL JERRY NEEDS TO MASTER INSTEAD OF DISCARDING.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:54:14 +0000

PERHAPS THE KEY TO GREEN’S SUCCESS IS BEING USED PROPERLY, AS WITH ANY SPECIALIST THERE SHOULD BE A LARGE DELTA BET #G & IP. WHILE WITH SEATTLE HIS IP > G INSTEAD OF IP < G. JERRY WAS SLOW TO REALIZE THE VALUE OF STOKES' VELOCITY & MISUSED HIM DEBILITATING HIS CONTROL. STOKES SHOULD BE THE PORIMARY RH MID RELIEF WHILE GREEN THE RH SPECIALIST USED FOR THAT 1 BATTER(WERTH?) STUCK BET LH THREATS. '09 WAS GREENS'S HIGHWATER MARK IN #G/SEASON. INCREASING WARMUPS & DECREASING EFFECTIVNESS. GREEN AS A 'C RATING' IS A SERVICABLE, YET LIMITED ASSET IF USED SPARINGLY AS MOST SPECIALISTS. HE IS NOT A CROSSOVER TYPE & THAT'S HOW HE SHOULD BE USED. DIFFERENT TOOLS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. TO USE GREEN Vs LHH IS AKIN TO A HAMMER AS PRIMARY PLUMBING TOOL.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:26:01 +0000

PHIL & TOMMY, PLEASE REVIEW BRADFORD’S STATS AFTER HIS NYM STINT. OMAR JETTISONING CHAD WAS POSSIBLY ONE OF HIS MOST ASTUTE BP MOVES AS OBVIOUSLY THE DATE FOR BRADFORD’S EFECTIVNESS EXPIRED IN ‘06:
2007 78G 64.2 IP, 77 BH 3.34 ERA, 1,44 WHIP
2008 68G 59.1 IP 59 BH 2.12 ERA 1.25 WHIP
2009 20G 10.1 IP 22 BH 435 ERA, 2.32 WHIP

PERHAPS RETIREMENT ISN’T A KNEEJERK REACTION TO RECENT INJURY AS MUCH AS INEFFECTIVNESS & INEPTNESS? CHAD WAS A RECLAIMATION GAMBLE THAT PAID OFF IN ‘06. OBVIOUSLY OMAR KNEW WHEN TO FOLD ‘EM. RIGHT NOW IN HEAD-HEAD COMPARISON BASED ON AGE/EFFECTIVNESS GREEN IS THE BETTER “FUNKY” OPTION THAN CHAD “THE CHUD” BRADFORD!

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:49:57 +0000

TOMMY, DO U EVER CHECK ON CURRENT EFFECTIVNESS? OR DO U SOLELY RELY ON YOUR RECOLLECTION OF PERFORMANCE. THEONE THING WORSE THAN GREEN’S MISERABLE 1.4 WHIP FOR A MID-RELIEVER WOULD HAVE TO BE BRADFORD’S 2.32 FROM LAST YR. IMAGINE A MID RELIEVER ALLOWING MORE THAN 2 BASERUNNERS PER INNING? THAT’S MISERY & AS BAD AS IT GETS & STILL RECEIVING PAYCHECKS. WILL U JUST ACCEPT MIDRELIEVERS ARE AS INCONSISTANT AS THE WEATHER & GOING BACK 2 YRS ON ANYONE NOT NAMED RIVERA IN ANY PEN IS A FOOL’S ERRAND. THAT’S WHAT MAKES RIVERA SO REMARKABLY SPECIAL.

By: russell Zanca

russell Zanca — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:24:09 +0000

Good idea for a topic, Phil.

Personally, Green was just one part of the 2009 Mets who is forgettable. He strikes me as a BP mediocrity, but clearly he’s not a huge problem. Heck, maybe he deserves another shot, but if the Mets find him useful as part of a trade, I won’t lose much sleep over him.

Overall grade for S. Green–C/C-

By: Tommy2cat

Tommy2cat — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:27:27 +0000

If Bradford isn’t available nor a reasonable facsimile thereof, I’d rather allow our AAA prospects compete for Green’s spot than go through another season of his unsteady mediocrity. There’s more than a few candidates, such as Tobi Stoner, Lance Broadway, or someone more tested and reliable such as Nelson Figueroa – at least he has a pair.

By: Phil Hoops

Phil Hoops — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:13:37 +0000

I agree with you in the sense that I’d much rather have Chad Bradford on the team and was one of the most disappointed people when I found out that Omar elected to not to bring him back.

However, as MLB Trade Rumors pointed out in September Bradford has been injured much of this season and is close to retiring. Link: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/09/chad-bradford-leaning-toward-retirement.html

Also keep in mind Bradford would most likely command a much higher salary then Green and, while not ideal, with so many holes to fill it’s hard to imagine the team is going to put a lot of resources into the bullpen outside of a setup man.

By: Tommy2cat

Tommy2cat — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:08:45 +0000

For the funky delivery guy, I’d rather have Chad Bradford than Sean Green.

Green was prone to unusual lapses in control last year that resulted in wild pitches and walks. He also threw pitches up in the zone and was damaged significantly as a consequence. By contrast, ChadBrad always appeared to bear down when it mattered most – instances where Sean Green came up too short too often.

In conclusion, I think Sean Green has talent, but I question whether he has the killer instinct necessary to raise his level of performance in must-win situations. Apart from talent, we need winning pitchers and winning ballplayers. I do not consider Sean Green to fit that mold.

As far as his new delivery is concerned… “the submarine”… well, I’ve developed a new delivery of my own…which concludes with my foot kicking his ass out the door.

By: Phil Hoops

Phil Hoops — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:05:36 +0000

Exactly, and who knows with the new delivery maybe he can be even better.