Comments on: Breaking Down The Mets Bullpen: J.J. Putz

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:25:50 +0000

GARY, FYI MARQUIS IS A F/A I BELIEVE CAN BE HAD FOR 4/60M IF WE CAN INK LACKEY FOR 4/70M.
I CERTAINLY DO RECALL VAIL & IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY DIDN’T HE ESTABLISH A RECORD FOR CONSEC GAMES WITH A HR FOR A ROOK? OR SOME SUCH NONSENSE? THE POSTER BOY FOR DISAPPOINTMENT/LETDOWN.

CASTILLO BATTING #2 IS STANDARD IN “THE BOOK”; BUT DOES THE BOOK ACCOUNT FOR HAVING THE GAME’S PREMIER BASESTEALER BATTING #1. WHY EWASTE AN OUT ADVANCING REYES WHEN HE CAN DO IT ON HIS OWN. ONE OF THE PERKS REYES’ BEING ON BASE BRINGS IS DISRUPTION TO PITCHER’S GAMEPLAN THROWING MORE FB EVEN IF BREAKER IS HIS BEST OFFERRING. I DON’T BELIEVE CASTILLO IS THE BEST OPTION FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FB, BELTRAN IS. CARLOS IS DEFINITLY BETTER SUUITED TO HANDLING HARD ONES OVER WAVEY ONES. IF REYES BATTING LEADOFF DOESN’Y AFFORD U THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET YR OFFENSE STARTED SOONER THEN WHY NOT? I’D BAT DELTRAN #2 & WRIGHT 3, I BELIEVE WRIGHT HAS RARELY HAD AS MUCH PROTECTION BEHIND HIM AS FIELDER PROVIDES & WILL REDUCE HIS Ks BY GETTING BETTER PITCHES TO HIT. IT COULD TRULY BE AWESOME, IF NOT UNIQUE. CASTILLO’S OBP WORKS AT #8 SO P CAN MOVE HIM OVER WITH AN OUT RATHER THAN WASTING ONE MOVING REYES UNNECESSARILY. I DON’T THINK CARDS WASTED TOO MANY OUTS ADVANCING BROCK OR OAKLAND & RICKEY. WHY US? THERE IS SMALL BALL & TINY BALL. REYES ISN’T JUST A GOOD BASESTEALER HE’S A PREMIERE ONE, TOP 1 THROUGH 3 IN MLB. STL DIDN’T BUNT COLEMAN OVER MUCH EITHER. OUTS ARE PRECOUS THER’S ONLY 27. IN ‘86 BACKMAN RARELY BUNTED EITHER MOOK OR DIRT. HIT & RUN TYPICALLY. MORE FIRST & THIRDS LED TO BIG INNINGS. NO ONE PITCHED AROUND MEX EVEN WITH A VACANT BASE & HAVING SEEN ALL 3 IN THEIR PRIMES, REYES IS SUPERIOR TO BOTH WILSON & DYKSTRA RE. BASESTEALING. THINK ABOUT IT. I ADMIT IT’S UNCONVENTIONAL.
WITH HOLLIDAY A NYY INTERST AS WELL AS A BORAS CLIENT, I’D LIKE TO SEE US KICK SERIOUS TIRES ON BAY ESP SINCE BOSTON ACQUIRED HERMEDA MAKING RETENTION LESS DO OR DIE FOR THEM. BSIDES I THINK BAY MAT BE BETTER DEFENSIVLY BY SLIGHT MARGIN. HOLLIDAY STRUGGLED MORE IN COL. LF SIMILAR TO CITI SIZED.

By: Garys

Garys — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:06:46 +0000

This trade that 62 is proposing is so good for the Brewers it must scare the shit out of Omar. Murphy can hit 40 doubles, drive in 80 runs,and play above average defense at 1B. Maine and Pelfrey can win 15 each. If the trade is so good, why make it at all? Because the Mets team offensive dynamic is dependent on a reliable and feared power hitter batting 4th. It makes every player on either side of a good #4 potentially better.

Want Wright to drive in 100 runs batting 3rd, you need Fielder or the like. You want Beltran to drive in 100 runs from #5, you need Fielder or the like, and then a Francoeur, Bay or Holliday behind Beltran.

By: Danny Krieger

Danny Krieger — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:38:58 +0000

Before I comment again, I just want to make sure I understand.
You are offering Pelfrey, Maine and Murphy for Fielder?

If so, I want to think about it.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:35:55 +0000

DANNY, YOUR POST CITING YOUR PERCEPTION THAT BORAS NOT AS BIG AN ENTITY DURING ARBITRATION HAS YET TO HIT. MY RESPONSE IS 1 NAME, 2 WORDS. R Y A N H O W A R D! I REST MY CASE, EVEN # 17-18M BREWS DROWN & WHERE IS THE CLUB ASSUMING THAT IY DEAL FACING ANOTHER ARBI HEARING? ESP ONE OFFERRING MORE THAN MAINE,PELFREY,MURPHY? THIS YR DOUG MELVIN STATED HIS TARGET IS ADDING 2 ‘ESTABLISHED’ SP & ONE OF HIS MOST VALUABLE TRADING CHIPS IN THAT REGARD WAS JJ HARDY. WELL, HE DEALT HARDY & REC’D ZERO PITCHING. BTW, THE ONLY TEAMS I’VE READ ABOUT WITH EXP SP TO DEAL ARE ATL & TOR. EACH OF ATL SP MAKE MORE THAN FIELDER THIS YR. HALLADAY ISN’T LIKELY TO WAIVE FOR MILWALKEE’S SAUSAGE. DANNY, SOMETIMES BAD BREATH IS ADVANTAGEOUS OVER NO BREATH!

By: Danny Krieger

Danny Krieger — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:15:29 +0000

Why wouldn’t the Brewers keep him for this year and trade him for 2011? or at midseason this year. And in arbitration Boras doesn’t have as much negotiating power. It could be settled by the independent arbitrator for $17 or $18 million easily.

Tell me what exactly are you willing to give up for Fielder and I can comment better. Is it Maine and Pelfrey, or one of them? And who else.

By: Ace

Ace — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:13:05 +0000

I saw that on MLB. Was nice to Nolan Ryan when he was young again. He was a real fireballer!

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:08:34 +0000

DANNY, IT’S NOT THE 10.5M FOR ‘10; BUT THE 30M FOR ‘10 & ‘11. IT’S A NO BRAINER THAT FIELDER IS ASSURED TO GET 20M+ IN ARBITRATION REPRESENTED BY BORAS, UNLESS HE’S DEAD BY END OF SEASON. REP’ BY BORAS THAT’S NOT A SLAM DUNK EVEN IF HE’S DOA. RE. YOUR ARGUMENT INSISTING MAINE & PELFREY ARE BELOW AVERAGE SP. I MUST ASK, WHERE? ON A CONTENDER, POSSIBLY; BUT IN THIS LAST WS I BELIEVE BOTH MANAGERS MAY HAVE BEEN TEMTED TO SELL THEIR LEFT NUT FOR EITHER AS A #4 OPTION. PERHAPS EVEN BOTH RIGHT & LEFT. BLANTON? MITRE? BETTER?
CONSIDER THIS OVER PAST 2 HEALTHY SEASONS MAINE’S RECORD OF 25-18 ISN’T HORRIBLE, NEITHER IS FACT HE ACTUALLY WAS THE WP IN 4% OF HIS ‘09 GS! WHAT AVERAGES ARE U LOOKING AT? LAST TIME MILWALKEE WAS CONSIDERED AN ACTUAL CONTENDER BOTH MOLITOR & YOUNT WERE SUITING UP! YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE YOUR AVERAGES FROM THE ROTATIONS TOILING IN MILW, BALT, TX, KC, COL, STL, CLE AS MOST GERMANE AS THOSE ARE HE TEAMS FLANKING BREWS’ 80M PAYROLL. DUAL ACES ARE ONLY CONSIDERED MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN NY & BOS THE BASEBALL MECCAS. CONSIDER THERE WERE ONLY 3 ABOVE AVG SP APPEARING IN THIS PAST WS. CC,AJ,LEE AM I WRONG? COME BACK, I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE WITH BAITED BREATH,LMAO!

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:41:01 +0000

DANIEL, DID U EVER STOP TO THINK YOUR NY ATTITUDE & EVALUATION CRITERIA IS NOT RELEVENT TO TEAMS LIKE MILWALKEE? WHY IS IT THAT 21 OF THE 30 TEAMS CHOOSE TO KEEP PAYROLLS BELOW 100M? THERE IS CERTAINLY A COST EFFETIVNESS ISSUE THAT NYers RARELY CONSIDER. FIELDER IS A 30M INVESTMENT OVER NEXT 2Y, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE BREWS WILL MAKE THAT INVESTMENT CHOICE? WHO OUT THERE HAS ANY SPing TO TRADE & WON’T BALK AT 2Y/30M FOR A 1B? I BELIEVE AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT BOTH MAINE & PELFREY CAN BECOME 15W PITCHERS REUNITED WITH PETERSON. I’LL ADMIT IT’S CERTAINLY ARGUABLE. POTENTIAL CERTAINLY IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION. THESE 2 PITCHER’S POTENTIAL IS DEFINITELY LESS QUESTIONABLE THAN THAT OF AN UNVETTED PROSPECT. THERE ARE VERY,VERY FEW FRANCHISES WILLING TO MAKE THAT SIZED(30M/2Y) FINANCIAL COMMITMENT, FOR VERY GOOD REASONS. THE D-BACKS ATTEMPTED BIG SPEND POLICIES ALL THE WAY TO THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY. DID THE BRAVES PASS ON REUPPING ANY OF THEIR BIG 3 BECAUSE THEY COULD NO LONGER PITCH? OAKLAND? SAME QUESTION. ROI IS VERY IMPORTANT TO MID-MKT BASEBALL CLUBS. MILWALKEE GAMBLED ON SABATHIA & LOST CONSIDERABLY. MOST LIKELY THE GOOD FEELINGS OF A FAILED POSTSEASON BERTH HAVE ALREADY FADED FROM THE TURNSTILES. HOW POPULAR IS THAT “M” LOGO? APPEARED IN ANY MOVIES OR NON-SPORTS MAGAZINES? THAT’S WHAT PAYS THE FREIGHT, BRAND MARKETING! A 30M INVESTMENT IN ‘M’BRAND WILL NEVER PAY LIKE IT WOULD IN AN EAST COAST BASEBALL MECCA LIKE NYC.

By: Garys

Garys — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:49 +0000

62, I also have a VHS with the 69 worked series but MLB broadcast the entire games, and I watched this in conjunction with this years WS. The 69 Mets had a combination of gut and determination to go with thier great pitching. Baltimore had great pitching also.
Anyway, your Prince scenario makes some sense as long as he can hit 35 HRs in Citifield. I’m not as concerned about Delgado’s bat speed as you are. Last time he played regularly he seems fine.

The key signing is Lackey. That makes everything else possible. IMHO

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:36:14 +0000

GARY, I WAS GIFTED THE ‘69 SERIES ON VHS 12 YRS AGO & I AGREE. REMEMBER CONTEXTUALLY, THE ‘69 SQUAD WAS THE FIRST 5 MAN ROTATION INSTEAD OF 4, MEANING MOST LIKELY SEAVER,KOOSMAN,McANDREW,GENTRY ALL DID THEIR MILB CAREERS AS PARTS OF 4 MAN SQUADS DICTATING MANY MORE IP IN MINORS UNLIKE TODAY WHERE ANTIQUE CRYSTAL ISN’T CONSIDERED AS FRAGILE AS SPing ARMS.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH DELGADO WOULD BE HIS BATSPEED MORE THAN HIS HIP. HE’S A GOOD HEALTH RECORD IF U DISCOUNT INJ CAUSED BY HBP. HIS LOWER BDY(TRUNK) HAS BEEN A CONSTANT ASSET, BROKEN HANDS, WRIST IDSSUES HIS ACHILLES(PUN INTENDED). HIS MAINTAING THAT BAT SPEED IS TANTAMOUNT TO HIS SUCCESSFUL RETURN, IF THERE’S ANY DOUBT, FIELDER IS THE #1 MUST HAVE FOR THIS TEAM, EVEN BEFORE A #2SP. FIELDER WOYULD BE A 30M 2Y INVESTMENT MILWALKEE CAN LITTLE AFFORD. HOW MANY TEAMS, OUT THERE CAN MEET THE CRIOTERIA OF 1) DEALING EXPERIENCED,AFFORDABLE SPing & 2) AFFORD TO TAKE ON 2Y/30M FOR 1B? FOR THAT SIZED SPENDING U NEED ONLY LOOK AT THE TOP 10 PAYROLL CLUBS: NYY,NYM,CHC,DET,PHL,BOS,LAA,LAD
I BELIEVE WE’RE THE ONLY YEA TO BOTH QUESTIONS! WE JUST LOCKED PELFREY IN FOR 500K BARELY OVER MINIMUM, VERY AFFORDABLE & DEALABLE PELFREY HAS 1.12 YRS SVC TIME, MAINE 3.088 NEEDING 5 FOR F/ACY. MAINE LIKELY TENDERED 3M MADE 2.6 IN ‘09. BOTH ARGUABLY POTENTIAL 15W CAPABLE ONCE REUNITED WITH PETERSON. 2 ME THIS IS A MUST FOR BOTH CLUBS & IF MURPH INCLUDED A GOOD DEAL FOR BREWS, BETTER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.