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	<title>Comments on: Breaking Down The Mets Bullpen: J.J. Putz</title>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GARY, FYI MARQUIS IS A F/A I BELIEVE CAN BE HAD FOR 4/60M IF WE CAN INK LACKEY FOR 4/70M.
I CERTAINLY DO RECALL VAIL &amp; IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY DIDN&#039;T HE ESTABLISH A RECORD FOR CONSEC GAMES WITH A HR FOR A ROOK? OR SOME SUCH NONSENSE? THE POSTER BOY FOR DISAPPOINTMENT/LETDOWN.

CASTILLO BATTING #2 IS STANDARD IN &quot;THE BOOK&quot;; BUT DOES THE BOOK ACCOUNT FOR HAVING THE GAME&#039;S PREMIER BASESTEALER BATTING #1. WHY EWASTE AN OUT ADVANCING REYES WHEN HE CAN DO IT ON HIS OWN. ONE OF THE PERKS REYES&#039; BEING ON BASE BRINGS IS DISRUPTION TO PITCHER&#039;S GAMEPLAN THROWING MORE FB EVEN IF BREAKER IS HIS BEST OFFERRING. I DON&#039;T BELIEVE CASTILLO IS THE BEST OPTION FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FB, BELTRAN IS. CARLOS IS DEFINITLY BETTER SUUITED TO HANDLING HARD ONES OVER WAVEY ONES. IF REYES BATTING LEADOFF DOESN&#039;Y AFFORD U THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET YR OFFENSE STARTED SOONER THEN WHY NOT? I&#039;D BAT DELTRAN #2 &amp; WRIGHT 3, I BELIEVE WRIGHT HAS RARELY HAD AS MUCH PROTECTION BEHIND HIM AS FIELDER PROVIDES &amp; WILL REDUCE HIS Ks BY GETTING BETTER PITCHES TO HIT. IT COULD TRULY BE AWESOME, IF NOT UNIQUE. CASTILLO&#039;S OBP WORKS AT #8 SO P CAN MOVE HIM OVER WITH AN OUT RATHER THAN WASTING ONE MOVING REYES UNNECESSARILY. I DON&#039;T THINK CARDS WASTED TOO MANY OUTS ADVANCING BROCK OR OAKLAND &amp; RICKEY. WHY US? THERE IS SMALL BALL &amp; TINY BALL. REYES ISN&#039;T JUST A GOOD BASESTEALER HE&#039;S A PREMIERE ONE, TOP 1 THROUGH 3 IN MLB. STL DIDN&#039;T BUNT COLEMAN OVER MUCH EITHER. OUTS ARE PRECOUS THER&#039;S ONLY 27. IN &#039;86 BACKMAN RARELY BUNTED EITHER MOOK OR DIRT. HIT &amp; RUN TYPICALLY. MORE FIRST &amp; THIRDS LED TO BIG INNINGS. NO ONE PITCHED AROUND MEX EVEN WITH A VACANT BASE &amp; HAVING SEEN ALL 3 IN THEIR PRIMES, REYES IS SUPERIOR TO BOTH WILSON &amp; DYKSTRA RE. BASESTEALING. THINK ABOUT IT. I ADMIT IT&#039;S UNCONVENTIONAL.
WITH HOLLIDAY A NYY INTERST AS WELL AS A BORAS CLIENT, I&#039;D LIKE TO SEE US KICK SERIOUS TIRES ON BAY ESP SINCE BOSTON ACQUIRED HERMEDA MAKING RETENTION LESS DO OR DIE FOR THEM. BSIDES I THINK BAY MAT BE BETTER DEFENSIVLY BY SLIGHT MARGIN. HOLLIDAY STRUGGLED MORE IN COL. LF SIMILAR TO CITI SIZED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GARY, FYI MARQUIS IS A F/A I BELIEVE CAN BE HAD FOR 4/60M IF WE CAN INK LACKEY FOR 4/70M.<br />
I CERTAINLY DO RECALL VAIL &amp; IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY DIDN&#8217;T HE ESTABLISH A RECORD FOR CONSEC GAMES WITH A HR FOR A ROOK? OR SOME SUCH NONSENSE? THE POSTER BOY FOR DISAPPOINTMENT/LETDOWN.</p>
<p>CASTILLO BATTING #2 IS STANDARD IN &#8220;THE BOOK&#8221;; BUT DOES THE BOOK ACCOUNT FOR HAVING THE GAME&#8217;S PREMIER BASESTEALER BATTING #1. WHY EWASTE AN OUT ADVANCING REYES WHEN HE CAN DO IT ON HIS OWN. ONE OF THE PERKS REYES&#8217; BEING ON BASE BRINGS IS DISRUPTION TO PITCHER&#8217;S GAMEPLAN THROWING MORE FB EVEN IF BREAKER IS HIS BEST OFFERRING. I DON&#8217;T BELIEVE CASTILLO IS THE BEST OPTION FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FB, BELTRAN IS. CARLOS IS DEFINITLY BETTER SUUITED TO HANDLING HARD ONES OVER WAVEY ONES. IF REYES BATTING LEADOFF DOESN&#8217;Y AFFORD U THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET YR OFFENSE STARTED SOONER THEN WHY NOT? I&#8217;D BAT DELTRAN #2 &amp; WRIGHT 3, I BELIEVE WRIGHT HAS RARELY HAD AS MUCH PROTECTION BEHIND HIM AS FIELDER PROVIDES &amp; WILL REDUCE HIS Ks BY GETTING BETTER PITCHES TO HIT. IT COULD TRULY BE AWESOME, IF NOT UNIQUE. CASTILLO&#8217;S OBP WORKS AT #8 SO P CAN MOVE HIM OVER WITH AN OUT RATHER THAN WASTING ONE MOVING REYES UNNECESSARILY. I DON&#8217;T THINK CARDS WASTED TOO MANY OUTS ADVANCING BROCK OR OAKLAND &amp; RICKEY. WHY US? THERE IS SMALL BALL &amp; TINY BALL. REYES ISN&#8217;T JUST A GOOD BASESTEALER HE&#8217;S A PREMIERE ONE, TOP 1 THROUGH 3 IN MLB. STL DIDN&#8217;T BUNT COLEMAN OVER MUCH EITHER. OUTS ARE PRECOUS THER&#8217;S ONLY 27. IN &#8217;86 BACKMAN RARELY BUNTED EITHER MOOK OR DIRT. HIT &amp; RUN TYPICALLY. MORE FIRST &amp; THIRDS LED TO BIG INNINGS. NO ONE PITCHED AROUND MEX EVEN WITH A VACANT BASE &amp; HAVING SEEN ALL 3 IN THEIR PRIMES, REYES IS SUPERIOR TO BOTH WILSON &amp; DYKSTRA RE. BASESTEALING. THINK ABOUT IT. I ADMIT IT&#8217;S UNCONVENTIONAL.<br />
WITH HOLLIDAY A NYY INTERST AS WELL AS A BORAS CLIENT, I&#8217;D LIKE TO SEE US KICK SERIOUS TIRES ON BAY ESP SINCE BOSTON ACQUIRED HERMEDA MAKING RETENTION LESS DO OR DIE FOR THEM. BSIDES I THINK BAY MAT BE BETTER DEFENSIVLY BY SLIGHT MARGIN. HOLLIDAY STRUGGLED MORE IN COL. LF SIMILAR TO CITI SIZED.</p>
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		<title>By: Garys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This trade that 62 is proposing is so good for the Brewers it must scare the shit out of Omar.  Murphy can hit 40 doubles, drive in 80 runs,and play above average defense at 1B.  Maine and Pelfrey can win 15 each.  If the trade is so good, why make it at all?  Because the Mets team offensive dynamic is dependent on a reliable and feared power hitter batting 4th.  It makes every player on either side of a good #4 potentially better.

Want Wright to drive in 100 runs batting 3rd, you need Fielder or the like.  You want Beltran to drive in 100 runs from #5, you need Fielder or the like, and then a Francoeur, Bay or Holliday behind Beltran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This trade that 62 is proposing is so good for the Brewers it must scare the shit out of Omar.  Murphy can hit 40 doubles, drive in 80 runs,and play above average defense at 1B.  Maine and Pelfrey can win 15 each.  If the trade is so good, why make it at all?  Because the Mets team offensive dynamic is dependent on a reliable and feared power hitter batting 4th.  It makes every player on either side of a good #4 potentially better.</p>
<p>Want Wright to drive in 100 runs batting 3rd, you need Fielder or the like.  You want Beltran to drive in 100 runs from #5, you need Fielder or the like, and then a Francoeur, Bay or Holliday behind Beltran.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Krieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I comment again, I just want to make sure I understand.
You are offering Pelfrey, Maine and Murphy for Fielder?

If so, I want to think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I comment again, I just want to make sure I understand.<br />
You are offering Pelfrey, Maine and Murphy for Fielder?</p>
<p>If so, I want to think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DANNY, YOUR POST CITING YOUR PERCEPTION THAT BORAS NOT AS BIG AN ENTITY DURING ARBITRATION HAS YET TO HIT. MY RESPONSE IS 1 NAME, 2 WORDS. R Y A N  H O W A R D! I REST MY CASE, EVEN # 17-18M BREWS DROWN &amp; WHERE IS THE CLUB ASSUMING THAT IY DEAL FACING ANOTHER ARBI HEARING? ESP ONE OFFERRING MORE THAN MAINE,PELFREY,MURPHY? THIS YR DOUG MELVIN STATED HIS TARGET IS ADDING 2 &#039;ESTABLISHED&#039; SP &amp; ONE OF HIS MOST VALUABLE TRADING CHIPS IN THAT REGARD WAS JJ HARDY. WELL, HE DEALT HARDY &amp; REC&#039;D ZERO PITCHING. BTW, THE ONLY TEAMS I&#039;VE READ ABOUT WITH EXP SP TO DEAL ARE ATL &amp; TOR. EACH OF ATL SP MAKE MORE THAN FIELDER THIS YR. HALLADAY ISN&#039;T LIKELY TO WAIVE FOR MILWALKEE&#039;S SAUSAGE. DANNY, SOMETIMES BAD BREATH IS ADVANTAGEOUS OVER NO BREATH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DANNY, YOUR POST CITING YOUR PERCEPTION THAT BORAS NOT AS BIG AN ENTITY DURING ARBITRATION HAS YET TO HIT. MY RESPONSE IS 1 NAME, 2 WORDS. R Y A N  H O W A R D! I REST MY CASE, EVEN # 17-18M BREWS DROWN &amp; WHERE IS THE CLUB ASSUMING THAT IY DEAL FACING ANOTHER ARBI HEARING? ESP ONE OFFERRING MORE THAN MAINE,PELFREY,MURPHY? THIS YR DOUG MELVIN STATED HIS TARGET IS ADDING 2 &#8216;ESTABLISHED&#8217; SP &amp; ONE OF HIS MOST VALUABLE TRADING CHIPS IN THAT REGARD WAS JJ HARDY. WELL, HE DEALT HARDY &amp; REC&#8217;D ZERO PITCHING. BTW, THE ONLY TEAMS I&#8217;VE READ ABOUT WITH EXP SP TO DEAL ARE ATL &amp; TOR. EACH OF ATL SP MAKE MORE THAN FIELDER THIS YR. HALLADAY ISN&#8217;T LIKELY TO WAIVE FOR MILWALKEE&#8217;S SAUSAGE. DANNY, SOMETIMES BAD BREATH IS ADVANTAGEOUS OVER NO BREATH!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Krieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn&#039;t the Brewers keep him for this year and trade him for 2011?  or at midseason this year.  And in arbitration Boras doesn&#039;t have as much negotiating power.  It could be settled by the independent arbitrator for $17 or $18 million easily.

Tell me what exactly are you willing to give up for Fielder and I can comment better.  Is it Maine and Pelfrey, or one of them?  And who else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t the Brewers keep him for this year and trade him for 2011?  or at midseason this year.  And in arbitration Boras doesn&#8217;t have as much negotiating power.  It could be settled by the independent arbitrator for $17 or $18 million easily.</p>
<p>Tell me what exactly are you willing to give up for Fielder and I can comment better.  Is it Maine and Pelfrey, or one of them?  And who else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that on MLB. Was nice to Nolan Ryan when he was young again. He was a real fireballer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that on MLB. Was nice to Nolan Ryan when he was young again. He was a real fireballer!</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DANNY, IT&#039;S NOT THE 10.5M FOR &#039;10; BUT THE 30M FOR &#039;10 &amp; &#039;11. IT&#039;S A NO BRAINER THAT FIELDER IS ASSURED TO GET 20M+ IN ARBITRATION REPRESENTED BY BORAS, UNLESS HE&#039;S DEAD BY END OF SEASON. REP&#039; BY BORAS THAT&#039;S NOT A SLAM DUNK EVEN IF HE&#039;S DOA. RE. YOUR ARGUMENT INSISTING MAINE &amp; PELFREY ARE BELOW AVERAGE SP. I MUST ASK, WHERE? ON A CONTENDER, POSSIBLY; BUT IN THIS LAST WS I BELIEVE BOTH MANAGERS MAY HAVE BEEN TEMTED TO SELL THEIR LEFT NUT FOR EITHER AS A #4 OPTION. PERHAPS EVEN BOTH RIGHT &amp; LEFT. BLANTON? MITRE? BETTER?
CONSIDER THIS OVER PAST 2 HEALTHY SEASONS MAINE&#039;S RECORD OF 25-18 ISN&#039;T HORRIBLE, NEITHER IS FACT HE ACTUALLY WAS THE WP IN 4% OF HIS &#039;09 GS! WHAT AVERAGES ARE U LOOKING AT? LAST TIME MILWALKEE WAS CONSIDERED AN ACTUAL CONTENDER BOTH MOLITOR &amp; YOUNT WERE SUITING UP! YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE YOUR AVERAGES FROM THE ROTATIONS TOILING IN MILW, BALT, TX, KC, COL, STL, CLE AS MOST GERMANE AS THOSE ARE HE TEAMS FLANKING BREWS&#039; 80M PAYROLL. DUAL ACES ARE ONLY CONSIDERED MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN NY &amp; BOS THE BASEBALL MECCAS. CONSIDER THERE WERE ONLY 3 ABOVE AVG SP APPEARING IN THIS PAST WS. CC,AJ,LEE AM I WRONG? COME BACK, I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE WITH BAITED BREATH,LMAO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DANNY, IT&#8217;S NOT THE 10.5M FOR &#8217;10; BUT THE 30M FOR &#8217;10 &amp; &#8217;11. IT&#8217;S A NO BRAINER THAT FIELDER IS ASSURED TO GET 20M+ IN ARBITRATION REPRESENTED BY BORAS, UNLESS HE&#8217;S DEAD BY END OF SEASON. REP&#8217; BY BORAS THAT&#8217;S NOT A SLAM DUNK EVEN IF HE&#8217;S DOA. RE. YOUR ARGUMENT INSISTING MAINE &amp; PELFREY ARE BELOW AVERAGE SP. I MUST ASK, WHERE? ON A CONTENDER, POSSIBLY; BUT IN THIS LAST WS I BELIEVE BOTH MANAGERS MAY HAVE BEEN TEMTED TO SELL THEIR LEFT NUT FOR EITHER AS A #4 OPTION. PERHAPS EVEN BOTH RIGHT &amp; LEFT. BLANTON? MITRE? BETTER?<br />
CONSIDER THIS OVER PAST 2 HEALTHY SEASONS MAINE&#8217;S RECORD OF 25-18 ISN&#8217;T HORRIBLE, NEITHER IS FACT HE ACTUALLY WAS THE WP IN 4% OF HIS &#8217;09 GS! WHAT AVERAGES ARE U LOOKING AT? LAST TIME MILWALKEE WAS CONSIDERED AN ACTUAL CONTENDER BOTH MOLITOR &amp; YOUNT WERE SUITING UP! YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE YOUR AVERAGES FROM THE ROTATIONS TOILING IN MILW, BALT, TX, KC, COL, STL, CLE AS MOST GERMANE AS THOSE ARE HE TEAMS FLANKING BREWS&#8217; 80M PAYROLL. DUAL ACES ARE ONLY CONSIDERED MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN NY &amp; BOS THE BASEBALL MECCAS. CONSIDER THERE WERE ONLY 3 ABOVE AVG SP APPEARING IN THIS PAST WS. CC,AJ,LEE AM I WRONG? COME BACK, I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE WITH BAITED BREATH,LMAO!</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DANIEL, DID U EVER STOP TO THINK YOUR NY ATTITUDE &amp; EVALUATION CRITERIA IS NOT RELEVENT TO TEAMS LIKE MILWALKEE? WHY IS IT THAT 21 OF THE 30 TEAMS CHOOSE TO KEEP PAYROLLS BELOW 100M? THERE IS CERTAINLY A COST EFFETIVNESS ISSUE THAT NYers RARELY CONSIDER. FIELDER IS A 30M INVESTMENT OVER NEXT 2Y, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE BREWS WILL MAKE THAT INVESTMENT CHOICE? WHO OUT THERE HAS ANY SPing TO TRADE &amp; WON&#039;T BALK AT 2Y/30M FOR A 1B? I BELIEVE AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT BOTH MAINE &amp; PELFREY CAN BECOME 15W PITCHERS REUNITED WITH PETERSON. I&#039;LL ADMIT IT&#039;S CERTAINLY ARGUABLE. POTENTIAL CERTAINLY IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION. THESE 2 PITCHER&#039;S POTENTIAL IS DEFINITELY LESS QUESTIONABLE THAN THAT OF AN UNVETTED PROSPECT. THERE ARE VERY,VERY FEW FRANCHISES WILLING TO MAKE THAT SIZED(30M/2Y) FINANCIAL COMMITMENT, FOR VERY GOOD REASONS. THE D-BACKS ATTEMPTED BIG SPEND POLICIES ALL THE WAY TO THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY. DID THE BRAVES PASS ON REUPPING ANY OF THEIR BIG 3 BECAUSE THEY COULD NO LONGER PITCH? OAKLAND? SAME QUESTION. ROI IS VERY IMPORTANT TO MID-MKT BASEBALL CLUBS. MILWALKEE GAMBLED ON SABATHIA &amp; LOST CONSIDERABLY.  MOST LIKELY THE GOOD FEELINGS OF A FAILED POSTSEASON BERTH HAVE ALREADY FADED FROM THE TURNSTILES. HOW POPULAR IS THAT &quot;M&quot; LOGO? APPEARED IN ANY MOVIES OR NON-SPORTS MAGAZINES? THAT&#039;S WHAT PAYS THE FREIGHT, BRAND MARKETING! A 30M INVESTMENT IN &#039;M&#039;BRAND WILL NEVER PAY LIKE IT WOULD IN AN EAST COAST BASEBALL MECCA LIKE NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DANIEL, DID U EVER STOP TO THINK YOUR NY ATTITUDE &amp; EVALUATION CRITERIA IS NOT RELEVENT TO TEAMS LIKE MILWALKEE? WHY IS IT THAT 21 OF THE 30 TEAMS CHOOSE TO KEEP PAYROLLS BELOW 100M? THERE IS CERTAINLY A COST EFFETIVNESS ISSUE THAT NYers RARELY CONSIDER. FIELDER IS A 30M INVESTMENT OVER NEXT 2Y, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE BREWS WILL MAKE THAT INVESTMENT CHOICE? WHO OUT THERE HAS ANY SPing TO TRADE &amp; WON&#8217;T BALK AT 2Y/30M FOR A 1B? I BELIEVE AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT BOTH MAINE &amp; PELFREY CAN BECOME 15W PITCHERS REUNITED WITH PETERSON. I&#8217;LL ADMIT IT&#8217;S CERTAINLY ARGUABLE. POTENTIAL CERTAINLY IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION. THESE 2 PITCHER&#8217;S POTENTIAL IS DEFINITELY LESS QUESTIONABLE THAN THAT OF AN UNVETTED PROSPECT. THERE ARE VERY,VERY FEW FRANCHISES WILLING TO MAKE THAT SIZED(30M/2Y) FINANCIAL COMMITMENT, FOR VERY GOOD REASONS. THE D-BACKS ATTEMPTED BIG SPEND POLICIES ALL THE WAY TO THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY. DID THE BRAVES PASS ON REUPPING ANY OF THEIR BIG 3 BECAUSE THEY COULD NO LONGER PITCH? OAKLAND? SAME QUESTION. ROI IS VERY IMPORTANT TO MID-MKT BASEBALL CLUBS. MILWALKEE GAMBLED ON SABATHIA &amp; LOST CONSIDERABLY.  MOST LIKELY THE GOOD FEELINGS OF A FAILED POSTSEASON BERTH HAVE ALREADY FADED FROM THE TURNSTILES. HOW POPULAR IS THAT &#8220;M&#8221; LOGO? APPEARED IN ANY MOVIES OR NON-SPORTS MAGAZINES? THAT&#8217;S WHAT PAYS THE FREIGHT, BRAND MARKETING! A 30M INVESTMENT IN &#8216;M&#8217;BRAND WILL NEVER PAY LIKE IT WOULD IN AN EAST COAST BASEBALL MECCA LIKE NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: Garys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62,  I also have a VHS with the 69 worked series but MLB broadcast the entire games, and I watched this in conjunction with this years WS.  The 69 Mets had a combination of gut and determination to go with thier great pitching. Baltimore had great pitching also.
Anyway, your Prince scenario makes some sense as long as he can hit 35 HRs in Citifield.  I&#039;m not as concerned about Delgado&#039;s bat speed as you are.  Last time he played regularly he seems fine.

The key signing is Lackey.  That makes everything else possible. IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62,  I also have a VHS with the 69 worked series but MLB broadcast the entire games, and I watched this in conjunction with this years WS.  The 69 Mets had a combination of gut and determination to go with thier great pitching. Baltimore had great pitching also.<br />
Anyway, your Prince scenario makes some sense as long as he can hit 35 HRs in Citifield.  I&#8217;m not as concerned about Delgado&#8217;s bat speed as you are.  Last time he played regularly he seems fine.</p>
<p>The key signing is Lackey.  That makes everything else possible. IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GARY, I WAS GIFTED THE &#039;69 SERIES ON VHS 12 YRS AGO &amp; I AGREE. REMEMBER CONTEXTUALLY, THE &#039;69 SQUAD WAS THE FIRST 5 MAN ROTATION INSTEAD OF 4, MEANING MOST LIKELY SEAVER,KOOSMAN,McANDREW,GENTRY ALL DID THEIR MILB CAREERS AS PARTS OF 4 MAN SQUADS DICTATING MANY MORE IP IN MINORS UNLIKE TODAY WHERE ANTIQUE CRYSTAL ISN&#039;T CONSIDERED AS FRAGILE AS SPing ARMS. 
MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH DELGADO WOULD BE HIS BATSPEED MORE THAN HIS HIP. HE&#039;S A GOOD HEALTH RECORD IF U DISCOUNT INJ CAUSED BY HBP. HIS LOWER BDY(TRUNK) HAS BEEN A CONSTANT ASSET, BROKEN HANDS, WRIST IDSSUES HIS ACHILLES(PUN INTENDED). HIS MAINTAING THAT BAT SPEED IS TANTAMOUNT TO HIS SUCCESSFUL RETURN, IF THERE&#039;S ANY DOUBT, FIELDER IS THE #1 MUST HAVE FOR THIS TEAM, EVEN BEFORE A #2SP. FIELDER WOYULD BE A 30M 2Y INVESTMENT MILWALKEE CAN LITTLE AFFORD. HOW MANY TEAMS, OUT THERE CAN MEET THE CRIOTERIA OF 1) DEALING EXPERIENCED,AFFORDABLE SPing &amp; 2) AFFORD TO TAKE ON 2Y/30M FOR 1B? FOR THAT SIZED SPENDING U NEED ONLY LOOK AT THE TOP 10 PAYROLL CLUBS: NYY,NYM,CHC,DET,PHL,BOS,LAA,LAD
I BELIEVE WE&#039;RE THE ONLY YEA TO BOTH QUESTIONS! WE JUST LOCKED PELFREY IN FOR 500K BARELY OVER MINIMUM, VERY AFFORDABLE &amp; DEALABLE PELFREY HAS 1.12 YRS SVC TIME, MAINE 3.088 NEEDING 5 FOR F/ACY. MAINE LIKELY TENDERED 3M MADE 2.6 IN &#039;09. BOTH ARGUABLY POTENTIAL 15W CAPABLE ONCE REUNITED WITH PETERSON. 2 ME THIS IS A MUST FOR BOTH CLUBS &amp; IF MURPH INCLUDED A GOOD DEAL FOR BREWS, BETTER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GARY, I WAS GIFTED THE &#8217;69 SERIES ON VHS 12 YRS AGO &amp; I AGREE. REMEMBER CONTEXTUALLY, THE &#8217;69 SQUAD WAS THE FIRST 5 MAN ROTATION INSTEAD OF 4, MEANING MOST LIKELY SEAVER,KOOSMAN,McANDREW,GENTRY ALL DID THEIR MILB CAREERS AS PARTS OF 4 MAN SQUADS DICTATING MANY MORE IP IN MINORS UNLIKE TODAY WHERE ANTIQUE CRYSTAL ISN&#8217;T CONSIDERED AS FRAGILE AS SPing ARMS.<br />
MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH DELGADO WOULD BE HIS BATSPEED MORE THAN HIS HIP. HE&#8217;S A GOOD HEALTH RECORD IF U DISCOUNT INJ CAUSED BY HBP. HIS LOWER BDY(TRUNK) HAS BEEN A CONSTANT ASSET, BROKEN HANDS, WRIST IDSSUES HIS ACHILLES(PUN INTENDED). HIS MAINTAING THAT BAT SPEED IS TANTAMOUNT TO HIS SUCCESSFUL RETURN, IF THERE&#8217;S ANY DOUBT, FIELDER IS THE #1 MUST HAVE FOR THIS TEAM, EVEN BEFORE A #2SP. FIELDER WOYULD BE A 30M 2Y INVESTMENT MILWALKEE CAN LITTLE AFFORD. HOW MANY TEAMS, OUT THERE CAN MEET THE CRIOTERIA OF 1) DEALING EXPERIENCED,AFFORDABLE SPing &amp; 2) AFFORD TO TAKE ON 2Y/30M FOR 1B? FOR THAT SIZED SPENDING U NEED ONLY LOOK AT THE TOP 10 PAYROLL CLUBS: NYY,NYM,CHC,DET,PHL,BOS,LAA,LAD<br />
I BELIEVE WE&#8217;RE THE ONLY YEA TO BOTH QUESTIONS! WE JUST LOCKED PELFREY IN FOR 500K BARELY OVER MINIMUM, VERY AFFORDABLE &amp; DEALABLE PELFREY HAS 1.12 YRS SVC TIME, MAINE 3.088 NEEDING 5 FOR F/ACY. MAINE LIKELY TENDERED 3M MADE 2.6 IN &#8217;09. BOTH ARGUABLY POTENTIAL 15W CAPABLE ONCE REUNITED WITH PETERSON. 2 ME THIS IS A MUST FOR BOTH CLUBS &amp; IF MURPH INCLUDED A GOOD DEAL FOR BREWS, BETTER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GARY, I TOO, RESPECT YOUR THOUGHTH PROCESS &amp; WOULD ENJOY DIRECT COMMUNICATION, UNFORTUNATLY YOUR GUESS IN INCORRECT, I WAS ONCE A BKLYN NATIVE; NOW LIVING IN MATTHEWS, NC. MY DIRECT EMAIL IS PTHYLAND@AOL.COM, IN LIEU OF A VERY LONG LUNCH COMMUTE BY EITHER OF US. AFTER I VACATED BKLYN IN &#039;76 FOR MIDDLESEX CNTY, NJ I WAS RELOCATED TO SOUTH JERSEY, CHERRY HILL, PHL SUBURB, AFTER THAT, COLUMBUS, GA.(3 YRS) THEN BACK TO NJ (2 YRS.) ONTO LOS ANGELES (10 YRS) NOW NC FOR 11 YRS &amp; RUNNING. I&#039;LL TURN 60 IN A MONTH, 12/10 &amp; AFTER STARTING OUT A BKLYN FAN, 1st EVER LIVE GAME @ 4 OR 5 IN EBBETS FLD WITH MY NANA, SPUR OF THE MOMENT. MY MOST LASTING &#039;FEELING&#039; FROM THAT GAME WAS THE AWE OF SO MUCH GREEN INSTEAD OF TV GRAY. I CAN STILL FEEL THAT FELING WHENEVER I REMEMBER THE DAY. LOOK FORWARD TO DIRECT CORRESPONDENCE, WARNING I&#039;M AN OPTIMIST THAT RECOGNIZES THE RESTRAINTS OF RUNNING NYM BY OWNERSHIP RESTRICTIONS. I DON&#039;T LIKE THEM; BUT I ACCEPT THEM.
I FEEL BUOYED BY RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT OF BOTH NY &amp; MILWALKEE. BREWS HIRING PETERSON &amp; DEALING HARDY TO MINN FOR GOMEZ AS HARDY WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR TRADE CHIPS DOUG MELVIN POINTED TO FOR USE IN OBTAING HIS DESIRED PITCHING, HE DEALT HARDY FOR AN OUTFIELDER &amp; NO PITCHING, POSSIBLY SINCE HE&#039;S IDENTIFIED, COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING ON GETTING HIS DESIRED 2 EXPERIENCED SP, WHO ELSE HAS EXCESS SPing OF ANY CAPABILITY &amp; IS EXPERIENCED.
OMAR HAS CERTAINLY PROVEN ADEPT AT STEALTHY DEALINGS, MILLEDGE,CAMERON,CHURCH, NADY ALL DEALT WITH NO LEAKAGE TO MEDIA NOT EVEN ON THE MOST EXTREME BLOG SITES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GARY, I TOO, RESPECT YOUR THOUGHTH PROCESS &amp; WOULD ENJOY DIRECT COMMUNICATION, UNFORTUNATLY YOUR GUESS IN INCORRECT, I WAS ONCE A BKLYN NATIVE; NOW LIVING IN MATTHEWS, NC. MY DIRECT EMAIL IS <a href="mailto:PTHYLAND@AOL.COM">PTHYLAND@AOL.COM</a>, IN LIEU OF A VERY LONG LUNCH COMMUTE BY EITHER OF US. AFTER I VACATED BKLYN IN &#8217;76 FOR MIDDLESEX CNTY, NJ I WAS RELOCATED TO SOUTH JERSEY, CHERRY HILL, PHL SUBURB, AFTER THAT, COLUMBUS, GA.(3 YRS) THEN BACK TO NJ (2 YRS.) ONTO LOS ANGELES (10 YRS) NOW NC FOR 11 YRS &amp; RUNNING. I&#8217;LL TURN 60 IN A MONTH, 12/10 &amp; AFTER STARTING OUT A BKLYN FAN, 1st EVER LIVE GAME @ 4 OR 5 IN EBBETS FLD WITH MY NANA, SPUR OF THE MOMENT. MY MOST LASTING &#8216;FEELING&#8217; FROM THAT GAME WAS THE AWE OF SO MUCH GREEN INSTEAD OF TV GRAY. I CAN STILL FEEL THAT FELING WHENEVER I REMEMBER THE DAY. LOOK FORWARD TO DIRECT CORRESPONDENCE, WARNING I&#8217;M AN OPTIMIST THAT RECOGNIZES THE RESTRAINTS OF RUNNING NYM BY OWNERSHIP RESTRICTIONS. I DON&#8217;T LIKE THEM; BUT I ACCEPT THEM.<br />
I FEEL BUOYED BY RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT OF BOTH NY &amp; MILWALKEE. BREWS HIRING PETERSON &amp; DEALING HARDY TO MINN FOR GOMEZ AS HARDY WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR TRADE CHIPS DOUG MELVIN POINTED TO FOR USE IN OBTAING HIS DESIRED PITCHING, HE DEALT HARDY FOR AN OUTFIELDER &amp; NO PITCHING, POSSIBLY SINCE HE&#8217;S IDENTIFIED, COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING ON GETTING HIS DESIRED 2 EXPERIENCED SP, WHO ELSE HAS EXCESS SPing OF ANY CAPABILITY &amp; IS EXPERIENCED.<br />
OMAR HAS CERTAINLY PROVEN ADEPT AT STEALTHY DEALINGS, MILLEDGE,CAMERON,CHURCH, NADY ALL DEALT WITH NO LEAKAGE TO MEDIA NOT EVEN ON THE MOST EXTREME BLOG SITES.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryS</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/breaking-down-the-mets-bullpen-j-j-putz.html#comment-31932</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62, I imagine you live in NYC or Queens..  We&#039;re about the same age so it would nice to meet some day.
If we trade for fielder at the Winter Meetings or even sign Delgado, other free agents will take us more seriously.  Lackey has pitched in the playoffs three season in a row and probably won&#039;t want to taker a step back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62, I imagine you live in NYC or Queens..  We&#8217;re about the same age so it would nice to meet some day.<br />
If we trade for fielder at the Winter Meetings or even sign Delgado, other free agents will take us more seriously.  Lackey has pitched in the playoffs three season in a row and probably won&#8217;t want to taker a step back.</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
DANNY, ESCAPE THE NY BUBBLE. IS IT OUTRAGEOUS TO SAY REUNITED WITH PETERSON BOTH PELFREY &amp; MAINE ARE POTENTIAL 15G WINNERS? I THINK NOT! CONSIDERING MILWALKEES WINNINGEST SP WAS 14-7, AN ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THEY COULD BE ACQUIRING THEIR TOP 2 SP &amp; SAVING 30M OVER NEXT 2 YRS. NOT A SMALL CONSIDERATION.
WHAT DI U THINK OF BRADEN LOOPER AS A MET? I&#039;M GUESSING NOT A BIG STALWART FAN; CONSIDER LOOPER WAS THAT 14-7 SP FOR BREWCREW IN &#039;09.
TEAMS GUNNING FOR THE WS PRIORITIZE 2 EST ACES AS NECESSARY, TEAMS SETTLING FOR W/C HOPES NOT SO MUCH.</description>
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DANNY, ESCAPE THE NY BUBBLE. IS IT OUTRAGEOUS TO SAY REUNITED WITH PETERSON BOTH PELFREY &amp; MAINE ARE POTENTIAL 15G WINNERS? I THINK NOT! CONSIDERING MILWALKEES WINNINGEST SP WAS 14-7, AN ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THEY COULD BE ACQUIRING THEIR TOP 2 SP &amp; SAVING 30M OVER NEXT 2 YRS. NOT A SMALL CONSIDERATION.<br />
WHAT DI U THINK OF BRADEN LOOPER AS A MET? I&#8217;M GUESSING NOT A BIG STALWART FAN; CONSIDER LOOPER WAS THAT 14-7 SP FOR BREWCREW IN &#8217;09.<br />
TEAMS GUNNING FOR THE WS PRIORITIZE 2 EST ACES AS NECESSARY, TEAMS SETTLING FOR W/C HOPES NOT SO MUCH.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I violently agree with you 62.  I live in Florida but am leaving today for a short NYC business trip.  Fielder is my first choice for cleanup and Delgado my second choice.  Speaking of Seaver, MLB was rerunning the 60 WS and I was a high school student and managed to see games 5 and 5, but never on TV until now.  Cleon Jones led the team with .340, 12hr and 75 RBIs.  That 69 team had two pitcher as good as or better than Santana, three if you count Nolan Ryan who of course pitched in game 4.  Gentry and Mcandrew better than Pelfrey and Maine.  The difference was work ethic and fundamentals and mainly Gil Hodges.  We need to consider that we can&#039;t win with Jerry M.  I watched the game in awe  Seaver had pitched over 300 innings and in his last 8 regular season games, all were complete and his ERA was 1.00.  Then on 4 days rest he pitches 10 innings in game 4, no pitch count being mentioned.  Watch the game and you&#039;ll see that in the 7th inning, he gets this second wind and pitches harder and more accurately.  The point is that the 69 METS with little hitting produced enough runs for a world championship,
Back to the present.   If we keep Delgado and he&#039;s healthy, and sign Lackey, and sign Holliday, we have a team.  Murphy is fine as a late inning defensive replacement, spot starter (30 games) and pinch hitter.  Then we must sign Lackey whom I had no interest in last year, and maybe, here it comes Pedro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I violently agree with you 62.  I live in Florida but am leaving today for a short NYC business trip.  Fielder is my first choice for cleanup and Delgado my second choice.  Speaking of Seaver, MLB was rerunning the 60 WS and I was a high school student and managed to see games 5 and 5, but never on TV until now.  Cleon Jones led the team with .340, 12hr and 75 RBIs.  That 69 team had two pitcher as good as or better than Santana, three if you count Nolan Ryan who of course pitched in game 4.  Gentry and Mcandrew better than Pelfrey and Maine.  The difference was work ethic and fundamentals and mainly Gil Hodges.  We need to consider that we can&#8217;t win with Jerry M.  I watched the game in awe  Seaver had pitched over 300 innings and in his last 8 regular season games, all were complete and his ERA was 1.00.  Then on 4 days rest he pitches 10 innings in game 4, no pitch count being mentioned.  Watch the game and you&#8217;ll see that in the 7th inning, he gets this second wind and pitches harder and more accurately.  The point is that the 69 METS with little hitting produced enough runs for a world championship,<br />
Back to the present.   If we keep Delgado and he&#8217;s healthy, and sign Lackey, and sign Holliday, we have a team.  Murphy is fine as a late inning defensive replacement, spot starter (30 games) and pinch hitter.  Then we must sign Lackey whom I had no interest in last year, and maybe, here it comes Pedro.</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/breaking-down-the-mets-bullpen-j-j-putz.html#comment-31923</link>
		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANKS, GARY. I WAS BEGINNING TO THINK I WAS ARGUING WITH MY COUSIN, AN ARROGANT, NYM CAN&#039;T SUCCEED, NYY FAN.

IF I CONSIDER ALL THESE SO-CALLED OFFENSIVE SOLUTIONS BEING BANDIED AROUND LIKE HOLLIDAY, BAY, GLAUS, MOLINA, BARAJAS, DiROSA, GONZALES, HUDSON EVEN ADDED TO EXISTING STALWARTS WRIGHT, BELTRAN, FRANCOUER. 

I DON&#039;T SEE ONE CLEANUP OPTION. AM I THE ONLY ONE REMEMBERING THE FRUSTRATION OF &#039;05 WHEN OMAR BUILT A LINEUP COUNTING ON ADDING DELGADO, THAT WHEN HE FAILED, THE LINEUP FELL APART FOR LACK OF THAT BIG BOPPING #4?  2 ME THIS HAS TO BE PRIORITY #1. THERE&#039;S A NUMBER OF SPers FROM LACKEY,MARQUIS,WOLF, PINIERO, HALLADAY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDED TO ARGUABLE DEGREES; BUT I MAY BE MYOPIC IN SAYING I ONLY SEE ONE TRUE VIABLE CLEANUP BOPPER AS POSSIBLY AVAILABLE. THE FACT HE PLAYS A POSITION WE HAVE VACANT IS A HUGE &quot;STARS ALLIGNED&quot; PLUS WE CAN&#039;T LET PASS. I&#039;M TURNING 60 IN ABOUT A MONTH AND I&#039;VER NEVER THOUGHT A MET SEASON HINGED ON ADDING ONE PLAYER AS MUCH AS THIS. IF WE PASS UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENAME THE PEPSI PORCH, PRINE&#039;S BALCONEY WE&#039;RE DAMNED FOOLS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANKS, GARY. I WAS BEGINNING TO THINK I WAS ARGUING WITH MY COUSIN, AN ARROGANT, NYM CAN&#8217;T SUCCEED, NYY FAN.</p>
<p>IF I CONSIDER ALL THESE SO-CALLED OFFENSIVE SOLUTIONS BEING BANDIED AROUND LIKE HOLLIDAY, BAY, GLAUS, MOLINA, BARAJAS, DiROSA, GONZALES, HUDSON EVEN ADDED TO EXISTING STALWARTS WRIGHT, BELTRAN, FRANCOUER. </p>
<p>I DON&#8217;T SEE ONE CLEANUP OPTION. AM I THE ONLY ONE REMEMBERING THE FRUSTRATION OF &#8217;05 WHEN OMAR BUILT A LINEUP COUNTING ON ADDING DELGADO, THAT WHEN HE FAILED, THE LINEUP FELL APART FOR LACK OF THAT BIG BOPPING #4?  2 ME THIS HAS TO BE PRIORITY #1. THERE&#8217;S A NUMBER OF SPers FROM LACKEY,MARQUIS,WOLF, PINIERO, HALLADAY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDED TO ARGUABLE DEGREES; BUT I MAY BE MYOPIC IN SAYING I ONLY SEE ONE TRUE VIABLE CLEANUP BOPPER AS POSSIBLY AVAILABLE. THE FACT HE PLAYS A POSITION WE HAVE VACANT IS A HUGE &#8220;STARS ALLIGNED&#8221; PLUS WE CAN&#8217;T LET PASS. I&#8217;M TURNING 60 IN ABOUT A MONTH AND I&#8217;VER NEVER THOUGHT A MET SEASON HINGED ON ADDING ONE PLAYER AS MUCH AS THIS. IF WE PASS UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENAME THE PEPSI PORCH, PRINE&#8217;S BALCONEY WE&#8217;RE DAMNED FOOLS!</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/breaking-down-the-mets-bullpen-j-j-putz.html#comment-31922</link>
		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GARY, THAT 10.5 ONLY LASTS THROUGH 2010 AFTER WHICH THEY FACE BORAS WITH HIS REAMS OF PRETTY CHARTS IN AN ARBITRATION HEARING THAT ODDS-ON WILL AT LEAST DOUBLE THAT 10M ala TEX CONTRACT LEVEL. THEY CAN&#039;T AFFORD THAT AS IT PUTS THEM OVER 100M IN A LESS THAN PRIME MKT. THE MILWALKEE ROTATION IN &#039;09 AMASSED A SPers ERA &gt;5.2, THE WORST IN MLB. THEIR WINNINGEST PITCHER, LOOPER, IS EXPECTED TO DECLINE THEIR 6M TEAM OPTION &amp; TAKE HIS TEAM LEADING 14-7 RECORD ON THE MKT. THEY ALREADY DEALT HARDY FOR NO PITCHING &amp; THEIR GM ANNOUNCED A DESIRE TO ADD 2 &#039;EXPERIENCED&#039; SP. ATL HAS SPing TO DEAL, ALL OF WHICH EARNING AT LEAST 10M PER EACH. OUR TRADABLE PITCHERS ARE ALL EXPERIENCED WITH VERY MANAGABLE SALARIES EXCL PEREZ.  NOT GOOD ENOUGH? FOR NY QUITE POSSIBLY; BUT COMPARED TO MILWALKEE&#039;S ROTATION, BOTH MAINE &amp; PELFREY, 2 MOST EXPERIENCEDS/TRADEABLE ARE COMING OFF DOWN SEASONS WHEN EVEN THEIR LOUSY NUMBERS ARE ARGUABLY #2  IN A MILWALKEE ROTATION. BEAUTY IS ALWAYS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. REMEMBER EVEN THOUGH FIELDER&#039;S CONTRACT ENDS THIS ZSEASON, HE IS NOT A ONE YEAR SOLUTION SINCE HIS LACK OF SVC TIME PRECLUDES HIM FROM FREE AGENCY; BUT RATHER EARNS HIM ARBITRATION HEARING THAT LIKELY AWARDS HIM 1Y @ 20M(TEX &amp; HOWARD $)2Y @ 30M IS NOT OUTRAGEOUS FOR NYM CONSIDERATION. OTHERWISE WHO BATS CLEANUP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GARY, THAT 10.5 ONLY LASTS THROUGH 2010 AFTER WHICH THEY FACE BORAS WITH HIS REAMS OF PRETTY CHARTS IN AN ARBITRATION HEARING THAT ODDS-ON WILL AT LEAST DOUBLE THAT 10M ala TEX CONTRACT LEVEL. THEY CAN&#8217;T AFFORD THAT AS IT PUTS THEM OVER 100M IN A LESS THAN PRIME MKT. THE MILWALKEE ROTATION IN &#8217;09 AMASSED A SPers ERA &gt;5.2, THE WORST IN MLB. THEIR WINNINGEST PITCHER, LOOPER, IS EXPECTED TO DECLINE THEIR 6M TEAM OPTION &amp; TAKE HIS TEAM LEADING 14-7 RECORD ON THE MKT. THEY ALREADY DEALT HARDY FOR NO PITCHING &amp; THEIR GM ANNOUNCED A DESIRE TO ADD 2 &#8216;EXPERIENCED&#8217; SP. ATL HAS SPing TO DEAL, ALL OF WHICH EARNING AT LEAST 10M PER EACH. OUR TRADABLE PITCHERS ARE ALL EXPERIENCED WITH VERY MANAGABLE SALARIES EXCL PEREZ.  NOT GOOD ENOUGH? FOR NY QUITE POSSIBLY; BUT COMPARED TO MILWALKEE&#8217;S ROTATION, BOTH MAINE &amp; PELFREY, 2 MOST EXPERIENCEDS/TRADEABLE ARE COMING OFF DOWN SEASONS WHEN EVEN THEIR LOUSY NUMBERS ARE ARGUABLY #2  IN A MILWALKEE ROTATION. BEAUTY IS ALWAYS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. REMEMBER EVEN THOUGH FIELDER&#8217;S CONTRACT ENDS THIS ZSEASON, HE IS NOT A ONE YEAR SOLUTION SINCE HIS LACK OF SVC TIME PRECLUDES HIM FROM FREE AGENCY; BUT RATHER EARNS HIM ARBITRATION HEARING THAT LIKELY AWARDS HIM 1Y @ 20M(TEX &amp; HOWARD $)2Y @ 30M IS NOT OUTRAGEOUS FOR NYM CONSIDERATION. OTHERWISE WHO BATS CLEANUP?</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/breaking-down-the-mets-bullpen-j-j-putz.html#comment-31921</link>
		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
ON THE SURFACE, I LIKE WHAT I READ; BUT  ALL THE HITTERS MENTIONED, HOLLIDAY,BAY,HUDSON,GLAUS ARE ALL SUPPORT TYPES. IF I COMBINE ALL OF THEM WITH WHO WE ALREADY HAVE, I DON&#039;T FIND ONE BIG BOPPING CLEANUP THREAT TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY THUNDER TO ACCOMPANY OUR TOP OF THE ORDER LIGHTNING. DELGADO IS THE ONLY ONE REMOTELY CAPABLE OF FILLING THAT HOLE. IF NOT DELGADO, THE OBVIOUS CHOUICE WOULD BE TO USE THAT SP MOVEMENT TO ACQUIRE FIELDER. THOUGH FIELDER&#039;S 1O.5M DEAL EXPIRES AFTER &#039;10 HE&#039;S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR F/A; BUT FOR ARBITRATION WHICH I&#039;D GUARANTEE AN AWARD OF 20M IS NOT UNREALISTIC AS BORAS IS HIS REP &amp; 30M OVER 2Y IS NOT UNREALISTIC FOR THE PRESENCE HE&#039;D PROVIDE IN THAT #4 SPOT FROM 1B.
WHILE ALL THESE HOLES BEING FILLED ARE OF VARYING IMPORTANCE, I WOULD PRIORITIZE ACQUIRING A 40HR CLEANUP PRESENCE AS TOP PRIORITY. BAY,HOLIDAY,BELTRAN,WRIGHT,GLAUS ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE POWER HITTERS U EMINATE OUT FROM THAT CLEANUP HORSE IN A PROPER COMPETITIVE LINEUP.
DOUG MELVIN, MILW GM, IDENTIFIED 2 SP AS HIS OFFSEASON PRIORITY &amp; SINCE HE&#039;S ALREADY DEALT HARDY FO NO PITCHING, HIS DEALABLE OFFENSE IS DWINDLING. A FULLCOURT PRESS IS REQUIRED FOR THE &quot;MISSING LINK&quot; FROM OUR LINEUP. DELGADO&#039;S RESURGANCE IS A HUGE GAMBLE A TRUE CONTENDER DOESN&#039;T MAKE &amp; POSSIBLE WASTE OF #2 PAYROLL MONEY; FIELDER BATTING FOURTH IS THE ONLY SURE BET TO SOLIDIFYING THAT LINEUP. ADD ALL THE PITCHING U WANT, NO ONE WINS 0-0 CONTESTS. JUST ASK SEAVER.</description>
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ON THE SURFACE, I LIKE WHAT I READ; BUT  ALL THE HITTERS MENTIONED, HOLLIDAY,BAY,HUDSON,GLAUS ARE ALL SUPPORT TYPES. IF I COMBINE ALL OF THEM WITH WHO WE ALREADY HAVE, I DON&#8217;T FIND ONE BIG BOPPING CLEANUP THREAT TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY THUNDER TO ACCOMPANY OUR TOP OF THE ORDER LIGHTNING. DELGADO IS THE ONLY ONE REMOTELY CAPABLE OF FILLING THAT HOLE. IF NOT DELGADO, THE OBVIOUS CHOUICE WOULD BE TO USE THAT SP MOVEMENT TO ACQUIRE FIELDER. THOUGH FIELDER&#8217;S 1O.5M DEAL EXPIRES AFTER &#8217;10 HE&#8217;S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR F/A; BUT FOR ARBITRATION WHICH I&#8217;D GUARANTEE AN AWARD OF 20M IS NOT UNREALISTIC AS BORAS IS HIS REP &amp; 30M OVER 2Y IS NOT UNREALISTIC FOR THE PRESENCE HE&#8217;D PROVIDE IN THAT #4 SPOT FROM 1B.<br />
WHILE ALL THESE HOLES BEING FILLED ARE OF VARYING IMPORTANCE, I WOULD PRIORITIZE ACQUIRING A 40HR CLEANUP PRESENCE AS TOP PRIORITY. BAY,HOLIDAY,BELTRAN,WRIGHT,GLAUS ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE POWER HITTERS U EMINATE OUT FROM THAT CLEANUP HORSE IN A PROPER COMPETITIVE LINEUP.<br />
DOUG MELVIN, MILW GM, IDENTIFIED 2 SP AS HIS OFFSEASON PRIORITY &amp; SINCE HE&#8217;S ALREADY DEALT HARDY FO NO PITCHING, HIS DEALABLE OFFENSE IS DWINDLING. A FULLCOURT PRESS IS REQUIRED FOR THE &#8220;MISSING LINK&#8221; FROM OUR LINEUP. DELGADO&#8217;S RESURGANCE IS A HUGE GAMBLE A TRUE CONTENDER DOESN&#8217;T MAKE &amp; POSSIBLE WASTE OF #2 PAYROLL MONEY; FIELDER BATTING FOURTH IS THE ONLY SURE BET TO SOLIDIFYING THAT LINEUP. ADD ALL THE PITCHING U WANT, NO ONE WINS 0-0 CONTESTS. JUST ASK SEAVER.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it yesterday and for the most part I liked what I read.</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this on Mets.com, it&#039;s a pretty good read, so take a look, I look forward to everybody thoughts:

Mets&#039; offseason wheels in motion
Club sees a fit with players already filing for free agency 

By Marty Noble / MLB.com

11/05/09 8:53 PM EST

NEW YORK -- Not to rush the season or anything, but the Mets may begin their Holliday shopping forthwith. Among the 79 big league players who filed for free agency Thursday was one Matt Holliday, a player with skills that are consistent with the Mets&#039; expressed needs. Holliday hits baseballs over and beyond fences, something that was beyond the Mets&#039; power most of last season.

He is one of nine players who availed themselves to free agency Thursday who interest the Mets as they try to make to make roster repairs following an unrewarding and unsightly season. Also filing were fellow slugger Jason Bay; starting pitchers John Lackey, Jason Marquis and Randy Wolf; outfielder Mike Cameron; second baseman Orlando Hudson; and first baseman Troy Glaus, each of whom could fill a need for the Mets.

And among the eight players who were on the Mets&#039; roster and eligible for free agency, two filed -- Carlos Delgado and Brian Schneider. The club has a degree of interest in affording Delgado a chance, but such a move would be inconsistent with the high regard for Daniel Murphy that exists in some offices -- including the manager&#039;s -- at Citi Field.

The 15-day filing period ends Nov 19. Until then, the Mets may negotiate with and sign Delgado, Schneider and any of the other six eligible players on their 40-man roster who file. Alex Cora, Elmer Dessens, Ramon Martinez, Gary Sheffield and Fernando Tatis also are eligible, and J.J. Putz is likely to become eligible. The Mets are not likely to exercise their option on the contract of the veteran relief pitcher.

The Mets may notify any free agent to express interest during the filing period, but only incumbent clubs may negotiate and sign players until after the filing period.

The Mets have not said publicly which players most interest them, but people within the organization who are familiar with the club&#039;s thinking have mentioned Holliday, Bay, Lackey, Marquis, Wolf, Cameron, Hudson, Glaus and two catchers who are eligible to file -- Bengie Molina and Rod Barajas. Chances are the club will speak with the agents representing Delgado, Cora, Tatis and also Putz, once it declines to exercise its option on his contract.

The club has identified and prioritized its needs as follows -- power hitters, a No. 2 starting pitcher, a veteran catcher and, as always, setup relief. Holliday and Bay appear to be the most attractive sluggers, and Lackey and Marquis the most attractive starting pitchers. Chances are those four will be among the most actively pursued of the 180-some odd players likely to file.

How actively general manager Omar Minaya and his staff will pursue any free agent is an unknown. Club COO Jeff Wilpon said the day after the Mets&#039; 70-92 season ended that the club would provide &quot;what Omar needs&quot; to restore the Mets as contenders. But, of course, the Mets are not alone in the market.

Holliday&#039;s value has increased dramatically in the aftermath of his summer in St. Louis. He provided legitimate protection for Albert Pujols after he was acquired by the Cardinals. And, as the most marketable and available starter, Lackey is likely to attract many suitors too.

The Mets&#039; poor 2009 season may make them less attractive to free agents than they were a year ago when they signed free agent Frankie Rodriguez. Moreover, hitters may be persuaded to look elsewhere because of the pitcher-friendly image of Citi Field. And, until the Mets acquire a catcher, pitchers may be reluctant to sign.

The Mets&#039; needs are so many that they cannot establish one course of action. Signing one or two of the primary free agents would make a difference. But if that can&#039;t be accomplished, what then? Some possibilities the Mets have discussed follow:

• Pursue Cameron to play left field, thereby improving the outfield defense and adding some power. That would reduce Angel Pagan to a reserve role, which is what the club prefers. Chances are the Mets would want Cameron for one season, affording more time for Fernando Martinez to develop. 

• Include Luis Castillo in a trade package and hope to fill a need with what they receive in return and then sign Hudson to play second base. The Mets believe that Castillo&#039;s renaissance season and, in particular, his on-base average, .387, have made him attractive to other clubs. Hudson, who lost his second-base job with the Dodgers, is not likely to be pursued by too many clubs.

• Sign Glaus, a right-handed power hitter, to a conditional contract and have him available to share first base with Murphy and provide power off the bench. That would all but eliminate Delgado from the Mets&#039; thoughts. But for now, the club is considering offering Delgado a conditional contract.

• Sign Wolf and package a starter on the Mets&#039; roster -- not Johan Santana, of course -- to acquire a No. 2 starter or a slugging outfielder. 

Marty Noble is a reporter for MLB.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this on Mets.com, it&#8217;s a pretty good read, so take a look, I look forward to everybody thoughts:</p>
<p>Mets&#8217; offseason wheels in motion<br />
Club sees a fit with players already filing for free agency </p>
<p>By Marty Noble / MLB.com</p>
<p>11/05/09 8:53 PM EST</p>
<p>NEW YORK &#8212; Not to rush the season or anything, but the Mets may begin their Holliday shopping forthwith. Among the 79 big league players who filed for free agency Thursday was one Matt Holliday, a player with skills that are consistent with the Mets&#8217; expressed needs. Holliday hits baseballs over and beyond fences, something that was beyond the Mets&#8217; power most of last season.</p>
<p>He is one of nine players who availed themselves to free agency Thursday who interest the Mets as they try to make to make roster repairs following an unrewarding and unsightly season. Also filing were fellow slugger Jason Bay; starting pitchers John Lackey, Jason Marquis and Randy Wolf; outfielder Mike Cameron; second baseman Orlando Hudson; and first baseman Troy Glaus, each of whom could fill a need for the Mets.</p>
<p>And among the eight players who were on the Mets&#8217; roster and eligible for free agency, two filed &#8212; Carlos Delgado and Brian Schneider. The club has a degree of interest in affording Delgado a chance, but such a move would be inconsistent with the high regard for Daniel Murphy that exists in some offices &#8212; including the manager&#8217;s &#8212; at Citi Field.</p>
<p>The 15-day filing period ends Nov 19. Until then, the Mets may negotiate with and sign Delgado, Schneider and any of the other six eligible players on their 40-man roster who file. Alex Cora, Elmer Dessens, Ramon Martinez, Gary Sheffield and Fernando Tatis also are eligible, and J.J. Putz is likely to become eligible. The Mets are not likely to exercise their option on the contract of the veteran relief pitcher.</p>
<p>The Mets may notify any free agent to express interest during the filing period, but only incumbent clubs may negotiate and sign players until after the filing period.</p>
<p>The Mets have not said publicly which players most interest them, but people within the organization who are familiar with the club&#8217;s thinking have mentioned Holliday, Bay, Lackey, Marquis, Wolf, Cameron, Hudson, Glaus and two catchers who are eligible to file &#8212; Bengie Molina and Rod Barajas. Chances are the club will speak with the agents representing Delgado, Cora, Tatis and also Putz, once it declines to exercise its option on his contract.</p>
<p>The club has identified and prioritized its needs as follows &#8212; power hitters, a No. 2 starting pitcher, a veteran catcher and, as always, setup relief. Holliday and Bay appear to be the most attractive sluggers, and Lackey and Marquis the most attractive starting pitchers. Chances are those four will be among the most actively pursued of the 180-some odd players likely to file.</p>
<p>How actively general manager Omar Minaya and his staff will pursue any free agent is an unknown. Club COO Jeff Wilpon said the day after the Mets&#8217; 70-92 season ended that the club would provide &#8220;what Omar needs&#8221; to restore the Mets as contenders. But, of course, the Mets are not alone in the market.</p>
<p>Holliday&#8217;s value has increased dramatically in the aftermath of his summer in St. Louis. He provided legitimate protection for Albert Pujols after he was acquired by the Cardinals. And, as the most marketable and available starter, Lackey is likely to attract many suitors too.</p>
<p>The Mets&#8217; poor 2009 season may make them less attractive to free agents than they were a year ago when they signed free agent Frankie Rodriguez. Moreover, hitters may be persuaded to look elsewhere because of the pitcher-friendly image of Citi Field. And, until the Mets acquire a catcher, pitchers may be reluctant to sign.</p>
<p>The Mets&#8217; needs are so many that they cannot establish one course of action. Signing one or two of the primary free agents would make a difference. But if that can&#8217;t be accomplished, what then? Some possibilities the Mets have discussed follow:</p>
<p>• Pursue Cameron to play left field, thereby improving the outfield defense and adding some power. That would reduce Angel Pagan to a reserve role, which is what the club prefers. Chances are the Mets would want Cameron for one season, affording more time for Fernando Martinez to develop. </p>
<p>• Include Luis Castillo in a trade package and hope to fill a need with what they receive in return and then sign Hudson to play second base. The Mets believe that Castillo&#8217;s renaissance season and, in particular, his on-base average, .387, have made him attractive to other clubs. Hudson, who lost his second-base job with the Dodgers, is not likely to be pursued by too many clubs.</p>
<p>• Sign Glaus, a right-handed power hitter, to a conditional contract and have him available to share first base with Murphy and provide power off the bench. That would all but eliminate Delgado from the Mets&#8217; thoughts. But for now, the club is considering offering Delgado a conditional contract.</p>
<p>• Sign Wolf and package a starter on the Mets&#8217; roster &#8212; not Johan Santana, of course &#8212; to acquire a No. 2 starter or a slugging outfielder. </p>
<p>Marty Noble is a reporter for MLB.com</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Krieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary S.
The Brewers don&#039;t need to dump Fielder&#039;s salary of 10.5 million.  The payroll was 80million this year with money coming off for next year.  They are not dumping a 46 hr per year guy who makes 10.5 million</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary S.<br />
The Brewers don&#8217;t need to dump Fielder&#8217;s salary of 10.5 million.  The payroll was 80million this year with money coming off for next year.  They are not dumping a 46 hr per year guy who makes 10.5 million</p>
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