Comments on: Red Sox To Make Offer For Carlos Beltran? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran Fri, 25 May 2012 20:47:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Bob L http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31212 Bob L Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:32:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31212 i would trade Beltran to the BOSOX for Bucholz, whom i think is on the cusp of being a #1 or #2 starter, Ryan Kalish, LF, 22 next year, with a promising bat,and Fabian Williamson, 22 in October, 2010, a low A prospect with drooling potential. And substitute either solid-hitting Daniel Nava, 27 next year, OF, or Eammon Portice for Kalish. Portice will be 25 in '10, was in high A, and is a pitcher with interesting potential. Bucholz, however, must be in the deal. Beltran will be 33 next April, is injury-prone, and has likely peaked. i believe Theo Epstein would do the deal, and i think it would benefit the Mets over the next 1 - 3 years, and into the long term. i would trade Beltran to the BOSOX for Bucholz, whom i think is on the cusp of being a #1 or #2 starter, Ryan Kalish, LF, 22 next year, with a promising bat,and Fabian Williamson, 22 in October, 2010, a low A prospect with drooling potential. And substitute either solid-hitting Daniel Nava, 27 next year, OF, or Eammon Portice for Kalish. Portice will be 25 in ’10, was in high A, and is a pitcher with interesting potential. Bucholz, however, must be in the deal.
Beltran will be 33 next April, is injury-prone, and has likely peaked. i believe Theo Epstein would do the deal, and i think it would benefit the Mets over the next 1 – 3 years, and into the long term.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31194 theonlymaskman Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:52:32 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31194 Steve, We won't be getting Materson from the BoSox since he was traded to the Tribe a while back. But your idea is in the right direction. A good GM who strike a deal with the Sox. Ellsbury and Lester or Buckholz make a good target as long as we put the right pieces in. And think of striking a deal that involves Youkilis (fat chance, right?) Steve, We won’t be getting Materson from the BoSox since he was traded to the Tribe a while back. But your idea is in the right direction. A good GM who strike a deal with the Sox. Ellsbury and Lester or Buckholz make a good target as long as we put the right pieces in. And think of striking a deal that involves Youkilis (fat chance, right?)

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31193 METS62FAN Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:46:39 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31193 DON'T EVER WAKE UP FROM THAT DREAM WHERE THEO FELL ON HID HEAD. MAYBE HE'LL THROW IN TEDDY BASEBALL'S HEAD IF HE CAN LOCATE IT. DON’T EVER WAKE UP FROM THAT DREAM WHERE THEO FELL ON HID HEAD. MAYBE HE’LL THROW IN TEDDY BASEBALL’S HEAD IF HE CAN LOCATE IT.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31187 jdon Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:25:27 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31187 If I had to have Murphy in the lineup, I would hope he batted seventh or later. Getting good pitching is a great idea. Not complementing it with great infield defense kind of waters down a great idea. If I had to have Murphy in the lineup, I would hope he batted seventh or later. Getting good pitching is a great idea. Not complementing it with great infield defense kind of waters down a great idea.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31183 jdon Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:20:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31183 I would go for this if Wells had not out and out stunk. He not only isn't worth the money. He stinks. He is mailing it in. I would go for this if Wells had not out and out stunk. He not only isn’t worth the money. He stinks. He is mailing it in.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31135 METS62FAN Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:54:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31135 JDON, THE REDICULOUSNESS OF DISCUSSING AN ITEM THE AUTHOR CLEARLY LABELED AS NOTHING BETTER TO WRITE SPECULATION IS TRUE FOLLY. WHATEVER U THINK OF THE FRONTOFFICE IT'S TRUE THEY WOULD NEVER GET THE BETTER END OF DEALING BELTRAN AT THIS JUNCTURE. ARGUABLY THIS TEAM IS 2 ACQUIRABLE PLAYERS AWAY FROM BEING THE BEST THAY'VE EVER BEEN. NOTICE I SAY ARGUABLY. LET'S DREAM FOR A MOMENT & ASSUME THEY SOMEHOW ACQUIRED HALLADAY & FIELDER. PLAUSABLE? NO. IMPOSSIBLE? AGAIN, NO! SO HOW DO U CONTEMPLATE DESTROYING A ROSTER THAT CLOSE? CAN'T TRADE FOR BOTH? OK. WHAT IF THEY TRADE FOR FIELDER & SIGN LACKEY GETTING HALLADAY LEVEL NUMBERS OUT OF LACKEY? STILL A FAVORITE, NO? JUST LIKE SPENDING MORE DOESN'T REDUCE YOUR DEBT. TAKING AWAY MORE DOESN'T COMPLETE YOUR HOLE-FILLED TEAM. JDON, THE REDICULOUSNESS OF DISCUSSING AN ITEM THE AUTHOR CLEARLY LABELED AS NOTHING BETTER TO WRITE SPECULATION IS TRUE FOLLY. WHATEVER U THINK OF THE FRONTOFFICE IT’S TRUE THEY WOULD NEVER GET THE BETTER END OF DEALING BELTRAN AT THIS JUNCTURE. ARGUABLY THIS TEAM IS 2 ACQUIRABLE PLAYERS AWAY FROM BEING THE BEST THAY’VE EVER BEEN. NOTICE I SAY ARGUABLY. LET’S DREAM FOR A MOMENT & ASSUME THEY SOMEHOW ACQUIRED HALLADAY & FIELDER. PLAUSABLE? NO. IMPOSSIBLE? AGAIN, NO! SO HOW DO U CONTEMPLATE DESTROYING A ROSTER THAT CLOSE? CAN’T TRADE FOR BOTH? OK. WHAT IF THEY TRADE FOR FIELDER & SIGN LACKEY GETTING HALLADAY LEVEL NUMBERS OUT OF LACKEY? STILL A FAVORITE, NO?
JUST LIKE SPENDING MORE DOESN’T REDUCE YOUR DEBT. TAKING AWAY MORE DOESN’T COMPLETE YOUR HOLE-FILLED TEAM.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31100 steve Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:16:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31100 I think only a good Gm would look to trade a player like Beltran.You have to have 1 oeye on the future and 1 eye on the now.I wouldn't close anydoors.What if we offered Beltran for Ellsbury and Lester and Masterson.We would add a proven starter centerfielder and closer of the future.We also would save some money while getting younger.That we could spend on Lackey and Holliday. Santana-lackey-lester-pelfrey-maine not bad at all How about ellsbury-castillo-reyes-holliday-wright-murphy-francour-barajas. I think only a good Gm would look to trade a player like Beltran.You have to have 1 oeye on the future and 1 eye on the now.I wouldn’t close anydoors.What if we offered Beltran for Ellsbury and Lester and Masterson.We would add a proven starter centerfielder and closer of the future.We also would save some money while getting younger.That we could spend on Lackey and Holliday.
Santana-lackey-lester-pelfrey-maine not bad at all
How about ellsbury-castillo-reyes-holliday-wright-murphy-francour-barajas.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31098 steve Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:10:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31098 i like your idea but Toronto should pay some of Wells contract. i like your idea but Toronto should pay some of Wells contract.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31094 theonlymaskman Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:10:04 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31094 " Remember you don’t know what Reyes is going to be anymore"... Neither do the Red Sox, so this ain't flying. They're not about to toss Pedroia in a trade that has Reyes in it with only one leg that works. Do you remember it's Theo calling the shots? ” Remember you don’t know what Reyes is going to be anymore”…

Neither do the Red Sox, so this ain’t flying. They’re not about to toss Pedroia in a trade that has Reyes in it with only one leg that works. Do you remember it’s Theo calling the shots?

]]> By: Young Swoboda http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31093 Young Swoboda Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:52:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31093 Pedroia and Elsbury for Reyes and Beltran. But they have to throw in a good pitching prospect since Reyes and Beltran are considered top star and Elsbury hardly is. You think its crazy? We get younger, less injury prone and get talent that fits 'the Cavern' (aka Wilpon's Dodger Folly). We'd have the talent to win now provided of course we get the solid # 2 starter and Holiday in left. Remember you don't know what Reyes is going to be anymore and Beltran is still good but beat-up. Pedroia and Elsbury for Reyes and Beltran. But they have to throw in a good pitching prospect since Reyes and Beltran are considered top star and Elsbury hardly is. You think its crazy? We get younger, less injury prone and get talent that fits ‘the Cavern’ (aka Wilpon’s Dodger Folly). We’d have the talent to win now provided of course we get the solid # 2 starter and Holiday in left. Remember you don’t know what Reyes is going to be anymore and Beltran is still good but beat-up.

]]> By: Greg from Brooklyn http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31091 Greg from Brooklyn Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:32:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31091 Good!!!! Hopefully trading Beltran,Reyes nad Wright is a non issue. All we need is a left fielder (Nady?), a first baseman (Fielder? Ike Davis?) a number 2 AND 3 starter and a bench that doesn't consist of Omar Miniya's distant relatives from sandlots in the D.R. If we make a trade with the Redsox, let it be Omar Minya with a copy of how to be a GM for dummies, Oliver Perez, and Mike Pelfry along with a case of lithium, prozac, and depakote, a bottle of tums for Terry Francona and $10 million cash for the pain, suffering, and ineptitude the the Redsox will experience from that trio......for Theo Epstein. Good!!!!
Hopefully trading Beltran,Reyes nad Wright is a non issue.

All we need is a left fielder (Nady?), a first baseman (Fielder? Ike Davis?) a number 2 AND 3 starter and a bench that doesn’t consist of Omar Miniya’s distant relatives from sandlots in the D.R.

If we make a trade with the Redsox, let it be Omar Minya with a copy of how to be a GM for dummies, Oliver Perez, and Mike Pelfry along with a case of lithium, prozac, and depakote, a bottle of tums for Terry Francona and $10 million cash for the pain, suffering, and ineptitude the the Redsox will experience from that trio……for Theo Epstein.

]]> By: Ace http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31085 Ace Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:48:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31085 Exactly!! Exactly!!

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31080 jdon Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:10:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31080 He really can't be a met for life if he has already been a KC Royal. What is the point of having him hobbling around? That is why other teams regard our organization as a laughing stock. We do things for all the wrong reasons. There is only one right reason: build a winning organization. He really can’t be a met for life if he has already been a KC Royal. What is the point of having him hobbling around? That is why other teams regard our organization as a laughing stock. We do things for all the wrong reasons. There is only one right reason: build a winning organization.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31078 jdon Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:38:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31078 So many people have te same reaction: that Omar is not the guy to do it. It is so depressing to think of him being here another year. So many people have te same reaction: that Omar is not the guy to do it. It is so depressing to think of him being here another year.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31077 jdon Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:36:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31077 Who cares about Pagan and Castillo? Don't talk to me about two baseball non-entities. One is a moron and the other is a statue. They are flotsam and jetsam--you do not plan a future with them in mind. This team is going nowhere with them. I like Beltran but I am on record as being in favor of trading him because you trade a guy before he goes into decline. That is what winning organizations do. mets organizations don't. winning ones do. It's time they started doing the things that winners do. I think Beltran is either shot or this close to being shot. Let him go to Boston and DH some of the time. Maybe he has a couple of years left. But this team is more than a couple away. My only qualifier for trading him? King's ransom. I am not sure Omar and Jeffie could get that. Ellsbury is not enough. A couple of top prospects and Ellsbury, one of them being a starting pitcher, and I might go for it. I just do not trust the current management to get the right deal. Who cares about Pagan and Castillo? Don’t talk to me about two baseball non-entities. One is a moron and the other is a statue. They are flotsam and jetsam–you do not plan a future with them in mind. This team is going nowhere with them. I like Beltran but I am on record as being in favor of trading him because you trade a guy before he goes into decline. That is what winning organizations do. mets organizations don’t. winning ones do. It’s time they started doing the things that winners do. I think Beltran is either shot or this close to being shot. Let him go to Boston and DH some of the time. Maybe he has a couple of years left. But this team is more than a couple away. My only qualifier for trading him? King’s ransom. I am not sure Omar and Jeffie could get that. Ellsbury is not enough. A couple of top prospects and Ellsbury, one of them being a starting pitcher, and I might go for it. I just do not trust the current management to get the right deal.

]]> By: Jonathan C http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31076 Jonathan C Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:26:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31076 U mean the guy who got us Delgado for Mike Jacobs, Angel Pagan for almost nothing, Santana for 4 guys, 3 of which will probably never amount to much. Overall, I think Omar has done better for himself than the 2 slobs that preceded him. I think we lost on the Wagner deal, but I think that had more to do with the ownership, than Omar. U mean the guy who got us Delgado for Mike Jacobs, Angel Pagan for almost nothing, Santana for 4 guys, 3 of which will probably never amount to much. Overall, I think Omar has done better for himself than the 2 slobs that preceded him.

I think we lost on the Wagner deal, but I think that had more to do with the ownership, than Omar.

]]> By: Flushing Kid http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31075 Flushing Kid Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:26:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31075 You're in luck HoJo. The Boston Herald shot down that rumor. http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2009/10/26/beltran-not-an-option-for-sox-or-anyone-else/ And here is part of the article. A major-league source said that the Mets would not even entertain the idea of trading Beltran. The Mets are instead giving every indication that they will be active in adding pieces this offseason (New York is expected to get involved in the markets for Bay and/or Matt Holliday). Given that likelihood, it would not make sense for the team to deal one of its best players. Beltran is coming off a season in which he missed 2.5 months with a bone bruise on his right knee. When healthy, he performed at an elite level, hitting .325 with a .360 OBP, .496 slugging mark, 10 homers and 11 steals (in 12 attempts) while playing in 81 games. You’re in luck HoJo. The Boston Herald shot down that rumor.

http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2009/10/26/beltran-not-an-option-for-sox-or-anyone-else/

And here is part of the article.

A major-league source said that the Mets would not even entertain the idea of trading Beltran. The Mets are instead giving every indication that they will be active in adding pieces this offseason (New York is expected to get involved in the markets for Bay and/or Matt Holliday). Given that likelihood, it would not make sense for the team to deal one of its best players.

Beltran is coming off a season in which he missed 2.5 months with a bone bruise on his right knee. When healthy, he performed at an elite level, hitting .325 with a .360 OBP, .496 slugging mark, 10 homers and 11 steals (in 12 attempts) while playing in 81 games.

]]> By: Ace http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31069 Ace Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:12:45 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31069 Exactly, I'd hope that Omar doesn't try to match wits with Theo, we could lose Beltran for a couple of "prospects". Exactly, I’d hope that Omar doesn’t try to match wits with Theo, we could lose Beltran for a couple of “prospects”.

]]> By: mrmetfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31067 mrmetfan Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:34:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31067 my thoughts exactly! I agree with Kelly forget trading him, we should make him a met for the rest of his career =) I can't believe there's only two years left on his current contract... my thoughts exactly! I agree with Kelly forget trading him, we should make him a met for the rest of his career =) I can’t believe there’s only two years left on his current contract…

]]> By: LGM!!! http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/red-sox-to-make-offer-for-carlos-beltran.html#comment-31066 LGM!!! Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:12:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14991#comment-31066 Bayonne, don't be a jerk. Bayonne, don’t be a jerk.

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