If we do give him a new contract, you can have most of the money going into the later part of the contract, as are many long term contracts. save some money for this year and use it for something useful. Let everyone say what they have to but this guy handles the red sox like no one else. and that my friends, is no easy task.

now take away the dh and put the the pitcher in the lineup…. he will do a great job going from AL to NL. this team can pull this off

Few certainties exist, but I like your confidence; sustains me over the long winter.

Obviously I hope I’m wrong, they sign him and Roy’s biometrics lead us to the promised land. Would there be room to make other moves after signing him though? And it does nothing to fix the lackadaisical play under Manuel, or the rest of the staff regressing under Warthen.

I know the farm isn’t great, but with Halladay you’d still have to give up the best of a bad lot. They could have gone after Sabathia without having to give up anything.

Trading for Halladay just seems like a reactionary, Yankee-lite move… except they’ve got deeper pockets and a better farm system. I’m in more of a WWTD (What Would The Twins Do?) mindset, because why the hell is Carlos Gomez scoring the winning run in game 163 while we’re all picking through the emotional big-market wreckage of the 2009 Mets?

I think all of you have forgotten that the Mets were second in the league in batting trailing only the Dodgers.

Also, Santana got more run support than Halladay, Zach Grienke and Chris Carpenter.

Johan Santana was always one notch worse than the other teams ace in most of his starts. While that pitcher found a way to win, Santana didn’t. Halladay is a bigger warrior than Santana and in fact would be the ace bumpibng Santana to number two. An ace should be able to deliver complete games when everything is on the line, Santana is not capable and further more he lost velocity 4 straight seasons and we dont even know how much worse he will be after surgery.

John Maine had the same remiving bone fragments surgery and wasn’t ready in the spring and missed almost an entire season. And his was the shoulder, NOT the elbow which is more serious.

Right now, Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball bar none.

The Yankees knew they had to back up Sabathia and sign A.J. Burnett too. Thats why they are the first class operation that they are. Do you think Brian Cashman would have ever mistaken Mike Pelfrey as a number two pitcher?

Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain who are a thousand times better than Pelfrey were never considered for more than the number five spot in the Yankee rotation and right now neither of them are even in the rotation.

This team needs Halladay more than you think we do. Especially when Johan shows up with a sore elbow thanks to scar tissue which will cause him to lose more velocity like others before him.

I guess than you can proclaim Jon Niese your ace when that happens.

The Mets havent developed an 18 game winner since Dwight gooden two decades agaon, and Minaya has been the worst minor leage drafter in team history with not one hit in over 200 selections.

To suggest that keeping Jon Niese, Bobby Parnell and any other Mets prospect all with sub 4.00 ERAs in Class-AA over Doc Halladay because of age, is absolutely insane.

All of a sudden 32 is old?? For a pitcher with the most fluid delivery in baseball? Lincecum and Verlander will both have tommy john surgeries before Halladay loses his effectiveness. Nobody puts less of a strain on his arm than Halladay. Look at his biometrics! He’ll pitch till he’s 40 like other similar pitchers. You dont think Halladay has 5 top years in him?? In the NL??? Really??? Wow, just wow!

In 09 he revamped the bullpen, but ignored a glaring hole in RF and LF and C.

Now his ass is on the line and he admits he needs a power bat, another top of the rotation starter and a setup man. His words not mine. Personally I cant stand Omar, but even his dumb ass realizes that his one stud an off season plan was an epic FAIL!

I won’t get into a flame war over this. Johan wasn’t the missing link to the brass ring and neither will Doc.

imo

and that count for nothing with anyone else but me

Felicano, Green and Parnell were all in the top 15 in appearances!!! Feliciano actually set some sort of a record for appearances and he led the league two years in a row!!!

Bridges???

Go do your homework before you post such nonsense again.

Other issues…

SS, 2B, bench, manager and coaches are issues??

Concerns maybe, but issues??

How are you going to fix the manager issue when manuel is the manager? Are you going to trade him for Prince Fielder?

Smarten up dude, and focus on what can be changed not on what wonty be changed.

You must be the only living person that calls adding Halladay a bad move.

Like I said when Cytana was attained (for a dollar and a dream), the team still needs bridges … not “a bridge”; BRIDGES … to get the ball into the hands of their Closer (at the time it was Wagner, now K-Rod).

I told anyone who would listen that as amazing as he is … and he IS … Johan already had 2K innings on his arm; he was now going to have to get into the Batter’s Box; potentially run bases; … and have to go at least 7-8 innings in order for the team to see the best dividends of having one of our generation’s best pitchers.

None of that changes by adding Doc.
… and I don’t think the Jays new GM will be bamboozled into taking anything close to what the Twins took for Johan.

… then there’s the other issues:
1B
2B
SS
C
LF
Bench
Manager
Coaches

… it’s like deja vu all over again