Comments on: Jeff Wilpon Takes No Responsibility http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html A New York Mets Blog For Diehard Mets Fans Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:17:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29784 METS62FAN Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:33:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29784 MASK U R RIGHT; BUT I WASN'T CONSIDERING A DEALING A PLAYER WITH A HIGH SALARY AND NOTHING TO ADD AS A "DUMP", RATHER I TAKE A MORE CONSERVATIVE, CONVENTIONAL DEFINITION LIKE JAYS TRYING TO DEAL HALLADAY IN '09 WAS A DUMP ATTEMPT. ATLANTA'S DEALING TEX TO ANAHEIM WAS A DUMP. I EQUATE THE WAGNER MOVE TO THE UNLOADINGS DUQUETTE DID WITH BENITEZ,ZEILLE,VENTURA,BURNITZ. IN MY OPINION, MOVING WAGS OFF A TEAM GOING NOWHERRE WITH BARELY ENOUGH CLOSE GAMES T KEEP K-ROD WARM AS A PRUDENT MOVE THAT FAVORED A VALUED PLAYER BY GIVING HIM A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR JEWELRY HE'D NOT HAD BEFORE. SYMANTICS. U'D HAVE CRITICISM WITH FINDING A PONY IN A CRAP PILE BECAUSE U'D HAVE TO FEED IT. MASK U R RIGHT; BUT I WASN’T CONSIDERING A DEALING A PLAYER WITH A HIGH SALARY AND NOTHING TO ADD AS A “DUMP”, RATHER I TAKE A MORE CONSERVATIVE, CONVENTIONAL DEFINITION LIKE JAYS TRYING TO DEAL HALLADAY IN ’09 WAS A DUMP ATTEMPT. ATLANTA’S DEALING TEX TO ANAHEIM WAS A DUMP. I EQUATE THE WAGNER MOVE TO THE UNLOADINGS DUQUETTE DID WITH BENITEZ,ZEILLE,VENTURA,BURNITZ.
IN MY OPINION, MOVING WAGS OFF A TEAM GOING NOWHERRE WITH BARELY ENOUGH CLOSE GAMES T KEEP K-ROD WARM AS A PRUDENT MOVE THAT FAVORED A VALUED PLAYER BY GIVING HIM A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR JEWELRY HE’D NOT HAD BEFORE.
SYMANTICS. U’D HAVE CRITICISM WITH FINDING A PONY IN A CRAP PILE BECAUSE U’D HAVE TO FEED IT.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29777 theonlymaskman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:11:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29777 JDON, You make a very good point. Omar's incentive for this coming season is simply survival. He will adopt short term expediency over long term benefit. So more than likely, we wll be seeing some more typical Omar moves. Unfortunately, the splashy headline only lasts a day, but a deal that goes bad once the rot takes over weighs down the team for years to come. For evidence, I cite Ollie and Putz as examples. The handwriting was on the wall if you looked beneath the covers, but Omar opted for a day in the sunlight at the expense of the future. What we need is intelligent decisions by knowledgeable baseball people rather than flawed ones made by an incompetent trying to hold onto his cushy position which is way over his limited ability. This offseason will be very interesting and I hope that Omar proves me wrong, but it's doubtful he will. JDON, You make a very good point. Omar’s incentive for this coming season is simply survival. He will adopt short term expediency over long term benefit. So more than likely, we wll be seeing some more typical Omar moves. Unfortunately, the splashy headline only lasts a day, but a deal that goes bad once the rot takes over weighs down the team for years to come. For evidence, I cite Ollie and Putz as examples. The handwriting was on the wall if you looked beneath the covers, but Omar opted for a day in the sunlight at the expense of the future. What we need is intelligent decisions by knowledgeable baseball people rather than flawed ones made by an incompetent trying to hold onto his cushy position which is way over his limited ability. This offseason will be very interesting and I hope that Omar proves me wrong, but it’s doubtful he will.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29776 theonlymaskman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:58:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29776 62, You asked for a name and I gave it to you. Then you don't like the answer and write it off with your personal assumptions. You say Wags had no job and no potential? Seems like he did pretty well for a team like the Red Sox who are sporting a prettty good pitching staff these days. It was a salary dump pure and simple with plenty of "avarice" to it putting $3.5 mil in the owner's pockets. You can't just always have it your way. Were you a spoiled only child as a kid? Seems like it. 62, You asked for a name and I gave it to you. Then you don’t like the answer and write it off with your personal assumptions. You say Wags had no job and no potential? Seems like he did pretty well for a team like the Red Sox who are sporting a prettty good pitching staff these days. It was a salary dump pure and simple with plenty of “avarice” to it putting $3.5 mil in the owner’s pockets. You can’t just always have it your way. Were you a spoiled only child as a kid? Seems like it.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29775 METS62FAN Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:38:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29775 MASK, BS WAGS DIDN'T HAVE A JOB WITH NYM FOR 3 YRS. HE'D NEVER AGREE TO SETUP BEING SO CLOSE TO BREAKING FRANCO'S RECORD SAVES FOR LH CLOSER. WHY PAY 3M TO A PLAYER WITH NO JOB & NO POTENTIAL TO ALTER TEAM'S OUTCOME. EXCELLENT BUSINESS DECISION NOT A DETRACTION CAUSED BY AVARICE. MASK, BS WAGS DIDN’T HAVE A JOB WITH NYM FOR 3 YRS. HE’D NEVER AGREE TO SETUP BEING SO CLOSE TO BREAKING FRANCO’S RECORD SAVES FOR LH CLOSER.
WHY PAY 3M TO A PLAYER WITH NO JOB & NO POTENTIAL TO ALTER TEAM’S OUTCOME. EXCELLENT BUSINESS DECISION NOT A DETRACTION CAUSED BY AVARICE.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29770 METS62FAN Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:45:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29770 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION JDON, EXACTLY WHAT IS IT U THINK OMAR SHOULD DO? WITH 2 VERY INTYRIGUING TRADE TARGETS OOT THERE IN CRAWFORD & HALLADAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE U PREFER PASSING ON BOTH. ARE U A PROPONENT OF MR. PEABODY'S WAYBACK MACHINE? WHEN IT COMES TO SETTING PRIORITIES IN NY, THE MLB CLUB SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE PRECEDENCE, NOT THE MILB SYSTEM; DON'T KNOW'BOUT U; BUT THERE ISN'T A GUARANTEED PRODSPECT OUT THERE ANYWHERE IN MLB. PROSPECTS ARE ONLY VALUABLE AS TRADE FODDER. ONCE THEY MAKE "THE SHOW" THEIR PROSPECT STATUS FALLS OFF & THEY'RE NOW PART OF A SOLUTION, HOPFULLY. F-MART, IKE DAVIS,BRAD HOLT ARE SUPPOSEDLY SOME OF OUR BEST, YET EACH IS JUST 1 APPEARANCE FROM MAJOR INJURY THAT TURNS OUT THE LIGHTS OF A PROMISING CAREER. IN 2005, OMAR INHERITED A FRANCHISE, WHO'S ONLY PROSPECT WAS LASTINGS MILLEDGE. REYES & WRIGHT WERE ALREADY PROMOTED,KAZMIR & ESCOBAR, DEALT. U WERE ABSOLUTLY CORRECT IN ASSUMING WE MAY LOSE OUR TO FIRST ROUND PICK DUE TO OWNERSHIP RULES FOR ADHERING TO COMMISSIONER'S SLOTTING GUIDELINES U WANT TO BLAME OMAR FOR THAT? OWNERSHIP PLAYS THE MUSIC, GMs DANCE TO THE TUNES, THAT'S TRUE ON EVERY SINGLE SPORTS FRANCHISE I EVER HEARD OF. AS A FAN WE GET TO LISTEN & WATCH THE SHOW OR TURN IT OFF & LOOK ELSEWHERE. I DAMNED WELL HOPE OMAR DOES GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRADE "THE FARM" AS U PUT IT; BUT ONLY IF A CRAWFORD OR HALLADAY IS RETURNED. OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHO WERE THE PROSPECTS DEALT FOR PIAZZA? DO WE CARE? YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE "PATCHING". WELL U EITHER PATCH OR THE ALTERNATIVE IS BECOMING A FORMER CONTENDER TURNED INCONSEQUENTIAL LIKE PITTSBURGH,CINCY,KC OR YOU WIND UP COMMITING 200M IN PAYROLL IN BANKRUPTCY COURT. OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES I VOTE FOR PATCHING WITH BEST SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE. CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
JDON, EXACTLY WHAT IS IT U THINK OMAR SHOULD DO? WITH 2 VERY INTYRIGUING TRADE TARGETS OOT THERE IN CRAWFORD & HALLADAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE U PREFER PASSING ON BOTH. ARE U A PROPONENT OF MR. PEABODY’S WAYBACK MACHINE? WHEN IT COMES TO SETTING PRIORITIES IN NY, THE MLB CLUB SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE PRECEDENCE, NOT THE MILB SYSTEM; DON’T KNOW’BOUT U; BUT THERE ISN’T A GUARANTEED PRODSPECT OUT THERE ANYWHERE IN MLB. PROSPECTS ARE ONLY VALUABLE AS TRADE FODDER. ONCE THEY MAKE “THE SHOW” THEIR PROSPECT STATUS FALLS OFF & THEY’RE NOW PART OF A SOLUTION, HOPFULLY. F-MART, IKE DAVIS,BRAD HOLT ARE SUPPOSEDLY SOME OF OUR BEST, YET EACH IS JUST 1 APPEARANCE FROM MAJOR INJURY THAT TURNS OUT THE LIGHTS OF A PROMISING CAREER. IN 2005, OMAR INHERITED A FRANCHISE, WHO’S ONLY PROSPECT WAS LASTINGS MILLEDGE. REYES & WRIGHT WERE ALREADY PROMOTED,KAZMIR & ESCOBAR, DEALT.
U WERE ABSOLUTLY CORRECT IN ASSUMING WE MAY LOSE OUR TO FIRST ROUND PICK DUE TO OWNERSHIP RULES FOR ADHERING TO COMMISSIONER’S SLOTTING GUIDELINES U WANT TO BLAME OMAR FOR THAT? OWNERSHIP PLAYS THE MUSIC, GMs DANCE TO THE TUNES, THAT’S TRUE ON EVERY SINGLE SPORTS FRANCHISE I EVER HEARD OF. AS A FAN WE GET TO LISTEN & WATCH THE SHOW OR TURN IT OFF & LOOK ELSEWHERE.
I DAMNED WELL HOPE OMAR DOES GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRADE “THE FARM” AS U PUT IT; BUT ONLY IF A CRAWFORD OR HALLADAY IS RETURNED. OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHO WERE THE PROSPECTS DEALT FOR PIAZZA? DO WE CARE? YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE “PATCHING”. WELL U EITHER PATCH OR THE ALTERNATIVE IS BECOMING A FORMER CONTENDER TURNED INCONSEQUENTIAL LIKE PITTSBURGH,CINCY,KC OR YOU WIND UP COMMITING 200M IN PAYROLL IN BANKRUPTCY COURT. OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES I VOTE FOR PATCHING WITH BEST SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29769 jdon Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:57:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29769 Confession may be good for the soul but it does not make you a better GM or a better COO. Just saying "I take responsibility" should not entitle you to repeat your mistakes. I cannot be optimistic about anything with Omar making the call. He is a laughing stock among GMs. But I suppose Jeffie is too. Jeff sounded like what he is: a spoiled rich boy whose Daddy gave him a team to play with. He is clearly not a heavyweight. Not firing a disgrace like Jerry tells me that Omar is hanging by his thumbs. Bringing in a new guy would be counterproductve since a new GM would want his own manager. Met fans do not deserve so precarious a management situation. Both of these guys should be gone so people around the team can breath again, instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Does anyone think Omar will not rip the farm system apart to keep his job? The same farm system he called "very good" a few months ago he called "average" in the interview. Do these guys ever stop lying? Is he going to sign a few Type A free agents? Is he going to trade what few prospects we have? You betcha. We will lose a draft pick if he signs more than one, will we not? Will we go over slot for our number 7 pick this year? Does Omar even care about that? He has no incentive to build the farm system up with his job hanging by a thread. The Mets are back to patching... patching.. patching. No plan. Just survival. Confession may be good for the soul but it does not make you a better GM or a better COO. Just saying “I take responsibility” should not entitle you to repeat your mistakes. I cannot be optimistic about anything with Omar making the call. He is a laughing stock among GMs. But I suppose Jeffie is too. Jeff sounded like what he is: a spoiled rich boy whose Daddy gave him a team to play with. He is clearly not a heavyweight. Not firing a disgrace like Jerry tells me that Omar is hanging by his thumbs. Bringing in a new guy would be counterproductve since a new GM would want his own manager. Met fans do not deserve so precarious a management situation. Both of these guys should be gone so people around the team can breath again, instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Does anyone think Omar will not rip the farm system apart to keep his job? The same farm system he called “very good” a few months ago he called “average” in the interview. Do these guys ever stop lying? Is he going to sign a few Type A free agents? Is he going to trade what few prospects we have? You betcha. We will lose a draft pick if he signs more than one, will we not? Will we go over slot for our number 7 pick this year? Does Omar even care about that? He has no incentive to build the farm system up with his job hanging by a thread. The Mets are back to patching… patching.. patching. No plan. Just survival.

]]> By: Ace http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29763 Ace Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:09:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29763 Great point on Santanna. I don't understand how that was the fault of other teams doctors. I think they did alot of positive talking.....but same old crew making decisions Great point on Santanna. I don’t understand how that was the fault of other teams doctors. I think they did alot of positive talking…..but same old crew making decisions

]]> By: Greg Pomes http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29755 Greg Pomes Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:18:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29755 I just didn't hear anything positive. They fired 1 coach who didn't really affect the team, Sandy Alomar's reassignment does not really hurt or help this team. The 2 coaches they should have fired, HoJo and Warthen are still with the team. I know the Mets as a team had a good BA and a good OBP but their situational hitting was horrible this season and since he has become the hitting coach. Wright changing his swing obviously didn't work. The pitchers did not perform better, in fact they got worse and how did Warthen not know Santana was in pain? That is his job to look out for his pitchers. I just didn’t hear anything positive. They fired 1 coach who didn’t really affect the team, Sandy Alomar’s reassignment does not really hurt or help this team. The 2 coaches they should have fired, HoJo and Warthen are still with the team. I know the Mets as a team had a good BA and a good OBP but their situational hitting was horrible this season and since he has become the hitting coach. Wright changing his swing obviously didn’t work. The pitchers did not perform better, in fact they got worse and how did Warthen not know Santana was in pain? That is his job to look out for his pitchers.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29728 theonlymaskman Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:08:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29728 Keep the Dolans out of here! Let's go with The Donald and Seinfeld in a new alliance of money, creativity, and achievement. Jerry S will make sure things are great for Mets fans because he is as real a fan as there is. Keep the Dolans out of here! Let’s go with The Donald and Seinfeld in a new alliance of money, creativity, and achievement. Jerry S will make sure things are great for Mets fans because he is as real a fan as there is.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29727 theonlymaskman Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:06:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29727 WHEN WAS LAST TOP PLAYER MOVED FOR SALARY REASONS ON NYM? Let's see I remember Wags being move about 3 weeks ago for salary reasons! The rest of your note is inomprehensible and no one can fathom your point whatever it is. WHEN WAS LAST TOP PLAYER MOVED FOR SALARY REASONS ON NYM?

Let’s see I remember Wags being move about 3 weeks ago for salary reasons! The rest of your note is inomprehensible and no one can fathom your point whatever it is.

]]> By: Bayonne Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29723 Bayonne Mets Fan Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:44:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29723 Dude, knock it off with the filibustering - i ain't gonna read this stuff. Just make your point Dude,
knock it off with the filibustering – i ain’t gonna read this stuff.
Just make your point

]]> By: Ace http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29722 Ace Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:39:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29722 assumptions...assumptions...assumptions assumptions…assumptions…assumptions

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29719 METS62FAN Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:14:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29719 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION FINALLY, ANOTHER SANE VOICE WITH PERSPECTIVE. I'VE BEEN LABELED A LOT OF THINGS ON THIS SITE DUE TO MY PRO-OMAR PERSPECTIVE. SORRY, TO SAY THIS; BUT I'S A FACT IN THE 21st CENTURY, BASEBALL IS NOT AMERICA'S PASTIME ANY LONGER. THE DEATH OF BASEBALL IN OUR INNERCITIES, FOR A LOT OF VARIED REASONS HAS SPELLED DOOM FOR TRADITIONALLTY AMERICAN PROSPECTS(WHITE & AFRO-AMERICAN, ALIKE) FOOTBALL & BASKETBALL ARE PLAYED MUCH MORE BY AMERICAN YOUTH & ARE QUICKER METHODS TOWARDS RICHES/PRO LEVELS. LATIN AMERICA IS WHERE THE TOP YOUNG BASEBALL PROSPECTS ARE APLENTY. A LATIN AMERICAN APPROACH TO TEAM BUILDING ISN'T A NEGATIVE; BUT A POSITIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.(TRY LOOKING AT NASTIONALITY OF TOP MLB PLAYERS TODAY) FOR THE RECORD I'M A NATIVE NYer, WHITE AMERICAN OF IRISH-ITALIAN DESCENT AND A MET FAN SINCE '62 MARRIED TO A NICE JEWISH GIRL FROM L.A. I DO HAVE ONE CRITICISM OF OMAR FOR '09 AS HE WAS TOO LATE IN IDENTIFYING THE SEASON'S ABSENCE OF MAJOR PLAYERS WHICH MEANT HE COVETED HIS $14M NESTEGG FOR ACQUIRING EITHER HALLADAY OR HOLIDAY BEYOND THE ABILITY TO SPEND SOME ON TEMPORARY STOPGAP FIXES TO APPEASE THE SCREAMING MASSES. ALL WOULD BE FOR NOUGHT SINCE BY 7/31 EVEN ADDING A LINCICUM,PUJOLS OR RAMIREZ WOULD NOT HAVE PUT THEM IN THE PLAYOFFS. ACQUIRING A HOLIDAY,DiROSA,LEE AS SOME SHORTSIGHTED FANS WANTED, CERTAINLY WOULDN'T DO IT EITHER. I FOR ONE, BELIEVE THE REPLACEMENTS WERE TOO OFTEN OUT-TALENTED BY OPPONENTS; RARELY IF EVER OUT HUSTLED. THEY CAN POSSIBLY; WITH LUCK FIX THIS. PKG 2 OR 3 SP WITH 2 OR 3 POSITIONAL PROSPECTS TO TORONTO FOR HALADAY(15.75M) ACQUIRE CRAWFORD,HOLIDAY OR BAY FOR LF, MOLINA AS #1C CAN ALL BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT LUXURY TAX INCURMENT. PATIENCE WILL BE A VIRTUE IN A DOWN, SLOW F/A MKT & OFFSEASON. HIGHEST TEAM BA IN NL, HIGHEST TEAM BA W/RISP IN NL AND FEWEST BATTERS STRIKING OUT IN MLB CERTAINLY SPEAK WELL OF HOJO ESP WITH SO MANY REPLACEMENTS. GIVE WARTHEN FULL ST & SEASON WITH MAINE & PEREZ. GIVE PELF TIME TO CHANGE BACK TO HEATER/CURVE FROM SINKER/SLIDER. GIVE THEM ALL AN AGGRESSIVE, VETERAN, TAKE-CHARGE CATCHER. SEE THE DIFFERENCE. U CAN'T TEACH RAW TALENT OR 93+ STUFF. LESS THAN TWO THIRDS OF 162G STARTED BY INITIAL ROTATION OF: SANTANA-PELFREY-PEREZ-MAINE-REDDING METS HAVE NO SEPTH UNDER OMAR? WHER'D 4 SS,4 CATCHERS, MYRIAD OF LF & 1B ALONG WITH 12 SP COME FROM? WHO'S YANKS #4 SS? OR ATLANTA'S OR PHILLIES' NO NOT TRADITIONAL YOUNG PROSPECTS; BUT HE DIDN'T START WITH ANY AFTER PHILLIPS/DUQUETTE LEFT.(MILLEDGE-SOLE POSITIONAL PROSPECT) POSITIONAL TRADES IMPORTED: DELGADO,NADY,CHURCH,SCHNEIDER,FRANCOUER FOR NOTHING WE EVER REALLY MISSED. BTW. PETERSON WAS IN CHARGE OF ALL PITCHING MOVEMENT DECISIONS PER JEFF WILPON HIRING HIM AS GURU. I HATE WILPON RULES; BUT STILL BETTER THAN PITTSBURGH,CINCY,KC,ATL (ALL FORMER PERENNIAL CONTENDERS ON THE ROCKS)OWNERSHIP. WHEN WAS LAST TOP PLAYER MOVED FOR SALARY REASONS ON NYM? CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
FINALLY, ANOTHER SANE VOICE WITH PERSPECTIVE. I’VE BEEN LABELED A LOT OF THINGS ON THIS SITE DUE TO MY PRO-OMAR PERSPECTIVE. SORRY, TO SAY THIS; BUT I’S A FACT IN THE 21st CENTURY, BASEBALL IS NOT AMERICA’S PASTIME ANY LONGER. THE DEATH OF BASEBALL IN OUR INNERCITIES, FOR A LOT OF VARIED REASONS HAS SPELLED DOOM FOR TRADITIONALLTY AMERICAN PROSPECTS(WHITE & AFRO-AMERICAN, ALIKE) FOOTBALL & BASKETBALL ARE PLAYED MUCH MORE BY AMERICAN YOUTH & ARE QUICKER METHODS TOWARDS RICHES/PRO LEVELS. LATIN AMERICA IS WHERE THE TOP YOUNG BASEBALL PROSPECTS ARE APLENTY. A LATIN AMERICAN APPROACH TO TEAM BUILDING ISN’T A NEGATIVE; BUT A POSITIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.(TRY LOOKING AT NASTIONALITY OF TOP MLB PLAYERS TODAY)
FOR THE RECORD I’M A NATIVE NYer, WHITE AMERICAN OF IRISH-ITALIAN DESCENT AND A MET FAN SINCE ’62 MARRIED TO A NICE JEWISH GIRL FROM L.A.
I DO HAVE ONE CRITICISM OF OMAR FOR ’09 AS HE WAS TOO LATE IN IDENTIFYING THE SEASON’S ABSENCE OF MAJOR PLAYERS WHICH MEANT HE COVETED HIS $14M NESTEGG FOR ACQUIRING EITHER HALLADAY OR HOLIDAY BEYOND THE ABILITY TO SPEND SOME ON TEMPORARY STOPGAP FIXES TO APPEASE THE SCREAMING MASSES. ALL WOULD BE FOR NOUGHT SINCE BY 7/31 EVEN ADDING A LINCICUM,PUJOLS OR RAMIREZ WOULD NOT HAVE PUT THEM IN THE PLAYOFFS. ACQUIRING A HOLIDAY,DiROSA,LEE AS SOME SHORTSIGHTED FANS WANTED, CERTAINLY WOULDN’T DO IT EITHER. I FOR ONE, BELIEVE THE REPLACEMENTS WERE TOO OFTEN OUT-TALENTED BY OPPONENTS; RARELY IF EVER OUT HUSTLED.
THEY CAN POSSIBLY; WITH LUCK FIX THIS. PKG 2 OR 3 SP WITH 2 OR 3 POSITIONAL PROSPECTS TO TORONTO FOR HALADAY(15.75M) ACQUIRE CRAWFORD,HOLIDAY OR BAY FOR LF, MOLINA AS #1C CAN ALL BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT LUXURY TAX INCURMENT. PATIENCE WILL BE A VIRTUE IN A DOWN, SLOW F/A MKT & OFFSEASON. HIGHEST TEAM BA IN NL, HIGHEST TEAM BA W/RISP IN NL AND FEWEST BATTERS STRIKING OUT IN MLB CERTAINLY SPEAK WELL OF HOJO ESP WITH SO MANY REPLACEMENTS.
GIVE WARTHEN FULL ST & SEASON WITH MAINE & PEREZ. GIVE PELF TIME TO CHANGE BACK TO HEATER/CURVE FROM SINKER/SLIDER. GIVE THEM ALL AN AGGRESSIVE, VETERAN, TAKE-CHARGE CATCHER. SEE THE DIFFERENCE. U CAN’T TEACH RAW TALENT OR 93+ STUFF.
LESS THAN TWO THIRDS OF 162G STARTED BY INITIAL ROTATION OF:
SANTANA-PELFREY-PEREZ-MAINE-REDDING
METS HAVE NO SEPTH UNDER OMAR? WHER’D 4 SS,4 CATCHERS, MYRIAD OF LF & 1B ALONG WITH 12 SP COME FROM? WHO’S YANKS #4 SS? OR ATLANTA’S OR PHILLIES’ NO NOT TRADITIONAL YOUNG PROSPECTS; BUT HE DIDN’T START WITH ANY AFTER PHILLIPS/DUQUETTE LEFT.(MILLEDGE-SOLE POSITIONAL PROSPECT)
POSITIONAL TRADES IMPORTED: DELGADO,NADY,CHURCH,SCHNEIDER,FRANCOUER FOR NOTHING WE EVER REALLY MISSED. BTW. PETERSON WAS IN CHARGE OF ALL PITCHING MOVEMENT DECISIONS PER JEFF WILPON HIRING HIM AS GURU.
I HATE WILPON RULES; BUT STILL BETTER THAN PITTSBURGH,CINCY,KC,ATL (ALL FORMER PERENNIAL CONTENDERS ON THE ROCKS)OWNERSHIP. WHEN WAS LAST TOP PLAYER MOVED FOR SALARY REASONS ON NYM?

]]> By: K Maxx http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29712 K Maxx Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:29:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29712 Agreed. And as for your math on the homerun numbers, you are spot on in your quick analysis. Agreed. And as for your math on the homerun numbers, you are spot on in your quick analysis.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29711 METS62FAN Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:27:27 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29711 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION FRED'S SMART TO STAY THE "OFFICIAL DENIER" THAT CAN CHANGE ANY PRIOR ANNOUNCEMENT BY OMAR OR JEFF AS A CLARIFICATING MESSAGE FROM "ON HIGH". FRED'S NOT REALLY INTO THE TEAM OTHER THAN AS A METHOD TO PAY HOMAGE TO DADDY'S MEMORY. WHEN DOUBLEDAY WAS PRIMARY OWNER, FRED WAS RARELY IF EVER SEEN. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE ANTI-BOSS. HIS BIGGEST PUBLIC OUTING WAS AS THE POINTMAN ON FIGHTING IMPLEMENTATION OF LUXURY TAX PENALTY WITH BOSS AT HIS SIDE & JUST BEHIND HIM. #1 MET RULE: NO LUXURY TAZX PAYMENTS. THAT'S THE REAL BUDGET FOR OMAR, ALWAYS HAS BEEN PHILLIPS GOT LESS & HAD TO BEGF FOR MORE SINCE FRED DIDN'T TRUST HIM TO STAY UNDER. HE TRUSTS OMAR CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
FRED’S SMART TO STAY THE “OFFICIAL DENIER” THAT CAN CHANGE ANY PRIOR ANNOUNCEMENT BY OMAR OR JEFF AS A CLARIFICATING MESSAGE FROM “ON HIGH”. FRED’S NOT REALLY INTO THE TEAM OTHER THAN AS A METHOD TO PAY HOMAGE TO DADDY’S MEMORY. WHEN DOUBLEDAY WAS PRIMARY OWNER, FRED WAS RARELY IF EVER SEEN. HE’S ALWAYS BEEN THE ANTI-BOSS. HIS BIGGEST PUBLIC OUTING WAS AS THE POINTMAN ON FIGHTING IMPLEMENTATION OF LUXURY TAX PENALTY WITH BOSS AT HIS SIDE & JUST BEHIND HIM. #1 MET RULE: NO LUXURY TAZX PAYMENTS. THAT’S THE REAL BUDGET FOR OMAR, ALWAYS HAS BEEN PHILLIPS GOT LESS & HAD TO BEGF FOR MORE SINCE FRED DIDN’T TRUST HIM TO STAY UNDER. HE TRUSTS OMAR

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29710 Kay Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:19:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29710 Yeah maybe the Dolans can buy the team because that would be SOOOOO much better......... Yeah maybe the Dolans can buy the team because that would be SOOOOO much better………

]]> By: Ceetar http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29707 Ceetar Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:44:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29707 Apparently UZR suggest Murphy is an excellent defensive first baseman, which just confirms what I've seen with my eyes. I think his biggest problem is mental, pressing type mistakes. And hopefully one's that will be improved with repetition and practice. You could even compare to Reyes, in that Reyes has never been a great instinctual/smart player, but he's learned and worked hard to know what he should do and when. Murphy was (basically) a rookie, forced to learn two positions (sometimes at the same time) in the majors, bounced around in two platoons as well as all over the lineup. Those 12 home runs become 15 projected to a 155-160 games started, and it'd be silly not to expect him to improve. If Wright hits 25, Beltran hits 25, Murphy hits 20, Reyes hits 7, Francouer/RF hits 10 or so, that's 90+. Sign a solid 30HR type LF and suddenly the Mets aren't exactly strapped for power. Apparently UZR suggest Murphy is an excellent defensive first baseman, which just confirms what I’ve seen with my eyes. I think his biggest problem is mental, pressing type mistakes. And hopefully one’s that will be improved with repetition and practice. You could even compare to Reyes, in that Reyes has never been a great instinctual/smart player, but he’s learned and worked hard to know what he should do and when.

Murphy was (basically) a rookie, forced to learn two positions (sometimes at the same time) in the majors, bounced around in two platoons as well as all over the lineup. Those 12 home runs become 15 projected to a 155-160 games started, and it’d be silly not to expect him to improve.

If Wright hits 25, Beltran hits 25, Murphy hits 20, Reyes hits 7, Francouer/RF hits 10 or so, that’s 90+. Sign a solid 30HR type LF and suddenly the Mets aren’t exactly strapped for power.

]]> By: Rick J http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29706 Rick J Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:44:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29706 The Wilpons must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Wilpons must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Lisa P. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29704 Lisa P. Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:40:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29704 I agree with everthing you said. I know that you can't please everyone, but I saw plenty of positives during that YES interview and I can't wait for the post season to end and the hot stove season to begin. I agree with everthing you said. I know that you can’t please everyone, but I saw plenty of positives during that YES interview and I can’t wait for the post season to end and the hot stove season to begin.

]]> By: K Maxx http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/jeff-wilpon-takes-no-responsibility.html/comment-page-1#comment-29702 K Maxx Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:32:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14118#comment-29702 I got the same feeling regarding what Francesa was trying to do regarding Pagan and especially Murphy. If either of them were Yankees in their first full season, he wouldn't stop gloating about them, but because they are Mets he couldn't resist taking plenty of undeserved shots at them. I'm not saying either of them were great, but come on already! Is .265 - 12 - 66 really all that terrible for Murphy's first season? And Pagan showed some flashes of being an electrifying player. Murphy may end up being just a DH type in the end, but I bet Pagan would have some impressive numbers given a full season of at-bats. I got the same feeling regarding what Francesa was trying to do regarding Pagan and especially Murphy. If either of them were Yankees in their first full season, he wouldn’t stop gloating about them, but because they are Mets he couldn’t resist taking plenty of undeserved shots at them. I’m not saying either of them were great, but come on already! Is .265 – 12 – 66 really all that terrible for Murphy’s first season? And Pagan showed some flashes of being an electrifying player. Murphy may end up being just a DH type in the end, but I bet Pagan would have some impressive numbers given a full season of at-bats.

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