Comments on: Did Javier Vasquez Just Become Expendable?

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:53:21 +0000

I’D READ SOMEWHERE, THEY HAD CONSIDERED DEALING VASQUEZ; BUT DECIDED DEALING LOWE WAS THE BETTER OPTION WHICH CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE CONSIDERING LOWE’S DECLINING ACCOMPLISHMENTS LATE LAST SEASON, HIS AGE 37 NEXT SEASON, 3 YRS @ 45M STILL TO GO!
CONSIDER, OMAR WOULD’VE HAD TO OUTBID 4/60 TO HAVE INKED HIM AS MANY OF U CLAMORED FOR.
IS PEREZ 2/24 WORSE MONEY THAN LOWE’S 3/45+?
I TELL YOU, MILWALKEE’S GM STATED HIS MISSION IS THE ADDITION OF 2 ESTABLISHED SP,& A WILLINGNESS TO DEAL HIS TOP PROSPECT TO DO SO. OMAR SHOULD CHALLENGE HIM WITH WHAT 2 DO U WANT FOR PRINCE? WE KNOW THEY’D NEVER PICK JOHAN; IF THEY WERE INCLINED TO PAY THAT MUCH FOR THAT LONG THEY’D HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE ON CC. IF NOTHING ELSE, IT GETS CONVERSATION STARTED & HE COULD KEEP HIS PROSPECT. ASSUMING HE’D OPT FOR PETERSONITES PELFREY & MAINE AS (10 MIN OR LESS FIXES) INK BOTH LACKEY & MARQUIS TO TOP OFF THE ROTATION, THEN INK BENGIE. MAINE & PELF NOT GOOD ENOUGH? JUST BASED ON LAST YR, THEY’D AUTOMATICALLY BE #2 & #3 BEST AMONG THEIR EXISTING ROTATION! THROW IN MURPH IF NECESSARY! WE NEED AT LEAST 40 HR FROM SOMEWHERE & PRINCE & BENGIE’LL BE GOOD FOR 50+, U THEN CAN GO FOR CHARACTER OVER POWER IN LF. CONSIDERING THEIR BEST SP, LOOPER, FROM ‘09 HAS A TEAM OPTION(6M) HE’S PROJECTED TO DECLINE LEAVING THEM -1 INSTEAD OF +2 IN SPing! SINCE PRINCE IS @ 10.5M FOR ‘10 FACING ARBITRATION Vs BORAS TO PLAY ‘11, IT’S LIKELY ONLY A RENTAL 1Y ACQUISITION, PERFECT FOR DAVIS TO TAKE OVER. IT MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE NOT TO PURSUE VIGOROUSLY.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:39:54 +0000

Vasquez may be allergic to NY…how else to explain his bomb-out with the Yankees? i’d rather sign Lackey…he can do it, anywhere. Keep Ike Davis for the future, the kid’s got potential. Keep Mejia, Moviel, Holt…power arms. And Niese might be a very serviceable lefty to have in the rotation. It’d be a nightmare to see any of them blossom as an Atlanta Brave!

By: Jim B

Jim B — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:18:08 +0000

I would much rather see the mets use their trading chips for Prince Fielder….25 yrs old, has played over 155 games each of the past 4 seasons, tremendous power, is an average fielder ( better then Murph )

Use the trading chips on him, and bring in John lackey…you have a 2nd starter and an all star 1B who is still 2 yrs away from reaching his prime years

It is a long shot to get him, but would be worth the prospects to get him on the MEts

By: Jim B

Jim B — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:43:12 +0000

I would take vernon wells along with halladay, but the blue jays could find a better group of prospects in return elsewhere then with the Mets, and the mets already have a few bad contracts so it would be a risky move that would fill up a lot of our salary space. Vernon Wells has not been able to reach potential in Toronto, why would he be able to do it in the pressure cooker that is NY?

By: die hard 21

die hard 21 — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:29:23 +0000

i think vasquez will pee on him self he cant handle new york! hes awaste of time! i say if wilpon means what he says break the bank! sign lackey sign holliday !! phil umber and mike pelfrey need to go the hell with building in look at out track history jason bay was a met let him go scott kazmir a met traded him for i dont even want to say his name disgrace! we had jacobs were is he he had pop in his bat?? fre wilpon will have to spend not ridiculous but alot the yankeethey took the chance and look were they are at? after they said no spending for 2 years they did! the mets i love them but we cant make great major league prospects except wright reyes !! wells anint bad holliday too make that deal we need at least 2 great starters and a bat that aint scared of new york im ot going to sit a see a curve ball pass over beltran the phils win again rollins talking crap and the yankees being number one when we can play better and are better we have heart !!!

By: jdon

jdon — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:32:46 +0000

no I was talking about whitson, who came here, could not handle it, and peed on himself. the word on vazquez was that he could not handle NY when he was with the yanks.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:07:31 +0000

Vazquez makes no sense. He is at best a solid #3. The Mets need a true #2. They need to go after someone of the caliber of Lackey or Halladay. I would explore the possibility of acquiring Gonzalez foe 1B. If there is no chance at this, then I would make a strong play for Halladay, as long as he would agree to negotiate an extension. If not, I would make a big push for Lackey unless someone of equal caliber becomes available via trade. If the Mets have the money to spend as they claim, I would go the free agent route to hold on to whatever prospects they have for further development or bargaining chips. However, if Halladay or Gonzalez are available, I would make any prospect available to trade. We are too infatuated with “potential.” In 40 years of watching the Mets, I can count on 1 hand the number of true stars they have developed in their farm system. I will be surprised if more than 1 of our “prized prospects” turn into anything more than average major league players. Right now we have Wright and Reyes. Who was the last 1? Doc? Before him? Seaver? Take the known quantity any day over potential.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:54:39 +0000

Scoll down to the bottom, i listed some bad contracts from mlbtaderumors.com, might be able to come up with some problem for problem deals as well. Some interesting names there.

By: steve

steve — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:45:08 +0000

Exactly Anthony thats what i was getting at.I think the Jays need out from the Wells contract.They also want something serviceable from Losing Halladay.Bowman is from Canada Jays need a shortstop.Plus they would get a Starting pitcher and a potential closer.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:22:27 +0000

Got a bad contract on your hands? Maybe you can swap it for another team’s problem. I’ll list the bad contracts, you connect the dots.

•Vernon Wells, Blue Jays – five years, $98.5MM
•Alfonso Soriano, Cubs – five years, $90MM
•Barry Zito, Giants – four years, $83MM
•Alex Rios, White Sox – five years, $59.7MM
•Travis Hafner, Indians – three years, $40.25MM
•Aaron Rowand, Giants – three years, $36MM
•Carlos Guillen, Tigers – two years, $26MM
•Carlos Silva, Mariners – two years, $25MM
•Francisco Cordero, Reds – two years, $25MM
•Oliver Perez, Mets – two years, $24MM
•Gary Matthews Jr., Angels – two years, $23MM
•Milton Bradley, Cubs – two years, $21MM
•Juan Pierre, Dodgers – two years, $18.5MM
•Jeff Suppan, Brewers – one year, $14.5MM
•David Ortiz, Red Sox – one year, $12.5MM
•Jeremy Bonderman, Tigers – one year, $12.5MM
•Jose Guillen, Royals – one year, $12MM
•Eric Chavez, Athletics – one year, $12MM
•Dontrelle Willis, Tigers – one year, $12MM
•Eric Byrnes, Diamondbacks – one year, $11MM
•Fausto Carmona, Indians – two years, $11MM
•Scott Linebrink, White Sox – two years, $10.5MM
•Nate Robertson, Tigers – one year, $10MM
•Edgar Renteria, Giants – one year, $9.5MM
•Pat Burrell, Rays – one year, $9MM
•Kei Igawa, Yankees – two years $8MM
•Jeff Francis, Rockies – one year, $5.75MM
•Kyle Farnsworth, Royals – one year, $5MM
•Willy Taveras, Reds – one year, $4MM
•Aaron Miles, Cubs – one year, $2.7MM
•Honorable mentions: Michael Young (4/64, some deferred), Carlos Lee (3/55.5), Derek Lowe (3/45), Todd Helton (2/40.3), Kyle Lohse (3/32.625), Magglio Ordonez (1/18, possible vesting option), Mike Lowell (1/12), Chris Snyder (2/11.25), Cristian Guzman (1/8), Jamie Moyer (1/7.5), Kaz Matsui (1/5)