Comments on: A Hot Stove Full Of Rumors, Hints and Allegations http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations Fri, 25 May 2012 16:07:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Shamsky http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31226 Shamsky Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:08:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31226 Well written. The good news is that MetsBlog is reporting that Mark McGwire exercised his option and will stay with the Dodgers. Could you imagine another three months of "Kiss my fanny, we want Manny"? Well written. The good news is that MetsBlog is reporting that Mark McGwire exercised his option and will stay with the Dodgers. Could you imagine another three months of “Kiss my fanny, we want Manny”?

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31206 Joe D Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:48:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31206 Thanks for those stats MEST62FAN. I can't believe how low the payrolls were only 20 years ago. In World Cup Soccer, there are no set divisions in the league. Each year the divisions are based on the prior seasons final standings so that the best teams compete against the best, with the weaker teams competing against their counterparts in intraleague play. At the end the lower tiered teams is ensured of having 3 teams in the post season against the top 3 team in the top division. Maybe something like that with a few changes can ultimately be the solution to competitive baseball for all 30 teams and balance in the post season between the rich and the poor. Thanks for those stats MEST62FAN. I can’t believe how low the payrolls were only 20 years ago.

In World Cup Soccer, there are no set divisions in the league. Each year the divisions are based on the prior seasons final standings so that the best teams compete against the best, with the weaker teams competing against their counterparts in intraleague play. At the end the lower tiered teams is ensured of having 3 teams in the post season against the top 3 team in the top division.

Maybe something like that with a few changes can ultimately be the solution to competitive baseball for all 30 teams and balance in the post season between the rich and the poor.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31201 METS62FAN Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:29:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31201 JOE, BY ELIMINATING THE BOTTOM 10 FROM THE '09 PAYROLL HIERARCHY YOU'D LOSE 2 POSTSEASON TEAMS, ROCKS & TWINKIES; BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT KC STAYS WITH THEIR 20th RANKED 76,021,243 PAYROLL @ #20 SO DOES TEXAS' 76,239,840 @ #19. THE NON W/C PLAYOFF TEAMS & THEIR PAYROLL & (RANKING) ARE: NYY 206,811,689 (#1) PHL 127,957,380 (#5) BOS 122,624,689 (#6) LAA 116,709,000 (#7) LAD 109,176,603 (#8) OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN PAYROLL & CONTENDING AS THE OBVIOUS MISSING TOP TENERS ARE NYM(139.1),CHC(137,9),HOU(105.0),SEA(99.3). THE DISPARITY BETWEEN PERENIAL #1 NYY & WHICH EVER TEAM IS #10 OVER THE PAST 5 YRS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DIFFERENCE IN EXCESS OF #10's PAYROLL. IN 4 OF THE PAST 5 YRS THE NYM HAVE BEEN AMONGST THE TOP 3. 2006 WAS SUPRISINGLY THE LONE EXCEPTION. IF U WISH FURTHER HISTORICAL DETAILS I RECOMMEND THIS SITE: http://content.usatoday.com/SPORTS/BASEBALL/SALARIES/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2009 INTERESTING NOTE IS THE OLDEST YEAR RECORDED THERE IS 1988 WHEN THE LIST IS STILL TOPPED BY THE NYY @ 18,909,152 TOTAL PAYROLL, WHEN NYM WERE POSITIONED #4 @ 15,502,714 THE GOOD OLD DAYS!!! ONLY 21 YRS AGO! BTW PRETTY CONSISTANTLY LIKE IN BOTH '88 & '09 THE METS HAVE HAD THE #1 POSITION IN THE NL JOE, BY ELIMINATING THE BOTTOM 10 FROM THE ’09 PAYROLL HIERARCHY YOU’D LOSE 2 POSTSEASON TEAMS, ROCKS & TWINKIES; BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT KC STAYS WITH THEIR 20th RANKED 76,021,243 PAYROLL @ #20 SO DOES TEXAS’ 76,239,840 @ #19. THE NON W/C PLAYOFF TEAMS & THEIR PAYROLL & (RANKING) ARE:
NYY 206,811,689 (#1)
PHL 127,957,380 (#5)
BOS 122,624,689 (#6)
LAA 116,709,000 (#7)
LAD 109,176,603 (#8)
OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN PAYROLL & CONTENDING AS THE OBVIOUS MISSING TOP TENERS ARE NYM(139.1),CHC(137,9),HOU(105.0),SEA(99.3).
THE DISPARITY BETWEEN PERENIAL #1 NYY & WHICH EVER TEAM IS #10 OVER THE PAST 5 YRS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DIFFERENCE IN EXCESS OF #10′s PAYROLL. IN 4 OF THE PAST 5 YRS THE NYM HAVE BEEN AMONGST THE TOP 3. 2006 WAS SUPRISINGLY THE LONE EXCEPTION. IF U WISH FURTHER HISTORICAL DETAILS I RECOMMEND THIS SITE:
http://content.usatoday.com/SPORTS/BASEBALL/SALARIES/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2009
INTERESTING NOTE IS THE OLDEST YEAR RECORDED THERE IS 1988 WHEN THE LIST IS STILL TOPPED BY THE NYY @ 18,909,152 TOTAL PAYROLL, WHEN NYM WERE POSITIONED #4 @ 15,502,714 THE GOOD OLD DAYS!!! ONLY 21 YRS AGO! BTW PRETTY CONSISTANTLY LIKE IN BOTH ’88 & ’09 THE METS HAVE HAD THE #1 POSITION IN THE NL

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31200 Joe D Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:22:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31200 Thats not such a bad idea mask. I'll see what I can do. Thats not such a bad idea mask. I’ll see what I can do.

]]> By: andy http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31198 andy Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:21:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31198 great post!!! honestly, unless peter gammons or tim k. report it, i wont really read it. these guys are legit and always seem to have great sources. i must say, its always fun reading the random stories that this team will get this or that but it just makes u think about different scenarios. but let me just say that i love what you guys do here on this site. its always a good time reading these posts no matter what the topic is and you guys show great commitment to this team, while covering all the stories, real or false. great post!!! honestly, unless peter gammons or tim k. report it, i wont really read it. these guys are legit and always seem to have great sources. i must say, its always fun reading the random stories that this team will get this or that but it just makes u think about different scenarios.

but let me just say that i love what you guys do here on this site. its always a good time reading these posts no matter what the topic is and you guys show great commitment to this team, while covering all the stories, real or false.

]]> By: Ace http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31196 Ace Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:53:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31196 Good point. I am curious (and always have been) how teams like the Pirates, Royals, etc. still continue to operate. Are those 10 or so teams your reffering to actually turning any kind of profit? Some sort of realignment has been a long time coming. As far as the rumor mill goes, it does get exhausting IMO. All of the "possibilities" and "what if's" is really endless, and at the end of the day it's all just guessing until we see what management actually DOES do this offseason. Does anyone else worry Omar & Co. will foul it up somehow? Good point. I am curious (and always have been) how teams like the Pirates, Royals, etc. still continue to operate. Are those 10 or so teams your reffering to actually turning any kind of profit? Some sort of realignment has been a long time coming.

As far as the rumor mill goes, it does get exhausting IMO. All of the “possibilities” and “what if’s” is really endless, and at the end of the day it’s all just guessing until we see what management actually DOES do this offseason. Does anyone else worry Omar & Co. will foul it up somehow?

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31190 theonlymaskman Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:34:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31190 Good article Joe. Here's an idea for you. How about starting a data base of rumor mongers? Track the various rumors and see which work out and which do not. Then perhaps we can learn where to put our credence. That way we can learn to believe those with a good track record and ignore the others. Good article Joe. Here’s an idea for you. How about starting a data base of rumor mongers? Track the various rumors and see which work out and which do not. Then perhaps we can learn where to put our credence. That way we can learn to believe those with a good track record and ignore the others.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31188 Joe D Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:29:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31188 Then why not create a league where just the Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Angels, Red Sox, and Yankees, (relevant teams only) competed. Or why not realign the divisions by financial resources instead of geography? As it stands now, it's not much of a competition for about 10 of the 30 teams. Or get rid of the bottom ten, and make the season shorter and lose the wild card. Then why not create a league where just the Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Angels, Red Sox, and Yankees, (relevant teams only) competed. Or why not realign the divisions by financial resources instead of geography? As it stands now, it’s not much of a competition for about 10 of the 30 teams. Or get rid of the bottom ten, and make the season shorter and lose the wild card.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31185 theonlymaskman Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:21:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31185 Tommy, you stated: "I wish the Pirates, Reds, Royals, A’s & Co. were more relevant year-to-year." I'll go one step furhter and apply your wish to the Mets. I don't give a rat's a-s about the Pirates, Reds, Royals, A's & Co. I'd rather like to see the Mets more relevant! Tommy, you stated: “I wish the Pirates, Reds, Royals, A’s & Co. were more relevant year-to-year.” I’ll go one step furhter and apply your wish to the Mets. I don’t give a rat’s a-s about the Pirates, Reds, Royals, A’s & Co. I’d rather like to see the Mets more relevant!

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31182 Joe D Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:18:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31182 Thanks Tommy. The great divide between the haves and have nots has changed everything. Once proud franchises like the Pirates, Reds and Royals may never ever win a World Series again. The Pirates havent had a winning season since the civil war. Thanks Tommy. The great divide between the haves and have nots has changed everything. Once proud franchises like the Pirates, Reds and Royals may never ever win a World Series again. The Pirates havent had a winning season since the civil war.

]]> By: Tommy2cat http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31162 Tommy2cat Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:09:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31162 Joe D - Very entertaining post - you are a true voice of reason, which is one of numerous reasons why I like this site so much. Baseball reporting is a breeding ground for false rumors. Football reporting, by contrast, tends to be slow, methodical and accurate. Its a bit off-topic, but I read a great article on Eli Manning today in Newsday where the writer analyzed the fact that his pre-snap audibles, more than any injury to his foot, are disrupting the offense's rhythm. I think Coughlin commented on it, too. I was screaming about the same thing during the game (Eli, just stfu and run the play!). I wish baseball had a salary cap. I wish the Pirates, Reds, Royals, A's & Co. were more relevant year-to-year. The offseason has really turned into a whorehouse market, where greed abounds, idiots like Omar get fleeced and genuises like Billy Beane gets their hands tied behind their backs. Baseball transactions sound like activity on Wall Street, where people with little knowledge or true love of the game dip their hands into the till and drive prices beyond the common man's reach. So, your assessment of the off-season rumor mill is spot-on. I simply wish that more teams could participate in the process of restructuring their rosters to maintain a competitive balance. Joe D -

Very entertaining post – you are a true voice of reason, which is one of numerous reasons why I like this site so much.

Baseball reporting is a breeding ground for false rumors. Football reporting, by contrast, tends to be slow, methodical and accurate. Its a bit off-topic, but I read a great article on Eli Manning today in Newsday where the writer analyzed the fact that his pre-snap audibles, more than any injury to his foot, are disrupting the offense’s rhythm. I think Coughlin commented on it, too. I was screaming about the same thing during the game (Eli, just stfu and run the play!).

I wish baseball had a salary cap. I wish the Pirates, Reds, Royals, A’s & Co. were more relevant year-to-year. The offseason has really turned into a whorehouse market, where greed abounds, idiots like Omar get fleeced and genuises like Billy Beane gets their hands tied behind their backs. Baseball transactions sound like activity on Wall Street, where people with little knowledge or true love of the game dip their hands into the till and drive prices beyond the common man’s reach.

So, your assessment of the off-season rumor mill is spot-on. I simply wish that more teams could participate in the process of restructuring their rosters to maintain a competitive balance.

]]> By: the nick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31149 the nick Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:24:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31149 Kay, I totally agree with you and partly with jason. I just dont blame Twitter as the problem. If more Mets fans would just take Joe's advice and not overreact everytime they read something on mlbtr we could have better debates. Kay, I totally agree with you and partly with jason. I just dont blame Twitter as the problem. If more Mets fans would just take Joe’s advice and not overreact everytime they read something on mlbtr we could have better debates.

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31147 Kay Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:19:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31147 What I find more annoying are the faithful that take these rumors as gospel and go NUTS when they "hear" something contrary of what they heard from the Wilpons and/or Omar. What I find more annoying are the faithful that take these rumors as gospel and go NUTS when they “hear” something contrary of what they heard from the Wilpons and/or Omar.

]]> By: the nick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31143 the nick Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:49:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31143 You could always block the ones that annoy you on Twitter. It's actually a great resource for Mets news and I just followed this story from Twitter. You could always block the ones that annoy you on Twitter. It’s actually a great resource for Mets news and I just followed this story from Twitter.

]]> By: Jason http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/a-hot-stove-full-of-rumors-hints-and-allegations.html#comment-31141 Jason Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:41:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=15010#comment-31141 Spot on dude. I cant stand reading half the crap thats out there. Especially annoying to me are the full length blogs based on one sentence someone twittered. It's ridiculous how much junk comes from twitter regarding the Mets. I gave up with it. Spot on dude. I cant stand reading half the crap thats out there. Especially annoying to me are the full length blogs based on one sentence someone twittered. It’s ridiculous how much junk comes from twitter regarding the Mets. I gave up with it.

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