Comments on: A Catcher The Mets Should Sign And One They Should Avoid Like The Plague http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:16:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30736 METS62FAN Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:10:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30736 JAMES, HER'S YOUR SHOPPING LIST WHO'S YR CHOICE? POTENTIAL FREE AGENTS: Catchers Rod Barajas TOR (B) Josh Bard BOS Michael Barrett TOR Henry Blanco SD Ramon Castro CWS Ramon Hernandez * CIN (B) Jason Kendall MIL (B) Jason LaRue STL Victor Martinez * BOS (A) Chad Moeller BAL Benji Molina SF (A) Jose Molina NYY Miguel Olivo * KC (B) Mike Redmond MIN Ivan Rodriguez TEX (B) Brian Schneider NYM Yorvit Torrealba * COL (B) Jason Varitek * BOS (B) Gregg Zaun * TB PLEASE DON'T PICK MARTINEZ SINCE I VALUE YOUR INTELLIGENCE ENOUGH TO FIGURE U KNOW HE'LL NEVER SEE THE MKT. JAMES, HER’S YOUR SHOPPING LIST WHO’S YR CHOICE?
POTENTIAL FREE AGENTS:
Catchers
Rod Barajas TOR (B)
Josh Bard BOS
Michael Barrett TOR
Henry Blanco SD
Ramon Castro CWS
Ramon Hernandez * CIN (B)
Jason Kendall MIL (B)
Jason LaRue STL
Victor Martinez * BOS (A)
Chad Moeller BAL
Benji Molina SF (A)
Jose Molina NYY
Miguel Olivo * KC (B)
Mike Redmond MIN
Ivan Rodriguez TEX (B)
Brian Schneider NYM
Yorvit Torrealba * COL (B)
Jason Varitek * BOS (B)
Gregg Zaun * TB
PLEASE DON’T PICK MARTINEZ SINCE I VALUE YOUR INTELLIGENCE ENOUGH TO FIGURE U KNOW HE’LL NEVER SEE THE MKT.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30719 METS62FAN Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:42:52 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30719 KAY, I TOTALLY AGREE VARITEK IS AKIN TO POISON IVY; BUT QUESTION YOUR REQUEST FOR YOUNGER, CONSIDER THE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR F/ANCY I SUGGEST U PERUSE THE FOLLOWING LIST OF POTENTIAL F/A & CHOOSE YOUR PREFERRED TARGET: Catchers Rod Barajas TOR (B) Josh Bard BOS Michael Barrett TOR Henry Blanco SD Ramon Castro CWS Ramon Hernandez * CIN (B) Jason Kendall MIL (B) Jason LaRue STL Victor Martinez * BOS (A) Chad Moeller BAL Benji Molina SF (A) Jose Molina NYY Miguel Olivo * KC (B) Mike Redmond MIN Ivan Rodriguez TEX (B) Brian Schneider NYM Yorvit Torrealba * COL (B) Jason Varitek * BOS (B) Gregg Zaun * TB WHILE, I'M CERTAIN U CHOSE ALL OF OUR NO.1 PICKS IN MARTINEZ, THE SMART MONEY SAYS HE NEVER GETS CLOSE TO THE MKT. BTW, MY TOP CHOICE WOULD BE BENGIE MOLINA & HIS CAREER .260+ BA & 15+HR PROMISE TO USE HIS SAVY & YOUNG STUD PITCHER EXPERIENCE TO HONE OUR STAFF AS A COMPLIMENT TO WARTHEN, AS A BONUS, HE SPEAKS OLLIE'S LANGUAGE ELIMINATING TRANSLATIONAL DIFFICULTIES. PERHAPS MAKING OLLIE THIS YR'S CASTILLO IN EARNING HIS PAYCHECK. KAY, I TOTALLY AGREE VARITEK IS AKIN TO POISON IVY; BUT QUESTION YOUR REQUEST FOR YOUNGER, CONSIDER THE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR F/ANCY I SUGGEST U PERUSE THE FOLLOWING LIST OF POTENTIAL F/A & CHOOSE YOUR PREFERRED TARGET:
Catchers
Rod Barajas TOR (B)
Josh Bard BOS
Michael Barrett TOR
Henry Blanco SD
Ramon Castro CWS
Ramon Hernandez * CIN (B)
Jason Kendall MIL (B)
Jason LaRue STL
Victor Martinez * BOS (A)
Chad Moeller BAL
Benji Molina SF (A)
Jose Molina NYY
Miguel Olivo * KC (B)
Mike Redmond MIN
Ivan Rodriguez TEX (B)
Brian Schneider NYM
Yorvit Torrealba * COL (B)
Jason Varitek * BOS (B)
Gregg Zaun * TB
WHILE, I’M CERTAIN U CHOSE ALL OF OUR NO.1 PICKS IN MARTINEZ, THE SMART MONEY SAYS HE NEVER GETS CLOSE TO THE MKT.
BTW, MY TOP CHOICE WOULD BE BENGIE MOLINA & HIS CAREER .260+ BA & 15+HR PROMISE TO USE HIS SAVY & YOUNG STUD PITCHER EXPERIENCE TO HONE OUR STAFF AS A COMPLIMENT TO WARTHEN, AS A BONUS, HE SPEAKS OLLIE’S LANGUAGE ELIMINATING TRANSLATIONAL DIFFICULTIES. PERHAPS MAKING OLLIE THIS YR’S CASTILLO IN EARNING HIS PAYCHECK.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30695 t agee Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:19:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30695 good explanation. That makes me feel better. good explanation. That makes me feel better.

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30684 Kay Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:32:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30684 Ok - he is the worst at throwing out runners, blame whomever you want. pitchers, 2nd baseman, the organist, the hotdog vendor - we do not need an over the hill catcher, I don't care how good he called games, it would be a huge waste at this point. We need YOUNGER, BETTER players, not another. 209 hitter taking up a roster spot. Ok – he is the worst at throwing out runners, blame whomever you want. pitchers, 2nd baseman, the organist, the hotdog vendor – we do not need an over the hill catcher, I don’t care how good he called games, it would be a huge waste at this point. We need YOUNGER, BETTER players, not another. 209 hitter taking up a roster spot.

]]> By: KV http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30680 KV Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:23:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30680 The worst defensive catcher? I hope you have some facts to back that claim up! He has one passed ball and three total errors the entire season!! If you are basing your claim solely on base stealers, you may want to blame the pitchers as well - especially Penny! The Sox do not hold runners on as a team. To say he is the worst defensive catcher is not only ridiculous but completely inaccurate! The worst defensive catcher? I hope you have some facts to back that claim up! He has one passed ball and three total errors the entire season!! If you are basing your claim solely on base stealers, you may want to blame the pitchers as well – especially Penny! The Sox do not hold runners on as a team. To say he is the worst defensive catcher is not only ridiculous but completely inaccurate!

]]> By: James K. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30675 James K. Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:09:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30675 Ew, Molina. Please no, not for more than $2-3 million and a 1 year deal. Ew, Molina. Please no, not for more than $2-3 million and a 1 year deal.

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30673 Kay Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:49:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30673 A 38 year old catcher that has the WORST record of throwing out runners in all of MLB and hit .209 is JUST what this team needs, sure, good idea.........why is it fans SCREAM when Omar signs on older player and yet in the same breath want a washed up catcher that is done, but a fork in him, its over......... A 38 year old catcher that has the WORST record of throwing out runners in all of MLB and hit .209 is JUST what this team needs, sure, good idea………why is it fans SCREAM when Omar signs on older player and yet in the same breath want a washed up catcher that is done, but a fork in him, its over………

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30672 Kay Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:46:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30672 I think its funny that any fan would want their club to invest in an over the hill catcher, yes a catcher of all positions. He is 38 years old - which is VERY old for a catcher, he can't hit, he is the worst defensive catcher in MLB - he's done as a player, a coach someday somewhere, probably, but NOT A PLAYER..............The Red Sox lost because they forgot to hit the ball............ I think its funny that any fan would want their club to invest in an over the hill catcher, yes a catcher of all positions. He is 38 years old – which is VERY old for a catcher, he can’t hit, he is the worst defensive catcher in MLB – he’s done as a player, a coach someday somewhere, probably, but NOT A PLAYER…………..The Red Sox lost because they forgot to hit the ball…………

]]> By: KV http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30669 KV Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:22:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30669 I think it's funny how Mets fans are so down on Jason Varitek. Maybe if you'd had him helping your pitching staff....think about it: the Red Sox replaced him with a better hitting catcher...how far did that get them in the post-season? They got swept in the first round. I think it’s funny how Mets fans are so down on Jason Varitek. Maybe if you’d had him helping your pitching staff….think about it: the Red Sox replaced him with a better hitting catcher…how far did that get them in the post-season? They got swept in the first round.

]]> By: Steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30668 Steve Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:13:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30668 Yeah, Varitek is "horrible". You people act like the Red Sox never won a damn game without Martinez behind the plate! He was there for a little over two months - who was back there before he got there? Varitek! You might want to check the stats and see the difference in the pitching when Varitek caught as opposed to Martinez. Yeah, Varitek is “horrible”. You people act like the Red Sox never won a damn game without Martinez behind the plate! He was there for a little over two months – who was back there before he got there? Varitek! You might want to check the stats and see the difference in the pitching when Varitek caught as opposed to Martinez.

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30654 Kay Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:23:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30654 I am SO happy to read the part of this article that reads "The one catcher that I don’t even want to hear about this off season is Jason Varitek"........I don't have an answer on who they should sign but I do know its NOT JV. I am SO happy to read the part of this article that reads “The one catcher that I don’t even want to hear about this off season is Jason Varitek”……..I don’t have an answer on who they should sign but I do know its NOT JV.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30653 METS62FAN Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:18:04 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30653 STEVE, WERE U ASLEEP IN '05? BELTRAN IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE #4 UNLESS U WANT YOUR CLEANUP GUY DROPPING DOWN BUNTS. HE'S BARELY CONFY IN #3, PREFERS #2. THE NYM'S BIGGEST HOLE IS CLEANUP HITTER & THERE'S ONLY 1 POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE SOLUTION OUT THERE...FIELDER! UNLESS DELGADO IS DEEMED CAPABLE OF RETURNING TO FORM & BATSPEED. NOT ONE OF THE LF OR C SOLUTIONS I'VE READ OR DREAMED ABOUT ARE CLEANUP TYPES. FOR GOOD OR BAD OMAR BEGAN DESIGNING THIS LINEUP IN '05 AROUND DELGADO @ #4, THUS THE '05 MEDIOCRITY & HOW MANY TIMES WE WERE AT BAT LATE NEEDING A #4 BOPPER. STEVE, WERE U ASLEEP IN ’05? BELTRAN IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE #4 UNLESS U WANT YOUR CLEANUP GUY DROPPING DOWN BUNTS. HE’S BARELY CONFY IN #3, PREFERS #2. THE NYM’S BIGGEST HOLE IS CLEANUP HITTER & THERE’S ONLY 1 POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE SOLUTION OUT THERE…FIELDER!
UNLESS DELGADO IS DEEMED CAPABLE OF RETURNING TO FORM & BATSPEED.

NOT ONE OF THE LF OR C SOLUTIONS I’VE READ OR DREAMED ABOUT ARE CLEANUP TYPES. FOR GOOD OR BAD OMAR BEGAN DESIGNING THIS LINEUP IN ’05 AROUND DELGADO @ #4, THUS THE ’05 MEDIOCRITY & HOW MANY TIMES WE WERE AT BAT LATE NEEDING A #4 BOPPER.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30652 METS62FAN Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:05:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30652 LOOKING AT OUR TEAM'S LEFTOVERS & HOLES; I DON'T BELIEVE BB/OBP IS THE MAJOR CONSIDERATION. BENGIE'S 20HR POTENTIAL WILL CERTAINLY COMPLIMENT WHOMEVER ELSE WE ADD. WHILE, I'M NOT A SABRE FAN, BB IS ONLY A CRUCIAL INGREDIENT FOR ME AT THE TOP OF ANY ORDER OR WHEN THERE'S POWER OR EVEN PITCHER BEHIND IT. I'D CERTAINLY NOT DISCOUNT THE NEED FOR A TAKE-CHARGE OFFENSIVE & DEFENSIVE CATCHING SOLUTION BASED ON BB. TO ME THAT'S KICKING MISS AMERICA OUT OF BED FOR FARTING. LOOKING AT OUR TEAM’S LEFTOVERS & HOLES; I DON’T BELIEVE BB/OBP IS THE MAJOR CONSIDERATION. BENGIE’S 20HR POTENTIAL WILL CERTAINLY COMPLIMENT WHOMEVER ELSE WE ADD. WHILE, I’M NOT A SABRE FAN, BB IS ONLY A CRUCIAL INGREDIENT FOR ME AT THE TOP OF ANY ORDER OR WHEN THERE’S POWER OR EVEN PITCHER BEHIND IT. I’D CERTAINLY NOT DISCOUNT THE NEED FOR A TAKE-CHARGE OFFENSIVE & DEFENSIVE CATCHING SOLUTION BASED ON BB. TO ME THAT’S KICKING MISS AMERICA OUT OF BED FOR FARTING.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30650 steve Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:46:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30650 I realize Molina has similar stats to Barajas.But Barajas is my pick.I also think Figgins and Derosa would be good pickups. Reyes Figgins(lf) Wright Beltran Francour Murphy/Derosa Barajas Castillo It will also give us a strong bench with lots of flexibility. Pagan,Santos,Ahern,Evans I realize Molina has similar stats to Barajas.But Barajas is my pick.I also think Figgins and Derosa would be good pickups.
Reyes
Figgins(lf)
Wright
Beltran
Francour
Murphy/Derosa
Barajas
Castillo
It will also give us a strong bench with lots of flexibility.
Pagan,Santos,Ahern,Evans

]]> By: Matt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30647 Matt Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:43:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30647 The Mets finished among the 15 worst records in the majors. That means they cannot lose their first-round draft pick no matter which players they sign. And that is important because the Mets are looking at a top eight pick next June. If the Mets sign a Type-A free agent then they would lose a second-round pick as long as the team losing the player offers the player arbitration. Players such as Bobby Abreu, Jason Bay, Matt Holliday and John Lackey are Type-A free agents. But since they have one of those 15 worse records, the Mets would not lose any draft picks if they signed Type-B free agents. At this moment, Chone Figgins is teetering between the two classifications, but potential pitching targets such as Jon Garland and Joel Pineiro are clearly Type-Bs as are Adam LaRoche, Marlon Byrd and Rod Barajas. And it is possible that a team such as St. Louis might decide not to offer arbitration to a Type-A such as Mark De Rosa. The main point, however, is that the Mets cannot lose that top 10 overall selection and if they decide to augment the roster with complementary players by going less expensive and accentuating depth they would not lose any draft picks. The Mets finished among the 15 worst records in the majors. That means they cannot lose their first-round draft pick no matter which players they sign. And that is important because the Mets are looking at a top eight pick next June.

If the Mets sign a Type-A free agent then they would lose a second-round pick as long as the team losing the player offers the player arbitration. Players such as Bobby Abreu, Jason Bay, Matt Holliday and John Lackey are Type-A free agents.

But since they have one of those 15 worse records, the Mets would not lose any draft picks if they signed Type-B free agents. At this moment, Chone Figgins is teetering between the two classifications, but potential pitching targets such as Jon Garland and Joel Pineiro are clearly Type-Bs as are Adam LaRoche, Marlon Byrd and Rod Barajas. And it is possible that a team such as St. Louis might decide not to offer arbitration to a Type-A such as Mark De Rosa.

The main point, however, is that the Mets cannot lose that top 10 overall selection and if they decide to augment the roster with complementary players by going less expensive and accentuating depth they would not lose any draft picks.

]]> By: Ceetar http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30646 Ceetar Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:32:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30646 He's a career minor leaguer that got a chance due to injuries, and Manuel not liking Castro. It's likely that 2009 was his career year. If we were to get a guy like Molina, I guess it'd be okay, but I wouldn't want a lesser guy where Manuel would overplay a platoon and use Santos a lot. Backup catcher isn't overly important, but he just doesn't feel like a good player. He’s a career minor leaguer that got a chance due to injuries, and Manuel not liking Castro. It’s likely that 2009 was his career year. If we were to get a guy like Molina, I guess it’d be okay, but I wouldn’t want a lesser guy where Manuel would overplay a platoon and use Santos a lot. Backup catcher isn’t overly important, but he just doesn’t feel like a good player.

]]> By: Mike http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30645 Mike Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:29:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30645 That's what happens when you play a backup C every day. They look worse than they are in spot work. Maybe you're right - I stopped watching toward end of August, but he seemed like an average backup C. That’s what happens when you play a backup C every day. They look worse than they are in spot work. Maybe you’re right – I stopped watching toward end of August, but he seemed like an average backup C.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30644 t agee Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:23:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30644 Love Benji, Varitek shouldn't even be considered let alone talked about. Give up 2 top picks. No way. This is how we got into this mess to begin with. By now we should have had a rh hitting catcher ready to step in to platoon with thole for years to come when he is fully developed. I'm not saying that we would draft the right guys, put them in the right position or develop the properly but to just keep giving away our best picks year after year gives us no chance to ever have a complete team. Love Benji, Varitek shouldn’t even be considered let alone talked about. Give up 2 top picks. No way. This is how we got into this mess to begin with. By now we should have had a rh hitting catcher ready to step in to platoon with thole for years to come when he is fully developed. I’m not saying that we would draft the right guys, put them in the right position or develop the properly but to just keep giving away our best picks year after year gives us no chance to ever have a complete team.

]]> By: Ceetar http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30642 Ceetar Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:17:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30642 His defense is pathetic, he can't hit, he can't run.. Outside of a couple of big hits and maybe a hot week or two..he's got no redeeming factors. His defense is pathetic, he can’t hit, he can’t run..

Outside of a couple of big hits and maybe a hot week or two..he’s got no redeeming factors.

]]> By: Mike http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/10/1-catcher-the-mets-should-sign-and-one-they-should-avoid-like-the-plague.html#comment-30641 Mike Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:11:32 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=14702#comment-30641 Santos looks to be at least a decent backup C. So if Thole looks to be a starter, what's the problem? Santos looks to be at least a decent backup C. So if Thole looks to be a starter, what’s the problem?

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