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2009
The New York Mets All-Time 9
On 9/9/09, Major League Baseball announced a fan poll contest, called the All-Time 9. What that means is that fans can go to official website of their favorite teams and vote for the best single seasons at a position in team history, with the goal of putting together an all-time lineup.
After a quick jaunt to the Mets page, I found quite a nice list of memorable single season stats, some positions deeper than others. The second thing that I noticed is that an individual player can only have one nomination. For example, Mike Piazza’s 2000 season was nominated as one of the finalists for Met catcher, but one can make the argument that his 1999 season was better, you’ll see what I mean if you check out the website. Today we’ll take a look at the field.
First Base:
| Avg. | HR | RBI | R | SB | ||
| Don Clendenon | 1970 | .288 | 22 | 97 | 65 | 4 |
| Carlos Delgado | 2008 | .271 | 38 | 115 | 96 | 1 |
| Keith Hernandez | 1986 | .310 | 13 | 83 | 94 | 2 |
| Eddie Murray | 1993 | .285 | 27 | 100 | 77 | 2 |
| John Olerud | 1998 | .354 | 22 | 93 | 91 | 2 |
These seasons were the best statistical seasons that these players had in their Met tenures, as well as better than any other seasons put up by Met first-basemen. The highest HR total is Delgado’s 38 in 06 and 08, though he finished with better numbers in 08. I have a bit of hesitation voting for Delgado after watching him struggle badly in the first half of 08, before Willie was fired. John Olerud had the highest batting avg. by far. Keith has the 2nd highest batting avg., but is beaten in every counting stat. BTW. Stolen bases are kind of irrelevant for 1B, so I’m not looking at it.
My verdict: Delgado’s HR, RBI, and Runs are the best on this list, even though his Avg. is the lowest and his 1st half was miserable.
Second Base:
| Avg. | HR | RBI | R | SB | ||
| Edgardo Alfonso | 1999 | .304 | 27 | 108 | 123 | 9 |
| Wally Bachman | 1986 | .320 | 1 | 27 | 67 | 13 |
| Luis Castillo | 2009 | .310 | 1 | 36 | 74 | 15 |
| Ron Hunt | 1964 | .303 | 6 | 42 | 59 | 6 |
| Gregg Jeffries | 1990 | .283 | 15 | 68 | 96 | 11 |
| Jeff Kent | 1993 | .270 | 21 | 80 | 65 | 4 |
Edgardo Alfonso has the edge here in HR’s, RBI, and R. Castillo’s not-yet-completed season leads the field in SB’s. Wally Bachman leads Avg by 10 points over Castillo. Alfonso is simply strong in every category while leading three of them.
My verdict: Edgardo Alfonso.
Third Base:
| Avg. | HR | RBI | R | SB | ||
| Howard Johnson | 1989 | .287 | 36 | 101 | 104 | 41 |
| Ray Knight | 1986 | .298 | 11 | 76 | 51 | 2 |
| Len Randle | 1977 | .304 | 5 | 27 | 78 | 33 |
| Robin Ventura | 1999 | .301 | 32 | 120 | 88 | 1 |
| David Wright | 2007 | .325 | 30 | 107 | 113 | 34 |
Since players can only have one of their seasons nominated, Wright’s 2007 and HoJo’s 1989 got in. I mention this because Wright’s 06 and 08, as well as HoJo’s 91 are better than Knight and Randle. Ventura had the most RBI’s on this list, but Wright and HoJo lead everything else. Wright and HoJo are the only 30-30 seasons here, but HoJo leads HR by 6 and SB by 7, while Wright has a 38 point advantage in avg. while leading RBI by 6 and Runs by 9. Wright also had the better OBP and OPS, while HoJo had the better SLG. Sidenote: HoJo’s 104 Runs in 1989 led the National League.
My Verdict: This was a fairly tough decision, but I’m giving it to Wright. Feel free to argue this one.
Shortstop:
| Avg. | HR | RBI | R | SB | ||
| Kaz Matsui | 2004 | .272 | 7 | 44 | 65 | 14 |
| Jose Reyes | 2006 | .300 | 19 | 81 | 122 | 64 |
| Frank Tavares | 1979 | .263 | 1 | 33 | 89 | 42 |
There isn’t much choice here. No Met SS has had any season to compare to Reyes’s 06. Jose’s 05, 07, and 08 are better than anything put together by Kaz-Mat, Tavares, Ordonez, Santana, or Harrelson (among players who manned SS for years) as well. Though Reyes had 78 SB’s in 07, 06 was his best all-around year to date.
My Verdict: Jose Reyes by a mile.
Catcher:
| Avg. | HR | RBI | R | SB | ||
| Gary Carter | 1985 | .281 | 32 | 100 | 83 | 1 |
| Todd Hundley | 1996 | .259 | 41 | 112 | 85 | 1 |
| Paul Lo Duca | 2006 | .318 | 5 | 49 | 80 | 3 |
| Mike Piazza | 2000 | .324 | 38 | 113 | 90 | 4 |
| John Stearns | 1978 | .264 | 15 | 73 | 65 | 25 |
Here is where I have my first real issue with a snub. Any way you look at, this list comes down to Piazza and Hundley, but Piazza’s 1999 was better than his 2000. As it stands right now, Piazza would beat Hundley in every category except HR, and Piazza takes a huge 65 point advantage in Avg. Now compare Piazza’s 2000 to his 1999 totals of .303/40/124/100/2. Piazza’s 1999 edges 2000 in everything relevant except Avg.
My Verdict: Mike Piazza, though I believe his 1999 was better.
Outfield (Pick 3):
| Avg. | HR | RBI | R | SB | ||
| Tommy Agee | 1969 | .271 | 26 | 76 | 97 | 12 |
| Carlos Beltran | 2006 | .275 | 41 | 116 | 127 | 18 |
| Bobby Bonilla | 1993 | .265 | 34 | 87 | 81 | 3 |
| Roger Cedeno | 1999 | .313 | 4 | 36 | 90 | 66 |
| Lenny Dykstra | 1986 | .295 | 8 | 45 | 77 | 31 |
| Cliff Floyd | 2005 | .273 | 34 | 98 | 85 | 12 |
| Bernard Gilkey | 1996 | .317 | 30 | 117 | 108 | 17 |
| Ricky Henderson | 1999 | .315 | 12 | 42 | 89 | 37 |
| Lance Johnson | 1996 | .333 | 9 | 69 | 117 | 50 |
| Cleon Jones | 1969 | .340 | 12 | 75 | 92 | 16 |
| Dave Kingman | 1976 | .238 | 37 | 86 | 70 | 7 |
| Lee Mazilli | 1979 | .303 | 15 | 79 | 78 | 34 |
| Kevin McReynolds | 1988 | .288 | 27 | 90 | 82 | 21 |
| Rusty Staub | 1975 | .282 | 19 | 105 | 93 | 2 |
| Darryl Strawberry | 1987 | .284 | 39 | 104 | 108 | 36 |
| Frank Thomas | 1962 | .266 | 34 | 94 | 69 | 2 |
Okay, so let’s make sense of this. Carlos Beltran has the most HR’s edging out Darryl Strawberry by 2. Cleon Jones has the highest Avg. by 7 points over Lance Johnson. Bernard Gilkey has 1 more RBI than Carlos Beltran. Gilkey, Beltran, Strawberry, and Staub are the only ones with 100+ RBI. Carlos Beltran has 10 more Runs than Lance Johnson. Beltran, Johnson, Gilkey, and Strawberry are the only ones with 100+ Runs. Roger Cedeno’s 66 SB’s beat Johnson by 16; Cedeno, Johnson, Henderson, Dykstra, and Strawberry are the only ones with 30+ SB’s. Strawberry and Beltran have the two greatest all-around performances. Next pick depends on what categories you consider important and break it down from there. Cedeno’s 66 steals are a big number, but he doesn’t have the strength in other categories, though his R and Avg. are nice. Lance Johnson is 2nd in Avg., Runs, and SB. Bernard Gilkey is strong all-around, though he doesn’t lead any categories.
My Verdict: Carlos Beltran, Darryl Strawberry, and Bernard Gilkey. To take that a step further, Beltran’s 2006 was the best season by any Met outfielder.
All in All: 1B Carlos Delgado 2008; 2B Edguardo Alfonso 1999; 3B David Wright 2007; SS Jose Reyes 2006; C Mike Piazza 2000; OF’ers Carlos Beltran 2006, Darryl Strawberry 1987, and Bernard Gilkey 1996.
Final Thoughts: I tried to focus only one position at a time when making judgments, and it appears that I picked a lot recent players, including players from the last four seasons. In fact, I didn’t realize it at the time, but all of my picks were in the last 22 years.
You can find the list of choices here. Now, the point with any list like these is to get you to think and to compare across the years and argue about it. Questions or disagreements, let me know.
Till Next Time
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2B = 1999 Edgardo Alfonso
P = 1971 Tom Seaver or 1985 Dwight Gooden(I’ll take Gooden)
I did not realize they were using offense for the “pitcher” as well but I would rather look at who had the greatest season “pitching” wise.
I didn’t cover the best hitting pitcher because I thought it would just be splitting hairs. Kind of like drafting kicker in fantasy football.
I agree with most of the picks given, but for 1B I prefer Olerud over Delgado.
What kind of an idiot decided to create a ridiculous poll for the fans to pick an All Time Nine? If you want to name an all time Mets team, base it on more than one season’s stats. No disrespect to Todd Hundley’s 41 homer season but any catcher other than Gary Carter to be considered along with Mike Piazza is a joke. The best first baseman to wear our uniform is R.J.’s broadcast partner…the Mex, hands down! In fact despite Carlos Delgado’s positive days with the Mets, even John Olerude was a better all around player for us. One last criticism….and again no disrespect to the names you have listed. Felix Millan was as good a second baseman as any other player mentioned and should have been mentioned as a second to Edgardo Alfonso!
I got this list from Mets.com, The link is at the bottom of the article.
The object of the poll was to find the best single-seasons among each position.
The stats you chose to use here are pretty awful. No OBP, SLG, wOBA etc.
C: Piazza, 1B: Olerud, 2B: Alfonzo, 3B: Howard Wright, SS: Reyes, LF: Jones, CF: Beltran, RF: Strawberry, P: Isringhausen (pitchers don’t hit though so this is stupid. Write-in vote for Gooden, 1985)