Comments on: Jeff Francoeur Is A Keeper

By: Bill W

Bill W — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:49:10 +0000

Martin is correct of course — over 162 games, there aren’t many hitters worse than Francoeur. Keep your “grit,” I like OBP. I’m sure you guys want Murphy and Santos as regulars next year too, so there’ll be 3 guys who can’t get on base in the lineup.

By: Colonel_Kurtz

Colonel_Kurtz — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:39:55 +0000

Indeed! I was going to post “Lots of epiclulz here” but thought that would just add fuel to the fire. Well, you said it and I agree.

130 comments all about Franceour. I absolutely love this.

By: RC

RC — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:52:53 +0000

I guess I should have read further but from what people were saying yesterday, I couldn’t tell.

By: RC

RC — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:50:32 +0000

I can’t tell if these replies are supposed to be sarcastic or just idiotic.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:12:12 +0000

MATT, DON’T BUG; JUST REALIZE YOU AREN’T CONTRIBUTING DIRECTLY TO ANY OVERSPENDING. WITH ALL YOUR STATS BELIEFS, I’M SUPRISED U DIDN’T REALIZE ABOUT 20 YRS AGO USA TODAY, I THINK, FEATURED A PIECE SHOWING THEN THAT MLB PAYROLLS HAD RISEN TOO HIGH TO BE COVERED BY ATTENDANCE “GATE” INCOME; IT WAS ALL IN THE LICENSING & TV REVENUES. I DOUBT YOUR FEARS ARE JUSTIFIED, I’D ANTICIPATE THE 3 YR TOTAL VALUE AT LESS THAN 10M CERTAINLY MODELED AFTER THOSE INKED BY REYES & WRIGHT. THIS IS THE NYM AFTERALL.

By: J_Rod_

J_Rod_ — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:18:07 +0000

Hope to see you back, Frenchy. Thanks for being a gamer.

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:35:27 +0000

Dude you should see me on my 2007 blackberry blatantly ignoring what I have to do at work, simply to wait 3 minutes for the page to load and scroll down through 110 comments to fight back. It’s seriously pathetic. I need help.

By: BrooklynsOwn

BrooklynsOwn — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:33:30 +0000

So many lulz in here

By: JE

JE — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:28:19 +0000

You’d better get your sarcasm meter checked, Matt! That took you way too long!

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:09:58 +0000

Haha I gotcha now

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:59:39 +0000

What are those graphs? This is baseball, not algebra. Idiot.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:58:48 +0000

Nah, man…. you gotta be a “baseball man.” You had to have played the game and know what it’s like . Fans can’t just tell who is good at baseball… only old “baseball men.”

But at least the fans are better than those morons who use advanced statistical analysis using large sample sizes of data to determine who the best players are. Baseball isn’t about numbers… it’s about grit and heart and passion.

In summary: tons of data to determine the most efficient way to field a baseball team < gut feeling and looking good in a uniform. What do you think this is, a business?

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:54:38 +0000

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/9/21/1046049/jeff-francoeur-lives-in-the-now

sums it up perfectly

i’ve stated many times in these comments statistics that show he’s improved many areas of his game this year. the problem is, 95% of the time those stats regress. we’ll see next year.

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:52:17 +0000

Right, I’ll ignore facts and solely trust my eyes. Why don’t they just let any old fan be a scout?

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:39:17 +0000

Who do you think you are man? Using stats to prove some guy is bad at baseball? I went to Citi Field to watch actually watch him play and Jeff Francoeur is the hardest working player I have ever seen, with grission rivaling the great David Eckstein.

Francoeur came up as a great prospect and is still 25 years old! Give him a break. Just look at how great he looks in a uniform (ignore the retarded looking face). He has to be a great baseball player. And don’t you see how well he throws the ball?

Quit reading the backs of baseball cards.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:34:55 +0000

Haha, I know. I just rambled on way too long to say that lineup wouldn’t be “last-place” bad and would be much better than this year’s team (barring any more injuries). However, I apologize for randomly attacking you, as you made a rare good point for these message boards.

I actually would not be surprised if the Mets came out with that lineup next season given the current management of this team. This would be a travesty, as barring a serious upgrade of the pitching staff, this team could not compete as a ~.500 team.

Yes, Castillo has had a good season offensively, and I would probably say second behind Wright (Francoeur has been solid as a Met despite the horrible plate discipline, but with his ATL numbers his season is still bad). However, given his injury history and declining defensive skills, I would try to unload him this offseason because his value will never be higher again. If they can’t get adequate value in return, I would fully support bringing him back again.

Daniel Murphy is a below average hitter and should not be playing first base, a position where decent hitting is easy to find.

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:34:16 +0000

Just saying that Pagan is comparable, actually better, when it comes to producing outs.

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:33:15 +0000

I don’t think he’d be offered that much in arbitration. I understand the philosophy, I’m just getting too anxious wondering what the deal is going to entail. If it’s 3 years upwards of 18-20 mil, I’m going to bug out.

By: BrooklynsOwn

BrooklynsOwn — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:35:43 +0000

If this is true then I got to wait and see the terms of the contract before I can make my own judgement. I hope the Mets don’t over value Francoeur, he’s a solid player but don’t pay him like he’s a real good player.

By: Lifelongmetsfan

Lifelongmetsfan — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:52:01 +0000

My God Chris I wrote that sarcastically to demonstrate that if Met fans keep the same ole same ole we are doomed to another losing season. And you actually think the Mets will play that lineup? And you think it’s ok?!
Alright lets walk through a bit of this… Castillo is the most productive offensive player this year. Would you agree? Castillo’s numbers will improve nest year if Reyes hits in front of him and Wright behind him. There is no way in hell the Mets are playing Daniel Murphy at 1st base nest year and of course he is not going to hit clean up. And no I don’t have a good answer as to why the Mets c.. I’m sorry I can’t continue this lineup is laughable to even consider…