Comments on: Will Maine He Be A Met In 2010? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:16:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27839 theonlymaskman Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:21:39 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27839 Maine has plenty of desire and he is a very hard worker. What isn't known is whether there is any capability left in his arm. Maine has plenty of desire and he is a very hard worker. What isn’t known is whether there is any capability left in his arm.

]]> By: mary http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27834 mary Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:27:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27834 I for one would not be that eager to see him back, he goes not seem to have the energy or fire to want to pitch at this level. Sure he has potential but you get the feeling that he just won't live up to it consitenly. But, having said that I would much rather find a replacement for Ollie and a 5th starter in the off-season, so I guess we can put up with Maine for another year. I for one would not be that eager to see him back, he goes not seem to have the energy or fire to want to pitch at this level. Sure he has potential but you get the feeling that he just won’t live up to it consitenly. But, having said that I would much rather find a replacement for Ollie and a 5th starter in the off-season, so I guess we can put up with Maine for another year.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27799 theonlymaskman Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:17:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27799 I think you're too optimistic. Jason Bay will prove to be too pricey for the Mets. I think you’re too optimistic. Jason Bay will prove to be too pricey for the Mets.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27798 steve Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:46:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27798 tomkittie i love your idea of signing Lackey.if they cant trading for Halladay.That with signing Bay is good enough for off season.As long as everyone is healthy.But i also believe Maine is best suited for the Mets to be the next setup guy.Then he wont have to worry about his secondary pitches.You never know they might have to package parnell in a trade for Halladay. tomkittie i love your idea of signing Lackey.if they cant trading for Halladay.That with signing Bay is good enough for off season.As long as everyone is healthy.But i also believe Maine is best suited for the Mets to be the next setup guy.Then he wont have to worry about his secondary pitches.You never know they might have to package parnell in a trade for Halladay.

]]> By: tlagee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27795 tlagee Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:57:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27795 Tommy2Cat - nice wish list but you can remove a few of those names from your list. Putz' option will not be taken by the Mets. The Mets are not going to spend a lot of money this off season. My prediction is that the biggest free agent signing of the off season will be Jason Bay. After that, the Wipon well will have run dry. It's sad and I hope I'm wrong but you read it here first. Tommy2Cat – nice wish list but you can remove a few of those names from your list. Putz’ option will not be taken by the Mets. The Mets are not going to spend a lot of money this off season. My prediction is that the biggest free agent signing of the off season will be Jason Bay. After that, the Wipon well will have run dry.
It’s sad and I hope I’m wrong but you read it here first.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27790 theonlymaskman Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:42:08 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27790 Correct, it was not a trade. It was a pure and simple salary dump. On top of that Omar was not even capable of pulling it off in a way to get value in return. He went one on one with Theo. No wonder the result! The only party to make out on this was the Wilpon's who saved $3.5mil. Of course, the Sox and Wags came out pretty well also. How'd we do as Mets fans?... fuhget it! Correct, it was not a trade. It was a pure and simple salary dump. On top of that Omar was not even capable of pulling it off in a way to get value in return. He went one on one with Theo. No wonder the result! The only party to make out on this was the Wilpon’s who saved $3.5mil. Of course, the Sox and Wags came out pretty well also. How’d we do as Mets fans?… fuhget it!

]]> By: Luis Venitucci http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27789 Luis Venitucci Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:25:30 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27789 The Wagner dump is inexcusable on any level. If he was not able to pitch well anymore, you decline the option and buy him out(wanna bet Omar will bring about 5 over the hill players into spring training that will cost more than the buyout?). If he CAN pitch, and all indications are that he can, then if the MEts are good next year he could be a huge part of a potentially great bullpen(wait, have we heard that before?, if we suck, then he is a great trade piece for another contender and we could certainly get more than a 26 year old minor ;eague journeyman and some 20 yr old hitting .212. This is a dump that makes NO sense. OMAR must go! The Wagner dump is inexcusable on any level. If he was not able to pitch well anymore, you decline the option and buy him out(wanna bet Omar will bring about 5 over the hill players into spring training that will cost more than the buyout?). If he CAN pitch, and all indications are that he can, then if the MEts are good next year he could be a huge part of a potentially great bullpen(wait, have we heard that before?, if we suck, then he is a great trade piece for another contender and we could certainly get more than a 26 year old minor ;eague journeyman and some 20 yr old hitting .212. This is a dump that makes NO sense. OMAR must go!

]]> By: Luis Venitucci http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27788 Luis Venitucci Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:20:56 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27788 Because to do otherwise would have indicated an ability to be proactive and actually be marginally creative. Once the Mets do that once, we will expect them to do that all the time, so they simply choose every opportunity to be stupid. Omar must go! Because to do otherwise would have indicated an ability to be proactive and actually be marginally creative. Once the Mets do that once, we will expect them to do that all the time, so they simply choose every opportunity to be stupid. Omar must go!

]]> By: Tommy2cat http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27783 Tommy2cat Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:26:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27783 In fact, if I'm the GM and Jeff Wilpon tells me I have to slash budget and consider trading Wagner, I'd tell him, "No. Deal with it. Jeff, either you want to win games, or get b!tch-slapped by Adam Rubin for another year. Your choice, bro." In fact, if I’m the GM and Jeff Wilpon tells me I have to slash budget and consider trading Wagner, I’d tell him, “No. Deal with it. Jeff, either you want to win games, or get b!tch-slapped by Adam Rubin for another year. Your choice, bro.”

]]> By: Tommy2cat http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27782 Tommy2cat Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:23:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27782 Assuming Maine regains full strength, he must develop an off-speed pitch in order to put hitters away. Perhaps a change-up or a sinking/slider. The beauty of a sinker is that a hitter will follow it until its too late to lay-off, and just pound it into the ground. You can change speeds on that pitch, which would complement his fastball that he elevates in the strike zone. Currently, a healthy John Maine rates as a 4th starter on a very good staff. If he masters his off-speed stuff, you could be very good for years to come. Most of all, I like his quiet, competitive streak. I'm kind of excited to see how the rotation rounds out next year. I'd be thrilled with... Santana Halladay/Lackey Pelfrey Niese/Misch/Parnell Maine/Nieve/Redding/Figgy/Ollie And a bullpen of... Righty: K-Rod, Putz, Stokes, ChadBrad, Parnell, Nieve, Redding, Figgy Lefty: Feliciano, Bostick, Niese That's 8 pitchers to choose from for the last 2 rotation slots and 11 pitchers to select from for relief duty. I consider Omar's trading Wagner to be another critical mistake as he would have been our nuke from the left side. Just a very stupid trade. Assuming Maine regains full strength, he must develop an off-speed pitch in order to put hitters away. Perhaps a change-up or a sinking/slider. The beauty of a sinker is that a hitter will follow it until its too late to lay-off, and just pound it into the ground. You can change speeds on that pitch, which would complement his fastball that he elevates in the strike zone.

Currently, a healthy John Maine rates as a 4th starter on a very good staff. If he masters his off-speed stuff, you could be very good for years to come. Most of all, I like his quiet, competitive streak.

I’m kind of excited to see how the rotation rounds out next year. I’d be thrilled with…

Santana
Halladay/Lackey
Pelfrey
Niese/Misch/Parnell
Maine/Nieve/Redding/Figgy/Ollie

And a bullpen of…

Righty: K-Rod, Putz, Stokes, ChadBrad, Parnell, Nieve, Redding, Figgy

Lefty: Feliciano, Bostick, Niese

That’s 8 pitchers to choose from for the last 2 rotation slots and 11 pitchers to select from for relief duty.

I consider Omar’s trading Wagner to be another critical mistake as he would have been our nuke from the left side. Just a very stupid trade.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27777 jdon Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:34:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27777 What has John Maine EVER done to be considered a Number 3? Maybe on a last place team, but he throws to any pitches, cannot put guys away, and does not go long into games. Even when healthy. He pitched above his head for one season. Remember: the Orioles gaveup on him. He is no better than a Number 5 on a team with any kind of chance and that is a maybe. Of course, we may not be that kind of team for some time. But looking at the glass half full, I say non-tender him. What has John Maine EVER done to be considered a Number 3? Maybe on a last place team, but he throws to any pitches, cannot put guys away, and does not go long into games. Even when healthy. He pitched above his head for one season. Remember: the Orioles gaveup on him. He is no better than a Number 5 on a team with any kind of chance and that is a maybe. Of course, we may not be that kind of team for some time. But looking at the glass half full, I say non-tender him.

]]> By: Shamsky http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27775 Shamsky Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:28:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27775 I'm with you Joe, and I think Maine should be a decent number three pitcher if he's healthy. Honestly, I'm more worried about Pelfrey, Niese, Figueroa, and Perez. I feel as though we need to trade one or two of these pitchers and get a consistent number three/four starter and sign John Lackey in the off season. I don't see the four pitchers I mentioned as anything more than a solid number five pitcher and that includes the wildly inconsistent and erratic Pelfrey. I’m with you Joe, and I think Maine should be a decent number three pitcher if he’s healthy. Honestly, I’m more worried about Pelfrey, Niese, Figueroa, and Perez. I feel as though we need to trade one or two of these pitchers and get a consistent number three/four starter and sign John Lackey in the off season. I don’t see the four pitchers I mentioned as anything more than a solid number five pitcher and that includes the wildly inconsistent and erratic Pelfrey.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27769 theonlymaskman Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:50:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27769 To me, the obvious question is why did the Mets wait until July 29 to send him to see Andrews? They were just merrily going along doing the wrong thing and allowing him to actually delay his return. They never considered that just perhaps what he actually needed was real rest! Looks like Maine's injury was mismanaged as well. If Maine thinks he didn't have a "tired shoulder", then what did he actually have? Looks like the Mets are hiding the true condition. Big surprise there. Hopefully this works works out well, but we can't discount the possibility of a setback. So keep your fingers crossed. To me, the obvious question is why did the Mets wait until July 29 to send him to see Andrews? They were just merrily going along doing the wrong thing and allowing him to actually delay his return. They never considered that just perhaps what he actually needed was real rest! Looks like Maine’s injury was mismanaged as well.

If Maine thinks he didn’t have a “tired shoulder”, then what did he actually have? Looks like the Mets are hiding the true condition. Big surprise there.

Hopefully this works works out well, but we can’t discount the possibility of a setback. So keep your fingers crossed.

]]> By: Sach C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27768 Sach C. Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:47:27 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27768 I never understood the talk of non-tendering him. He's had productive seasons and good games. And considering the problems we had with depth this year, and every year, we need good pitchers. I understand that he's had injuries in the last 2 yrs., but it's not like he's aged 15 yrs. overnight. He's not that expensive, and he's still got good years left. I never understood the talk of non-tendering him. He’s had productive seasons and good games. And considering the problems we had with depth this year, and every year, we need good pitchers. I understand that he’s had injuries in the last 2 yrs., but it’s not like he’s aged 15 yrs. overnight. He’s not that expensive, and he’s still got good years left.

]]> By: Phil Hoops http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/maine-to-start-against-phillies-will-he-be-a-met-in-2010.html#comment-27761 Phil Hoops Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:49:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=12811#comment-27761 I can't see the Mets not bringing back Maine, for better or for worse. He's young and at his price, there's nothing better available in the upcoming free agent class. The only way Maine won't be a Met next year is if he can't stay healthy for the last few weeks of the season. I can’t see the Mets not bringing back Maine, for better or for worse. He’s young and at his price, there’s nothing better available in the upcoming free agent class. The only way Maine won’t be a Met next year is if he can’t stay healthy for the last few weeks of the season.

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