Comments on: Jeff Francoeur Speaks, But Will Omar Listen? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:06:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28832 theonlymaskman Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:02:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28832 Why don't we just move Francoeur into the GM's office right now? Since Mr Manyana doesn't know squat, anyone with a pea brain can do better. It's really funny that Manyana thought he could get by with mediocre pitchere because the Citi pitcher's park would cure all. Even if that would work in Citi (which it doesn't), you still have to play half your gmes elsewhere. Just what was he thinking. Give the job to Francouer or almsot anyone else who wants it. Sorry... forgot to say great post - can't wait to read your next one! Why don’t we just move Francoeur into the GM’s office right now? Since Mr Manyana doesn’t know squat, anyone with a pea brain can do better. It’s really funny that Manyana thought he could get by with mediocre pitchere because the Citi pitcher’s park would cure all. Even if that would work in Citi (which it doesn’t), you still have to play half your gmes elsewhere. Just what was he thinking. Give the job to Francouer or almsot anyone else who wants it.
Sorry… forgot to say great post – can’t wait to read your next one!

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28822 theonlymaskman Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:00:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28822 Why don't we just move Francoeur into the GM's office right now? Since Mr Manyana doesn't know squat, anyone with a pea brain can do better. It's really funny that Manyana thought he could get by with mediocre pitchere because the Citi pitcher's park would cure all. Even if that would work in Citi (which it doesn't), you still have to play half your gmes elsewhere. Just what was he thinking. Give the job to Francouer or almsot anyone else who wants it. Why don’t we just move Francoeur into the GM’s office right now? Since Mr Manyana doesn’t know squat, anyone with a pea brain can do better. It’s really funny that Manyana thought he could get by with mediocre pitchere because the Citi pitcher’s park would cure all. Even if that would work in Citi (which it doesn’t), you still have to play half your gmes elsewhere. Just what was he thinking. Give the job to Francouer or almsot anyone else who wants it.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28815 jdon Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:55:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28815 Maine is completely unreliable and Perez is beyond that. I am not crazy about Marquis but he seems to have improved with age. And he is a better hitter than Wilson Valdez, Anderson Hernandez and Brian Schneider right now. I just don't think we are getting any FAs of note--the Won'tpons do not want to throw around a ton of money and that is what brings them in. Players say they want to play for a winner, which the Mets will not be, but they want cash. The Mets have nothing to offer in either case. Maine is completely unreliable and Perez is beyond that. I am not crazy about Marquis but he seems to have improved with age. And he is a better hitter than Wilson Valdez, Anderson Hernandez and Brian Schneider right now. I just don’t think we are getting any FAs of note–the Won’tpons do not want to throw around a ton of money and that is what brings them in. Players say they want to play for a winner, which the Mets will not be, but they want cash. The Mets have nothing to offer in either case.

]]> By: martin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28806 martin Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:23:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28806 when omar starts listening to advice from jeff franceoeur, who may have the poorest understanding of baseball of anyone in the major leagues, then omar should be fired immediately. when omar starts listening to advice from jeff franceoeur, who may have the poorest understanding of baseball of anyone in the major leagues, then omar should be fired immediately.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28802 steve Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:29:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28802 If the Mets were to sign Marquis.They could still trade for Halladay,even giving up Pelfrey if the Jays wanted him.Remember the Jays came to the Mets?How about Parnell,Flores,Holt,Evans? Halladay wants out of Toronto,and having him in the National league he would rake.Especially in Citifield. If the Mets were to sign Marquis.They could still trade for Halladay,even giving up Pelfrey if the Jays wanted him.Remember the Jays came to the Mets?How about Parnell,Flores,Holt,Evans? Halladay wants out of Toronto,and having him in the National league he would rake.Especially in Citifield.

]]> By: Jim B http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28800 Jim B Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:42:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28800 You will never get any quality front of the top 3 of the rotation pitcher for 5mil. You will never get any quality front of the top 3 of the rotation pitcher for 5mil.

]]> By: Matt F. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28798 Matt F. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:37:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28798 5mm per that is 5mm per that is

]]> By: Jim B http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28797 Jim B Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:37:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28797 I think the addition of Marquis and John Lackey would give the Mets a great rotation, one that can get them into the playoffs. I would also try and trade both Perez and John Maine if possible, and also grab randy wolf Santana Lackey Marquis Wolf Pelfrey That would be my goal for this offseason, maybe even before getting a bat is making sure the mets have the best pitching staff in the NL east. I think the addition of Marquis and John Lackey would give the Mets a great rotation, one that can get them into the playoffs. I would also try and trade both Perez and John Maine if possible, and also grab randy wolf

Santana
Lackey
Marquis
Wolf
Pelfrey

That would be my goal for this offseason, maybe even before getting a bat is making sure the mets have the best pitching staff in the NL east.

]]> By: Matt F. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28796 Matt F. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:37:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28796 Well he made 9.875 mil in 2009, didn't he? I would barely give him 2yr/10mm. Well he made 9.875 mil in 2009, didn’t he?

I would barely give him 2yr/10mm.

]]> By: ag http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28795 ag Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:28:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28795 Sure, get Marquis just as long as he's not expensive Sure, get Marquis
just as long as he’s not expensive

]]> By: Alex in CT http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28794 Alex in CT Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:18:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28794 WHAT!?!?! Seriously, are you CRAZY? If Delgado wants to sign a one year deal with incentives for 5 mil fine, but no way he gets a 3 year deal. WHAT!?!?! Seriously, are you CRAZY? If Delgado wants to sign a one year deal with incentives for 5 mil fine, but no way he gets a 3 year deal.

]]> By: Alex in CT http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28793 Alex in CT Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:16:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28793 Apparently we had enough at the trade deadline when the Blue Jays were willing to trade him to us for Wilmer Flores, Bobby Parnell and Jon Niese. Omar turned them down. You know why? MONEY! Apparently we had enough at the trade deadline when the Blue Jays were willing to trade him to us for Wilmer Flores, Bobby Parnell and Jon Niese. Omar turned them down. You know why? MONEY!

]]> By: ANDY http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28792 ANDY Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:55:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28792 that is very true, seems like he went out there and tried to do too much, too fast. maine is good but i would leave him in the third rotation slot. go after lackey and hopefully he wont be too expensive maybe this winter they will realize this isnt a recession we're going through, its a depression. these guys make too much... PERIOD!!!! that is very true, seems like he went out there and tried to do too much, too fast. maine is good but i would leave him in the third rotation slot. go after lackey and hopefully he wont be too expensive maybe this winter they will realize this isnt a recession we’re going through, its a depression. these guys make too much… PERIOD!!!!

]]> By: David(metsfan) http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28791 David(metsfan) Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:51:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28791 wtf are you smoking? Delgado for 15mil for 3 years??? Youre retarded. He'll be lucky to get a base salary of 4 mil with incentives, but not for more than one year. wtf are you smoking? Delgado for 15mil for 3 years??? Youre retarded. He’ll be lucky to get a base salary of 4 mil with incentives, but not for more than one year.

]]> By: Mykey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28790 Mykey Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:50:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28790 Enough with Halladay. As much as any Met fan would love to see him on the team, we don't have enough in our minors to get him. And even if we did have enough, we would probably be giving up at least 3 of our top 5 prospects to get him. So, forget about Halladay. Lackey would be nice, but I don't think they will get him either. marquis would be nice, but I doubt they will get him. Maybe they can go out and sign Randy Wolfe, or someone like that. Face it, this is a new age for the Mets. For the next 2-3 years, don't expect them to sign top name free agents. Or at least, not more then 1 per season. Enough with Halladay. As much as any Met fan would love to see him on the team, we don’t have enough in our minors to get him. And even if we did have enough, we would probably be giving up at least 3 of our top 5 prospects to get him. So, forget about Halladay. Lackey would be nice, but I don’t think they will get him either. marquis would be nice, but I doubt they will get him. Maybe they can go out and sign Randy Wolfe, or someone like that. Face it, this is a new age for the Mets. For the next 2-3 years, don’t expect them to sign top name free agents. Or at least, not more then 1 per season.

]]> By: Matt F. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28788 Matt F. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:55:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28788 Yeah I want nothing to do with Lackey. I think the other SP has to be acquired in a trade. We are all lost on what to do with Olly. He needs to subscribe to the Luis Castillo workout plan. He'll always get those ks with his stuff but his walks are ridiculous. Can Jerry loop tapes of his 230+k season in Pitt during spring training '10? Yeah I want nothing to do with Lackey.

I think the other SP has to be acquired in a trade.

We are all lost on what to do with Olly. He needs to subscribe to the Luis Castillo workout plan. He’ll always get those ks with his stuff but his walks are ridiculous. Can Jerry loop tapes of his 230+k season in Pitt during spring training ’10?

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28787 steve Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:53:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28787 I like your idea of adding Marquis,only at minimal cost however.I also would like Maine to go to the pen.That way he can let it all out for 1 inning at a time.I would prefer the Mets to trade for Halladay,,rather than over pay for Lackey.We might have to lose Parnell or Niese in a trade for Halladay,but he will be worth it. Santana-Halladay-Marquis-Pelfrey,as the top4.Then Redding Nieve Niese or Parnell,Stoner,Gee,for the 5th spot.WithPedro F-Maine-Stokes-Sean G-Bostick or Misch in the pen,with KRod. I like your idea of adding Marquis,only at minimal cost however.I also would like Maine to go to the pen.That way he can let it all out for 1 inning at a time.I would prefer the Mets to trade for Halladay,,rather than over pay for Lackey.We might have to lose Parnell or Niese in a trade for Halladay,but he will be worth it. Santana-Halladay-Marquis-Pelfrey,as the top4.Then Redding Nieve Niese or Parnell,Stoner,Gee,for the 5th spot.WithPedro F-Maine-Stokes-Sean G-Bostick or Misch in the pen,with KRod.

]]> By: Matt F. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28786 Matt F. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:43:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28786 Though I agree that Marquis would be a good fit as a backend starter for the Mets, I find it comical that Francoeur, a generally overrated RF, is lobbying for this year's most overrated SP. In all seriousness Marquis is a quality-enough backend starter, but by no means should he be slotted in as our #2 or #3. We still need another SP. Though I agree that Marquis would be a good fit as a backend starter for the Mets, I find it comical that Francoeur, a generally overrated RF, is lobbying for this year’s most overrated SP.

In all seriousness Marquis is a quality-enough backend starter, but by no means should he be slotted in as our #2 or #3. We still need another SP.

]]> By: Lifleongmetsfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28785 Lifleongmetsfan Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:52 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28785 Santana Lackey Perez Pelfrey Maine If Oliver Perez got a deal for what? 12 million a year? You have to figure Lackey is going to command at least 14-16 million a year even in this economy. If the Met owners have already stated that they are not going to increase the pay roll then where does the money come from? Resigning Delgado is going to cost 15million/3yr. Sadly I think we can not cpount on Lackey coming here. I would think the first priority to to sign 30 home run guy. So... Santana Perez Pelfrey Maine Niese Santana
Lackey
Perez
Pelfrey
Maine

If Oliver Perez got a deal for what? 12 million a year? You have to figure Lackey is going to command at least 14-16 million a year even in this economy. If the Met owners have already stated that they are not going to increase the pay roll then where does the money come from?
Resigning Delgado is going to cost 15million/3yr.
Sadly I think we can not cpount on Lackey coming here. I would think the first priority to to sign 30 home run guy.
So…
Santana
Perez
Pelfrey
Maine
Niese

]]> By: Alex in CT http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/jeff-francoeur-speaks-up-but-will-omar-listen.html#comment-28778 Alex in CT Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:28:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13520#comment-28778 Mid 4's is still an upgrade on a rotation with four pitchers in the mid 5's. Don't you think? We're not going to get another ace, all we can hope for is upgrading everywhere we can. If Marquis means no Livan, Misch, etc, than I'm all for it. Mid 4′s is still an upgrade on a rotation with four pitchers in the mid 5′s. Don’t you think? We’re not going to get another ace, all we can hope for is upgrading everywhere we can. If Marquis means no Livan, Misch, etc, than I’m all for it.

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